I AGREE THERE ARE CONS

INDEED

why can't people just be normal

THERE ARE MANY CONS

forget all of the mess they have accrued

HOWEVER, RENTING IS AWFUL

in their heads

Owning anything can be punishing in certain countries

But here, it really isn't

prozak

Even if you own huge amounts of land

land ownership = tax, HOA/ordinance, needing to do your own repairs, and worst of all being locked into one spot if the area ever becomes a bad place to live

i.e. in case of disaster, war, whatever

it's a huge financial liability in that it will not generate income for you as quickly as other investments, and is not liquid

i.e. if your house appreciates by 5000% you will still need to find a buyer otherwise that return is fictional

there are a lot of pros to owning land but I only do it for the cheapest land

it's only worth doing if it cost 1 month's salary or less and very low taxes

like a random few acres out in Montana or something

@fallot many cannot do that. Their mess has defined them.

I was just referring to alt right people online

basically the more "choice" the land becomes, the worse it is to actually do - it costs more and there's more rules

I feel like these people are trapped in their ideas/movements/whatever

I don't expect objectivity from people

but I do expect composure

and fallot - my plan after seceding from society is to just do whatever the hell I want

probably become intensely involved in art & music

say whatever the hell I want without fear of consequence, hang out with whoever remains

probably remain semi nomadic

I don't agree with your motivations but the plan itself isn't bad

so maybe it'll work out to something good

what even are my motivations?

all I want is what I consider basic human freedom

your stated motivations I mean

it just requires being a hardcore sociopath to get there

that's the funniest part, I do not even enjoy being how I am. It is useful but I only turned out this way because my life directly forced me to, otherwise I never would've had any guile at all

that is part of why I hate the world so much, it forced me to become mini satan just to survive

I think we already had a productive conversation

by the way I'm very happy about that, thank you

I felt like I spoke to a real person

good

I think I'm fine with leaving it at that unless you want to continue

well, there's not much to say on the topic

actually, one more point

I don't know if you considered it

I think my narcissism is part innate, but hugely exacerbated by having to chronically lie

it's funny, what you said about your life

I'm in some ways the exact opposite too

if I am not narcissistic I will lose sense of myself entirely

I only turned out fine because I had a great life, otherwise I am predisposed potentially to being a pretty bad person

lie lie lie lie REAFFIRM SELF lie lie lie lie REAFFIRM SELF

no see

that is the fear, the wall

the barrier

there's something real beyond that

you keep responding to that fear, thinking you're doing something about it

you're not, you're just delaying things

of course, and if I became that person I would be impoverished instantly

because the ultimate issue remains unresolved

maybe you could become that way slowly

if I were real I would quit medical school yesterday and just start drawing comics and play guitar

I would just make art all day every day

and be poor

would you like to do that

I know a girl who is a professional artist, she is disney grade

if you could eke out a living

she lost weight due to starvation

hypothetically

she is better than I ever will be

but she lives with her parents and cannot afford enough food

is she happy

no

she started gradually becoming a tumblr SJW

oh well

last I saw she got an undercut

she posted stuff about how the mormon church should basically go SJW and I called it retarded and she blocked me on social media

it was like one of the only posts I even made this year

a lot of people with your affliction use this SJW stuff by the way

have you noticed?

yes

I used to think well of these people ultimately, because I thought they were motivated by love, even if they were massively wrong to the point of evil

and that hasn't changed for most of them

but plenty of people use it in a different way, anyway that's a pretty big topic and can get a bit self congratulatory in an alt-right context so nvm

I'm interested

there's not much to it

they just use it as a justification for being a good person

while beating up other people with those values and standards

but in truth, they don't really care about anything but their own selves

which are either gaping holes or gaping wounds

these are the types who binge drink and use drugs and MDMA every weekend

yeah, terminally unhappy people

and do lots of yoga mindfulness bullshit but still struggle with depression

all of that stuff they do looks to me like window dressing

camoflague

yes

well there is a certain depression that comes with it

I grew up around well centered, good, spiritual people

so even now I have a bit of naivete about this

I mean.... if you are never allowed to just be you, and everything you have to do to financially and socially survive requires systematically ripping out your natural behavior and feelings and replacing it with "useful" alternatives, it messes you up

I don't know, I have some sympathy

but at some level, their plight seems self chosen