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2017-11-06 19:52:02 UTC

same with the chinese really. Poor work ethics, and poor overall efficiency, but a LOT of work hours makes up for it.

2017-11-06 19:52:05 UTC

sorry Japanese*

2017-11-06 19:52:26 UTC

yea im sure zimbabwe is a real ancap paradise my dude

2017-11-06 19:52:31 UTC

Meritocracy is more than just capitalism

2017-11-06 19:52:36 UTC

Meritocracy does not result in a higher average IQ, unless you can point me to a study which proves such a claim

2017-11-06 19:53:08 UTC

did you just skip the chapter of history class where the ANC took ideoligcal contro lof southern africa with backing by the soviet union?

2017-11-06 19:53:25 UTC

We're considering complex factors. Don't demand a study for such an abstract idea

2017-11-06 19:53:47 UTC

you're trying to shift the burden of proof.

2017-11-06 19:53:50 UTC

you came to us.

2017-11-06 19:53:51 UTC

There are many perfectly reasonable explanations to IQ variations, that can be proved by looking at genetics and differing evolutionary pressures on populations living in different environments.

2017-11-06 19:54:11 UTC

Then we need more race mixing

2017-11-06 19:54:20 UTC

Lol why?

2017-11-06 19:54:28 UTC

@franti To lower the IQ of whites and Asians? That's stupid

2017-11-06 19:54:50 UTC

what is your alternative?

2017-11-06 19:55:05 UTC

heh, franti, there was an end blurb of a news report here about IQ ceilings being reached, that suggested we go out and find us an East Asian mate

2017-11-06 19:55:10 UTC

don't come to us spouting shit about blacks being inferior and then act coy when it comes to policy.

2017-11-06 19:55:15 UTC

Going back to Africans nations being captialist

2017-11-06 19:55:20 UTC

To not forcefully mix races and let individuals choose for themselves who they want to reproduce with? @radeon

2017-11-06 19:55:36 UTC

whos forcing races to mix?

2017-11-06 19:55:36 UTC

He is dodgy

2017-11-06 19:55:48 UTC

lmao

2017-11-06 19:55:52 UTC

I didn't claim blacks were inferior, by that logic I claimed that whites were inferior to asians

2017-11-06 19:55:57 UTC

What are the policies

2017-11-06 19:56:00 UTC

no maam you *must* fuck this black man

2017-11-06 19:56:10 UTC

This is pretty typical

2017-11-06 19:56:14 UTC

Just because I point out differences doesn't mean I'm claiming one race to be''inferior'' to another

2017-11-06 19:56:28 UTC

The policy implications are scary and racism so let's ignore genetics

2017-11-06 19:56:36 UTC

Then we have no problem

2017-11-06 19:56:37 UTC

Evolution

2017-11-06 19:56:49 UTC

you did link the low IQ to negative societal effects

2017-11-06 19:57:05 UTC

Let's ignore crime, economic development and culture so we won't be called racist for pointing out the obvious differences between racial groups

2017-11-06 19:57:11 UTC

bring us to your conslusion, oh wokest one

2017-11-06 19:57:28 UTC

They're getting sensitive

2017-11-06 19:57:39 UTC

can we get a show of hands of everyone who actively denied that there are differences between races?

2017-11-06 19:57:53 UTC

There is a correlation between the wealth of a nation and the average IQ of its citizens

2017-11-06 19:58:02 UTC

So lowering the average IQ wouldn't be a good idea

2017-11-06 19:58:09 UTC

If you are in favour of universal human right than the policy implications matter

2017-11-06 19:58:10 UTC

Through mixing up the races

2017-11-06 19:58:15 UTC

You tried to wave it away

2017-11-06 19:58:20 UTC

you're implying race mixing lowers IQ, which again you have no proof for

2017-11-06 19:58:20 UTC

Now who's being coy

2017-11-06 19:58:57 UTC

you clearly don't understand hgow genetics work because you actually aren't a perfect half between your parents

2017-11-06 19:59:02 UTC

@radeon If you mix a black person with an IQ of 70 with a White person with an IQ of 105 you are going to get a child that has an IQ lower than 105. That is pretty basic genetics

2017-11-06 19:59:09 UTC

not really

2017-11-06 19:59:33 UTC

@radeon Never claimed you are a ''perfect half'', but certainly lower

2017-11-06 19:59:33 UTC

That is not necessarily true, although it appears likely

2017-11-06 19:59:46 UTC

Very likely, in fact

2017-11-06 19:59:48 UTC

by your same logic if a person with blue eyes has a child with a person with green eyes their eyes would be teal

2017-11-06 19:59:53 UTC

that of course isnt the case

2017-11-06 19:59:54 UTC

Who has the dominant gene?

2017-11-06 20:00:16 UTC

how do you know the genes that promote higher IQ aren't dominant?

2017-11-06 20:00:17 UTC

@Boris Todbringer You just showed that you really have no idea how genetics works

2017-11-06 20:00:35 UTC

I am talking about averages here

2017-11-06 20:00:38 UTC

The dominant Gene will take over even if the other gene is different

2017-11-06 20:00:42 UTC

i love this, 4th grader tier genetics

2017-11-06 20:00:45 UTC

That's not how genetics work

2017-11-06 20:00:57 UTC

Except intelligence is not controlled by a single gene

2017-11-06 20:01:00 UTC

genetics don't work with averages

2017-11-06 20:01:10 UTC

let me explain it to you how this works

2017-11-06 20:01:22 UTC

think of your genetic code as a wrestling team

2017-11-06 20:01:31 UTC

Even if the white parent has the dominant gene, the IQ will likely not be higher than 105 regardless. Are you impliying that the other parent's genes have no influence on the child's genetic makeup? @meratrix

2017-11-06 20:01:53 UTC

Btw we still dont know what the majority of our genes do

2017-11-06 20:02:02 UTC

eaach gene is a wrestler, and the other set of genes from the other parent are a roughly equivieent team with some genes weaker but some stronger

2017-11-06 20:02:10 UTC

If the other parents gene is recessive than it has no affect as long as the other gene is dominant

2017-11-06 20:02:12 UTC

I meant DNA sorry

2017-11-06 20:02:16 UTC
2017-11-06 20:02:16 UTC

the child will be the winners if you pair up those two teams

2017-11-06 20:02:19 UTC

the dominant gene

2017-11-06 20:02:48 UTC

@Boris Todbringer You honestly know absolutley nothing about genetics

2017-11-06 20:02:49 UTC

its not like you have literally every gene from both parents

2017-11-06 20:03:01 UTC

Genes do not work like averages

2017-11-06 20:03:49 UTC

If your dad is 6'1 and your mother is 4'11 you have a much lower chance of being more than 6'1 because of the influence your mother's height will have on your height. You clearly don't know anything about genetics either. It is true that the dad's genes may be dominant, but that doesn't render the genes of the other parent completely futile @meratrix

2017-11-06 20:04:09 UTC

thats factually untrue

2017-11-06 20:04:38 UTC

your height is largely random within a specific range

2017-11-06 20:04:46 UTC

If you mix a pygmy with a Nordic, should we expect the child to be either 100% black or 100% white? No, the child would be somewhere in the middle

2017-11-06 20:04:54 UTC

That is just stupid

2017-11-06 20:04:58 UTC

for all we know 6'1 is short for the dads family and you inherit the dads gene and become 6'5

2017-11-06 20:04:59 UTC

height is actually largely determined by genes interacting with the environment

2017-11-06 20:05:04 UTC

not just the genes themselves

2017-11-06 20:05:14 UTC

> genes interacting with the environment

2017-11-06 20:05:20 UTC

are you trolling us?

2017-11-06 20:05:32 UTC

me?

2017-11-06 20:05:33 UTC

no

2017-11-06 20:05:42 UTC

The environment that you grow up in has no effect on your genetic makeup, lmao

2017-11-06 20:05:44 UTC

the environment does have an effect on the human body

2017-11-06 20:05:47 UTC

how do genes interact with anything but other genes

2017-11-06 20:05:56 UTC

It doesn't have an effect on your genes, stupid @meratrix

2017-11-06 20:06:15 UTC

lol don't try to use this as a gotcha you're still wrong

2017-11-06 20:06:25 UTC

stunted growth from disease for example,you may have been tall, but if growth is stunted that won't happen

2017-11-06 20:06:43 UTC

but thats not genetic

2017-11-06 20:07:02 UTC

yes, but it is part of height, which he brought up

2017-11-06 20:07:10 UTC

trying to get a gotcha

2017-11-06 20:07:11 UTC

Can you answer my question then? Shouldn't we expect the offpsring between a pygmy from the Congo basin and someone from Northern Europe to either be 100% white or 100% black? That makes no sense @radeon

2017-11-06 20:07:30 UTC

If your gene theory were to be correct, that would be the result

2017-11-06 20:07:32 UTC

no, because there are multiple genetic pairs that go into pigmentation

2017-11-06 20:07:36 UTC

same with hair color

2017-11-06 20:07:36 UTC

are you speaking in terms of melanin content?

2017-11-06 20:07:47 UTC

and eye color

2017-11-06 20:07:50 UTC

There are also multiple genetic pairs that go into your IQ and your height

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