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2017-11-13 04:34:59 UTC

Yet, pure genius

2017-11-13 04:35:05 UTC

Yeah boi

2017-11-13 04:35:21 UTC

Itโ€™s like voting off to kill one of the Mafia members

2017-11-13 04:35:28 UTC

To avoid drawing suspicion to yourself

2017-11-13 04:35:34 UTC

You ever drank Bailey's from a shoe?

2017-11-13 04:35:44 UTC

Iโ€™m vegan sorry

2017-11-13 04:36:06 UTC

Watcha doin in me waters

2017-11-13 04:36:36 UTC

mangina

2017-11-13 04:36:54 UTC

My downstairs mixup!

2017-11-13 13:35:52 UTC

that statue looks dumb

2017-11-13 13:44:05 UTC

yup

2017-11-13 13:44:54 UTC

looks like a fucking alien

2017-11-13 13:45:14 UTC

this is the kind of art affirmative action hiring gets you

2017-11-13 13:49:51 UTC

It's so half assed

2017-11-13 13:50:09 UTC

But I bet this is the best the artist could do

2017-11-13 13:51:07 UTC

Black woman? for real?

2017-11-13 13:51:39 UTC

Of course

2017-11-13 13:51:52 UTC

it's laughably bad, man, I'm startin to like it

2017-11-13 13:52:01 UTC

it's so bad it's startin to get good

2017-11-13 13:53:05 UTC

some good memes in that thread

2017-11-13 14:04:12 UTC

@Thomas the Sowell Train [USA] get your memes out of here

2017-11-13 14:33:42 UTC

it was on topic tho

2017-11-13 14:34:36 UTC

*shakes fist*

2017-11-13 14:36:36 UTC

Well you're not gonna put up a white woman

2017-11-13 15:33:09 UTC

Holy receding hairline!

2017-11-13 20:36:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/379731194381729792/Screenshot_20171113-153220_01.jpg

2017-11-13 20:36:42 UTC

Imagine being the WaPo editor and letting this hot turd slide by onto the public website

2017-11-13 20:37:35 UTC

where has muh country gone

2017-11-13 20:41:26 UTC

Lets kill a corpse

2017-11-13 20:43:45 UTC

you might have something here

2017-11-13 21:04:12 UTC

the catholic church is so hilarious theyre like a bad 40k fanfic

2017-11-13 21:04:44 UTC

They are 1500 year old institution

2017-11-13 21:04:47 UTC

tbh i hate catholics

2017-11-13 21:05:01 UTC

yea and theyve always done dumb shit

2017-11-13 21:05:23 UTC

you can literally buy your way into heaven guys we swear :^)

2017-11-13 21:05:56 UTC

The whole reformation happened because of it

2017-11-13 21:06:09 UTC

and we all knew how well *that* went

2017-11-13 21:06:33 UTC

without a reformation there would be no US of A though

2017-11-13 21:06:38 UTC

and America is fucking awesome

2017-11-13 21:06:43 UTC

fuck yeah i fucking love America hell yes

2017-11-13 21:06:55 UTC

The treaty of westphalia wich I think is one of the most important document of the west

2017-11-13 21:08:37 UTC

what good have they accomplished though

2017-11-13 21:08:54 UTC

everything the church does is in spite of being the church not because of

2017-11-13 21:09:33 UTC

You just decribed humanity in general

2017-11-13 22:03:02 UTC

No god please don't let Radeon build a head of steam

2017-11-13 22:03:18 UTC

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

2017-11-13 22:03:27 UTC

religionfags btfo

2017-11-13 22:03:57 UTC

American protestants are the worst

2017-11-13 22:24:13 UTC

Let the cringe flow through you

2017-11-13 22:25:59 UTC

how about no

2017-11-14 03:52:05 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/379840892275523585/unknown.png

2017-11-14 03:52:56 UTC

high population zones actually

2017-11-14 03:55:40 UTC

why not both

2017-11-14 03:56:04 UTC

shhhhhh im pushing an agenda here damnit /s

2017-11-14 04:13:44 UTC

@radeon Martha Stewart fan confirmed

2017-11-14 04:13:58 UTC

she was pretty awesome

2017-11-14 04:14:15 UTC

i learned how to cook a dank turkey from her

2017-11-14 06:27:10 UTC

Hey dan check out some more demographic info, comparing economic growth in 2013 with red/blue states. Striking.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/379879918969815042/red_growth.png

2017-11-14 06:27:57 UTC

also wtf if you google image search for "nephilim" you get a bunch of shopped photos of people next to enormous bones

2017-11-14 06:28:00 UTC

what the heck yo

2017-11-14 06:44:32 UTC

How is West Virginia doin so well

2017-11-14 06:49:36 UTC

West Virginia is a shithole

2017-11-14 06:49:47 UTC

Let it be known

2017-11-14 06:59:57 UTC

It js

2017-11-14 07:00:05 UTC

The worst place I've ever been to

2017-11-14 07:01:01 UTC

I had to stay with someone who was genuinely in the lowest 1%

2017-11-14 07:03:56 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/379889172015742997/WP_20160918_10_23_38_Pro_1.jpg

2017-11-14 07:04:26 UTC

Absolute shitstain

2017-11-14 07:04:48 UTC

The town had like 12% employment rate, only thing around was a Walmart

2017-11-14 07:05:02 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/379889447745093632/WP_20160918_10_06_03_Pro_1.jpg

2017-11-14 07:05:28 UTC

The pumpkins were where they threw away one and it grew

2017-11-14 07:05:32 UTC

Still doesnโ€™t explain how itโ€™s dark green on the map

2017-11-14 07:05:59 UTC

No heat no ac fridge from the 60s

2017-11-14 07:06:07 UTC

Broken in windows

2017-11-14 07:06:30 UTC

One person worked part time of a 4 person home

2017-11-14 07:09:16 UTC

If there's really no other business around, yeah, I can see how nobody would work.

2017-11-14 07:09:30 UTC

It was a coal town, you know that story.

2017-11-14 07:09:43 UTC

Even if you open your own business, who's gonna have money to buy?

2017-11-14 07:09:59 UTC

Everyone's on welfare

2017-11-14 07:12:11 UTC

The local drug is prescription pills

2017-11-14 07:13:08 UTC

The only time I ever saw a swastika used unironically irl was one sprayed into a rock

2017-11-14 07:14:34 UTC

Rockstika

2017-11-14 07:14:38 UTC

Swastirock

2017-11-14 08:00:56 UTC

"percent change in economic growth"

2017-11-14 08:01:17 UTC

As in doing slightly less shitty than usual this year

2017-11-14 08:58:07 UTC

Well, if it's percentage based, then that'd explain why it could look so good. Reminds me of sports promotions that claim to be the 'fastest growing' sport. If only two people were watching, and that climbed to ten, that's a 400% increase in viewership.

Meanwhile, if your viewership increases from 30,000 to 50,000, that's less than a 70% increase

2017-11-14 08:58:27 UTC

(assuming I haven't fucked my maths up, but the point should still stand)

2017-11-14 22:12:41 UTC

Ben Shapiro is always killing it

2017-11-14 22:40:26 UTC

bahahaha:

2017-11-14 22:40:29 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/380124860090810379/1.png

2017-11-14 22:40:31 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/380124870845136900/2.png

2017-11-14 22:40:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/380124883469729792/3.png

2017-11-14 22:40:53 UTC

"X is a paid shill!"
"No, Y is a paid shill!"
"No, YOU'RE a paid shill!"

2017-11-14 22:40:55 UTC

basically

2017-11-14 22:41:51 UTC

I should watch more Alt-right content just for the internecine confllicts in the comments section

2017-11-14 22:43:58 UTC

"Lauren southern is a typical woman. She's riding the wave of populism while loving attention from the alt right beta orbiters. "

Alpha/Beta machismo comments

"Spencer is a false flag operation created by the left to discredit populists. He comes from a wealthy liberal family from a wealthy liberal town. Kessler's another Obama/Hillary jerk off that ran Occupy Wall St. "

More 'not a *true* member of our glorious group' comments

"Men who follow chicks or political reasons are G.A.Y. "

(doesn't-even-make-sense comments)

"(((Lauren Southern))๏ปฟ"
"i think you mean (((richard spencer)))๏ปฟ"

lol fuckin' wow

2017-11-14 22:44:41 UTC

"richard spencer is controlled opposition, he is causing infighting๏ปฟ"

2017-11-14 22:44:44 UTC

they have 0 power and are already self destroying

2017-11-14 22:45:04 UTC

and then, they want me to believe those same peopel can creat a liberal ethnostate

2017-11-14 22:45:07 UTC

"Lauren Southern wears the Mjolnir, she is 100% Nazi.๏ปฟ"

2017-11-15 00:30:26 UTC

eyyyy, found the post I made on the SSM a month back

2017-11-15 00:32:17 UTC
2017-11-15 00:34:14 UTC

Judging from the one response I got, maybe I should have. I thought I had reply notifications turned on, but I guess not. I don't really get a lot of what the person replying to me is saying anyway.

The number of times they basically quote me saying "the sky is blue" and reply with "incorrect; the sky is actually blue" is just.. mindboggling. But I guess it highlights how two people can look at the same thing through a different prism and get a totally different perspective on it

2017-11-15 00:39:31 UTC

Many of the arguments they posit against me seem to be the same arguments I'm using to argue with, too ๐Ÿคท

2017-11-15 00:40:00 UTC

Anyhoo, bed beckons.

2017-11-15 05:07:13 UTC

Why even bother with a Bearing subreddit, if he rarely posts a video?

2017-11-15 05:09:23 UTC

From what I understand, the controversy on the vote was that some politicians intended to misuse the response to pass some abusive legislation.

2017-11-15 13:48:19 UTC

the one sargon quotes?

2017-11-15 13:49:23 UTC

the actual survey that quotes one in five?

2017-11-15 13:49:30 UTC

gonna need some autism for this

2017-11-15 16:22:55 UTC

Fuckin brootuhl ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ

https://clarissasblog.com/2014/05/14/i-dont-want-to-hire-women/

2017-11-15 16:25:37 UTC

And yet at the end of the article she still denies that men and women are psychologically/physically different

2017-11-15 16:25:52 UTC

Boy, feminism runs deep.

2017-11-15 16:26:04 UTC

Deep vein thrombosis deep

2017-11-15 16:27:17 UTC

it is compartimentalized

2017-11-15 16:27:26 UTC

they double think so so much

2017-11-15 16:28:25 UTC

She literally just confirmed every wage gap debunk and still denies any difference. It's hysterical

2017-11-15 21:33:54 UTC

have you guys read Dabiq, the propaganda magazine of ISIS?

2017-11-15 21:35:19 UTC

No, why?

2017-11-15 21:35:25 UTC

"The death of a single Muslim, no matter his role in society, is more grave to the believer than the massacre of every kฤfir [disbeliever] on earth. And while the Sharฤซโ€™ah calls for the invasion of all kฤfir lands, certainly the aggressors are dealt with before those nations not actively waging war against the Khilฤfah. This is an obvious reality. Any disbeliever standing in the way of the Islamic State will be killed, without pity or remorse, until Muslims suffer no harm and governance is entirely for Allah."

2017-11-15 21:36:04 UTC

It's no joke.

2017-11-15 21:36:16 UTC

Very professionaly put together.

2017-11-15 21:36:46 UTC

Makes for some damn good evidence that ISIS is fucked, whenever anyone tries to argue otherwise.

2017-11-15 21:37:19 UTC

Although I suppose the argument is more often that ISIS is only a small fraction of Muslims, which might be true but misleading.

2017-11-15 21:38:31 UTC

they refer to westerners as the "crusaders"

2017-11-15 21:40:21 UTC

Well, this should be used as evidence that you can't negotiate with fanatics

2017-11-15 21:42:48 UTC

and man that quote is just the beginning, it gets worse

2017-11-15 21:47:13 UTC

dude some of this is fucking insane, a story about a dream a guy had of detonating himself and his friend being like "yo pick up his head to see if he's smiling"

2017-11-15 21:55:21 UTC

I remember Sargs used an issue of the mag in one of his videos

2017-11-15 21:55:25 UTC

Looked pretty schmick

2017-11-15 22:01:35 UTC

Yup

2017-11-15 22:09:10 UTC

jihadology

2017-11-15 22:09:22 UTC

Sounds like a Prince song

2017-11-15 22:09:27 UTC

is the website to go to to get analysis on ISIS

2017-11-15 22:09:39 UTC

i wont post the link here

2017-11-16 00:43:41 UTC

listening now

2017-11-16 00:43:45 UTC

funnily enough

2017-11-16 02:22:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/380543233551237130/Rumiyah-cover-issue-8.gif

2017-11-16 16:39:57 UTC

so this is a interesting concept

2017-11-16 16:40:12 UTC

the best thought on it is the book starship troopers

2017-11-16 16:40:23 UTC

highly recommend

2017-11-16 16:51:51 UTC

service earns citizenship

2017-11-16 16:52:17 UTC

Earning the right to vote seems fishy to me

2017-11-16 16:53:00 UTC

its obviously wrong

2017-11-16 16:53:28 UTC

when the state gets to decide who votes on totally obligatory criteria then it is no longer a democracy

2017-11-16 16:54:44 UTC

plus the whole concept of representetive democracy goes down the toilet

2017-11-16 16:54:59 UTC

If you cant vote you arent represented

2017-11-16 16:57:44 UTC

Well nobody was saying the government would decide who gets to vote.

2017-11-16 16:58:00 UTC

You're making a straw man, friend.

2017-11-16 16:58:42 UTC

And franti, we already have certain restrictions on voting.

2017-11-16 17:01:57 UTC

To say 'if you can't vote you aren't represented' misses the point of the representation. The vote doesn't represent you, politicians do.

2017-11-16 17:02:32 UTC

At least, that's the hope.

2017-11-16 17:03:09 UTC

So even if you can vote, that doesn't mean your personal interestes are represented. In fact no one's interests are represented 100% of the time.

2017-11-16 17:04:27 UTC

To be clear Radeon, the US isn't a democracy. It's a constitutional republic.

2017-11-16 17:05:09 UTC

Direct democracy is basically mob rule and it's a horrible way to do just about anything.

2017-11-16 17:05:45 UTC

At least of a bureaucratic nature.

2017-11-16 17:05:45 UTC

i'm against literally all voting restrictions for what its worth

2017-11-16 17:05:51 UTC

so long as youre a citizen ofc

2017-11-16 17:06:00 UTC

age limits?

2017-11-16 17:06:42 UTC

well that too

2017-11-16 17:07:01 UTC

naturally

2017-11-16 17:07:07 UTC

what if someone is a terrorist? should there be systems in place to prevent them from voting?

2017-11-16 17:07:47 UTC

are there enough terrorists to matter? who gets to decide what is terrorism and what isnt?

2017-11-16 17:08:42 UTC

Terrorism is political violence

2017-11-16 17:09:19 UTC

Assuming there aren't now, would you change your mind if there was a lot more terrorists in the future?

2017-11-16 17:09:35 UTC

is war political violence?

2017-11-16 17:11:02 UTC

Terrorism excludes state military force.

2017-11-16 17:11:32 UTC

so was the boston tea party a terrorist act? how about the warsaw uprising?

2017-11-16 17:11:52 UTC

what if one of the states involved is completely unrecognized?

2017-11-16 17:12:12 UTC

Like the Islamic State?

2017-11-16 17:12:29 UTC

like kosovo etc

2017-11-16 17:12:31 UTC

but yes

2017-11-16 17:12:37 UTC

Sure, we can assume those occurences were terrorism by nature.

2017-11-16 17:12:50 UTC

btp is a horrible example

2017-11-16 17:13:00 UTC

ok, the entire revolutionary war

2017-11-16 17:13:12 UTC

well I was gonna just brush over it for sake of argument but Dan piped up

2017-11-16 17:13:38 UTC

my point is that the word terrorist in modern use simply means attacks from people we don't like

2017-11-16 17:13:46 UTC

just dont like misrepresentation

2017-11-16 17:13:56 UTC

my bad on derailing

2017-11-16 17:14:01 UTC

no prob

2017-11-16 17:14:08 UTC

there are dozens of events that are technically terrorism that we can easily morally justify

2017-11-16 17:14:40 UTC

i don't like how terrorist is just a political buzzword

2017-11-16 17:14:57 UTC

I'll grant you that terrorism is not a clearly defined term, and deciding whether or not to label particular groups or events as terrorist can be tricky.

2017-11-16 17:15:01 UTC

it can be used interchangibly with "freedom fighter" from the other side

2017-11-16 17:15:17 UTC

But for the sake of argument, can we not assume that a particular individual is very much a terrorist?

2017-11-16 17:15:36 UTC

i think its better to actually examine suspented 'terrorists' on the merits of their methods and goals

2017-11-16 17:16:39 UTC

This is really skirting around the point of my older question, so I'll ask a different one. Should someone with a warrant for murder be able to vote?

2017-11-16 17:16:52 UTC

to answer your question, no , i dont think we can justify denying voting rights to 'terrorists' because the word terrorist has no clear definition beyond "enemies of the state"

2017-11-16 17:17:12 UTC

ah ok

2017-11-16 17:17:18 UTC

with a warrant? them trying to vote would naturally set off a few bells

2017-11-16 17:17:29 UTC

Not if we don't require IDs.

2017-11-16 17:17:39 UTC

i would definitely require an ID

2017-11-16 17:17:45 UTC

and make IDs totally free

2017-11-16 17:18:03 UTC

Paid for by tax dollars?

2017-11-16 17:18:32 UTC

well yea i can easily justify taxation if its a benefit given to literally everybody

2017-11-16 17:18:47 UTC

But not everyone pays taxes.

2017-11-16 17:18:51 UTC

ID's cant be that expensive

2017-11-16 17:19:04 UTC

yes but everyone will eventually pay taxes at some point

2017-11-16 17:19:08 UTC

Not true.

2017-11-16 17:19:12 UTC

even if its sales tax

2017-11-16 17:19:40 UTC

unless you live in the woods foraging in which case you probably don't have an ID anyway

2017-11-16 17:21:10 UTC

So you're assuming that we'll be able to cover at least the IDs just fine because naturally everybody has to pay state sales tax.

2017-11-16 17:21:45 UTC

if an ID is needed to vote the state should supply them free of charge

2017-11-16 17:22:23 UTC

What about Oregon? They have no sales tax.

2017-11-16 17:22:24 UTC

naturally they can't be willed into existence so it will be paid for by tax

2017-11-16 17:22:41 UTC

So how do they pay for the IDs out of everyone's pocket fairly?

2017-11-16 17:22:46 UTC

i'm sure they can find the $10 a person they need to make some ID's

2017-11-16 17:23:20 UTC

Should they charge you $10 for your ID at he DMV?

2017-11-16 17:23:27 UTC

I mean, you're gonna pay it anyway in sales tax, right?

2017-11-16 17:24:30 UTC

no, because then you are creating a financial barrier to voting

2017-11-16 17:25:14 UTC

No, the financial barrier is there no matter where you put it.

2017-11-16 17:25:23 UTC

That's a pretty basic economic principle.

2017-11-16 17:25:40 UTC

When politicians say they're going to reduce the cost of healthcare, they don't really mean that.

2017-11-16 17:26:12 UTC

It's not possible at actually reduce the cost of the healthcare without actually making the service less valuable.

2017-11-16 17:26:16 UTC

of course

2017-11-16 17:26:20 UTC

You can only relocate the cost.

2017-11-16 17:26:30 UTC

im making a special case for things which are actual rights

2017-11-16 17:26:46 UTC

like voting

2017-11-16 17:26:55 UTC

i think financial barriers are infringement

2017-11-16 17:27:09 UTC

what if the state decided to charge $10,000 for ID's? whats stopping them?

2017-11-16 17:27:17 UTC

then only the super rich would vote.

2017-11-16 17:27:31 UTC

this is obviously an extreme case

2017-11-16 17:27:49 UTC

What I'm saying is you literally cannot eliminate the cost. It has to go somewhere.

2017-11-16 17:27:55 UTC

likewise infringing on the second amendment by requiring permits, stamps etc which are prohibitively expensive

2017-11-16 17:27:58 UTC

Otherwise the system breaks down.

2017-11-16 17:28:07 UTC

i get that

2017-11-16 17:28:31 UTC

i don't mind being taxed for a system I don't use so long as that system is still available to me

2017-11-16 17:28:56 UTC

for instance the public school system

2017-11-16 17:29:44 UTC

Let me ask this question, why should everyone have the right to vote? Why is voting a right for all legal adult citizens?

2017-11-16 17:30:57 UTC

voting isn't intrinsicly a right but you have a right to self-determination and casting your vote is part of that

2017-11-16 17:32:42 UTC

Voting means defining the extent to which government can use force.

2017-11-16 17:33:08 UTC

Government being defined as the body which has a monopoly on the justified use of force.

2017-11-16 17:33:55 UTC

So you could say that voting is exerting force or restraining force.

2017-11-16 17:34:25 UTC

This is quite different from self-determination.

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