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2017-11-06 19:16:21 UTC

We're a Kekist Theocracy

2017-11-06 19:16:37 UTC

We don't want this server to become /pol/

2017-11-06 19:16:50 UTC

your arguments are tired and pathetic and the last thing we want is the far left further conflating liberalism with the alt right

2017-11-06 19:16:56 UTC

pol is awesome thoughh

2017-11-06 19:17:00 UTC

So this discord is essentially an echo chamber, good to know

2017-11-06 19:17:18 UTC

"you don't like what i say you are a SJW in a echo chamber"

2017-11-06 19:17:19 UTC

(((Echo)))

2017-11-06 19:17:26 UTC

lol honestly do you even have any arguments to make?

2017-11-06 19:17:27 UTC

(((Echo Chambers)))

2017-11-06 19:17:28 UTC

well, you haven't been banned yet, so it's not Steve Shives level

2017-11-06 19:17:34 UTC

@DanConway not against it, just, it tends to take over everything it touches, much like the sjws

2017-11-06 19:17:41 UTC

I made multiple arguments, you made none @radeon

2017-11-06 19:17:47 UTC

We just had a debate on guns where we disagreed

2017-11-06 19:18:02 UTC

like literaly, that debate went for over an hour

2017-11-06 19:18:09 UTC

> If religion is responsible for the epidemic wouldn't you expect for Catholic countries to be riddled with AIDS?

2017-11-06 19:18:11 UTC

Yeah, plenty of disagreement on the gun debate

2017-11-06 19:18:12 UTC

and the concept of rights as well

2017-11-06 19:18:14 UTC

and covered everything from guns, to the foundation of rights.

2017-11-06 19:18:15 UTC

nobody said religon was responsible

2017-11-06 19:18:26 UTC

its just not helping

2017-11-06 19:18:30 UTC

Just calling me an alt-righter for pointing out the scientific fact that races are different as a result of separate evolution for tens of thousands of years

2017-11-06 19:18:38 UTC

we don't deny that

2017-11-06 19:18:43 UTC

I just don't care about it

2017-11-06 19:18:51 UTC

they're not _that_ different, though.

2017-11-06 19:18:53 UTC

i will go back to my "documentary"

2017-11-06 19:18:55 UTC

That is not the problem what you want to do is

2017-11-06 19:19:00 UTC

likewise cathloic europe has far better healthcare to prevent the spread of AIDS

2017-11-06 19:19:58 UTC

The whole white concept hold no water in Europe

2017-11-06 19:20:00 UTC

if the IQ difference in race is so minimal that you can easily bridge it by somthing as simple as your income than its essentially irrelevant

2017-11-06 19:20:15 UTC

So what is the cause of the lack of healthcare? I'd say that it can be traced down to the low IQ, considering the multiple studies that prove a direct link between the wealth of a nation and its average IQ

2017-11-06 19:20:18 UTC

The Hungarians hate the Romanians

2017-11-06 19:20:29 UTC

thats circular logic

2017-11-06 19:20:35 UTC

yeah, Jews were really fucking stupid when they first came to the US, now look at them. There was a concsious effort to work there way up.

2017-11-06 19:20:52 UTC

there are plenty of reasons why (most) of africa is bad off and none of them have to do with race

2017-11-06 19:20:53 UTC

IQ is imprtant, but is not predeterministic

2017-11-06 19:21:00 UTC

You also have to consider what Africa has to contend

2017-11-06 19:21:11 UTC

There is little arable land

2017-11-06 19:21:18 UTC

Minimal difference? Sub-saharan Africa has an IQ ranging anywhere from 56 to 70, while white countries are almost exclusively a 100 or more. That is not minimal by any standards of measure

2017-11-06 19:21:31 UTC

Lots of endemic deadly diseases

2017-11-06 19:21:40 UTC

africa has very little arable land that has reliable rainfall, and even the food they grow, there isn't much infastructure to transport it as most africans live in small, spaced out villages rather than large cities

2017-11-06 19:21:51 UTC

you've also not proven that it's related to their race, Charles

2017-11-06 19:21:58 UTC

^ this

2017-11-06 19:22:08 UTC

but you seem to argue from that point of view

2017-11-06 19:22:09 UTC

By the way, the African countries that were colonized the most (South Africa and Nigeria) are by far the wealthiest, and also have the largest white population

2017-11-06 19:22:38 UTC

africa politically has been in turmoil largely due to the race for africa caused by european nations in the 19th century

2017-11-06 19:22:40 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/377175977266118656/13c-Cranial_Capacity.jpg

2017-11-06 19:22:43 UTC
2017-11-06 19:22:49 UTC

It is definately related to race

2017-11-06 19:22:54 UTC

yes, you've shown correlation

2017-11-06 19:22:55 UTC

Cranial capacity?

2017-11-06 19:22:57 UTC

yes, they have lower IQ's but if they could build up there own civilization their IQ would have increased in kind, like the rest of the world. Having a succesful civilization leaves time for contemplating the world.

2017-11-06 19:22:59 UTC

As proven by the difference in cranical capacity and IQ

2017-11-06 19:23:17 UTC

that chart is all over the place

2017-11-06 19:23:19 UTC

It allows people to build up knowledge not neccesaryfor survival

2017-11-06 19:23:21 UTC

between something arbitrary, it also looks like an awful correlation

2017-11-06 19:23:36 UTC

Also consider that the borders drawn in Africa are arbitrary

2017-11-06 19:24:03 UTC

how are indians 20 IQ points higher with smaller brain capacity thsn aboriginals?

2017-11-06 19:24:42 UTC

also if you knew anything about the human brain, the size is largely irrelevant, the density of brain matter is much more important

2017-11-06 19:24:46 UTC

It's not an awful correlation by any standards of measure. There is a link between the climatic conditions of a region and the cranial capacity of its population. Neanderthals for example, who lived in a tundra environment, had a brain volume of 1600 cubic centimetres, while today's Caucasians have a brain volume of 1350 cubic centimetres

2017-11-06 19:25:25 UTC

your point is already invalid based off of what @radeon said.

2017-11-06 19:25:33 UTC

That can be explained by the increased evolutionary pressure based upon populations in less resourceful environmental conditions

2017-11-06 19:25:33 UTC

question from where are you taking this info?

2017-11-06 19:26:10 UTC

Some are getting their shit together

2017-11-06 19:26:41 UTC

again nobody disagrees there are differences in race, but these are based on **averages**, rely largely on the geographic area of the people in question and their living conditions, and in no way reflect individuals

2017-11-06 19:26:46 UTC

Once again, I ackknowledge that races are different in some ways, but I just choose not to care because of my belief in Liberty based off of ideas from John Locke

2017-11-06 19:27:14 UTC

@Boris Todbringer how do explain how the alt right has a lower average IQ than the US national average?

2017-11-06 19:27:28 UTC

IQ is a genetic trait, and environment has rather minimal effect on it, as proven by many studies

2017-11-06 19:27:39 UTC

also by your own standards, arent the jews the master race? they totally murder whitey in IQ.

2017-11-06 19:27:46 UTC

IQ isn't genetic lmao

2017-11-06 19:27:50 UTC

IQ ceeling is proven to be genetic

2017-11-06 19:27:52 UTC

do you even know what IQ is?

2017-11-06 19:28:03 UTC

@radeon I'm not a member of the ''alt right'', and I would put the study showing that to some serious doubt

2017-11-06 19:28:17 UTC

race realist?

2017-11-06 19:28:21 UTC

IQ can be improved

2017-11-06 19:28:27 UTC

Race is real

2017-11-06 19:28:28 UTC

That is a preferable term, yes

2017-11-06 19:28:31 UTC

Where are you from? @Boris Todbringer

2017-11-06 19:28:59 UTC

It would be foolish to assume that 70,000 years of separate evolution between Negroids and Caucasians wouldn't result in differences with regards to intelligence

2017-11-06 19:28:59 UTC

i hate how pretentious the term race realist is, as if you're right just because your title says so

2017-11-06 19:29:13 UTC

***>using negroid unironically***

2017-11-06 19:29:33 UTC

Negroid is a scientific classification, unlike the term ''nigger'', which is a pejorative term

2017-11-06 19:29:37 UTC

@franti read the study i posted

2017-11-06 19:29:40 UTC

also get your latin straight - caucasoid, negroid, mongoloid

2017-11-06 19:30:12 UTC

Caucasian can also be used to refer to a member of a given racial group

2017-11-06 19:30:13 UTC

Ronald Wilson presented the first clear and compelling evidence that the heritability of IQ increases with age. We propose to call the phenomenon 'The Wilson Effect' and we document the effect diagrammatically with key twin and adoption studies, including twins reared apart, that have been carried out at various ages and in a large number of different settings. The results show that the heritability of IQ reaches an asymptote at about 0.80 at 18-20 years of age and continuing at that level well into adulthood. In the aggregate, the studies also confirm that shared environmental influence decreases across age, approximating about 0.10 at 18-20 years of age and continuing at that level into adulthood. These conclusions apply to the Westernized industrial democracies in which most of the studies have been carried out.

2017-11-06 19:31:47 UTC

This study shows that the effect environment has on IQ is extremely minimal

2017-11-06 19:31:58 UTC

Are African-Americans, with ancestry in certain African areas, placed higher on the IQ scale than the people who live in the nations of the same areas today?

2017-11-06 19:32:07 UTC

How do you explain the white people who aren't caucasian, the Urgrics who live in Europe, the Hungarians

2017-11-06 19:32:11 UTC

If so, how did this change happen in such a short time?

2017-11-06 19:32:17 UTC

you're assuming white and black americans share the same environiment

2017-11-06 19:32:39 UTC

also this is from 1992

2017-11-06 19:32:43 UTC

anybody want to discuss in the voice chat with a moderator?

2017-11-06 19:32:47 UTC

can we get a study from this century?

2017-11-06 19:32:52 UTC

@Mal Negroids from the Congo region have an IQ between 56 to 65, while the ones from the surrounding Savannah habitats have an IQ that is 70 on average

2017-11-06 19:33:12 UTC

so race obviously not a factor.

2017-11-06 19:33:28 UTC

is this the same for those in the US who have ancestry from that region? Or has there been no studies done on something like that?

2017-11-06 19:33:31 UTC

Once again, were not denying it, we just don't care about it.

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