Message from @radeon
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so this is a interesting concept
the best thought on it is the book starship troopers
highly recommend
service earns citizenship
Earning the right to vote seems fishy to me
its obviously wrong
when the state gets to decide who votes on totally obligatory criteria then it is no longer a democracy
plus the whole concept of representetive democracy goes down the toilet
If you cant vote you arent represented
Well nobody was saying the government would decide who gets to vote.
You're making a straw man, friend.
And franti, we already have certain restrictions on voting.
To say 'if you can't vote you aren't represented' misses the point of the representation. The vote doesn't represent you, politicians do.
At least, that's the hope.
So even if you can vote, that doesn't mean your personal interestes are represented. In fact no one's interests are represented 100% of the time.
To be clear Radeon, the US isn't a democracy. It's a constitutional republic.
Direct democracy is basically mob rule and it's a horrible way to do just about anything.
At least of a bureaucratic nature.
i'm against literally all voting restrictions for what its worth
age limits?
well that too
naturally
what if someone is a terrorist? should there be systems in place to prevent them from voting?
are there enough terrorists to matter? who gets to decide what is terrorism and what isnt?
Terrorism is political violence
Assuming there aren't now, would you change your mind if there was a lot more terrorists in the future?
is war political violence?
Terrorism excludes state military force.
so was the boston tea party a terrorist act? how about the warsaw uprising?
what if one of the states involved is completely unrecognized?
Like the Islamic State?
like kosovo etc
but yes
Sure, we can assume those occurences were terrorism by nature.
btp is a horrible example
ok, the entire revolutionary war
well I was gonna just brush over it for sake of argument but Dan piped up
my point is that the word terrorist in modern use simply means attacks from people we don't like