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2017-07-15 13:29:20 UTC

what are you?

2017-07-15 13:29:54 UTC

a Titoist, coincidentally

2017-07-15 13:30:02 UTC

I'm from Serbia

2017-07-15 13:30:08 UTC

nice

2017-07-15 13:30:13 UTC

Very critical of Tito though

2017-07-15 13:30:46 UTC

only other Serb I know is a German-boo nazi

2017-07-15 13:30:51 UTC

lmao

2017-07-15 13:30:55 UTC

a Serb that loves a german

2017-07-15 13:31:02 UTC

what a fucking traitor to his creed and country

2017-07-15 13:31:12 UTC

he's from Republika Srpska too

2017-07-15 13:31:24 UTC

that is two levels of irony

2017-07-15 13:31:41 UTC

I know

2017-07-15 13:31:49 UTC

not only is he a little bitch but he should know better being from Bosna since the nazis armed the Ustashe

2017-07-15 13:32:01 UTC

maybe he should've gotten stabbed in his crib by some Croat

2017-07-15 13:32:06 UTC

or his parents at least

2017-07-15 13:32:06 UTC

I try to critisize him as gently as possible

2017-07-15 13:32:13 UTC

lol I'd tear his anus

2017-07-15 13:32:24 UTC

Gay pride marches should be banned

2017-07-15 13:32:31 UTC

yes

2017-07-15 13:32:34 UTC

No Larping

2017-07-15 13:33:22 UTC

@MrAlpal I used to be very against Tito but I've mellowed out over time, I am still extremely critical of him however

2017-07-15 13:33:50 UTC

what about, in particular?

2017-07-15 13:34:57 UTC

@MrAlpal Market socialsm is un-sustainable without foreign aid, it is at a permanent deficit. I am not speaking out of my ass ideologically either, we still have old papers from 49 to 91 so I have observed the effects of a market socialist economy

2017-07-15 13:35:02 UTC

I can go into deeper detail if you want

2017-07-15 13:35:37 UTC

mhmm

2017-07-15 13:35:59 UTC

then what are you politically?

2017-07-15 13:36:59 UTC

I am a marxist-leninist, I stand for planned economy. However I am not so stupid as to realize a market is necessary unless you have a strong industrial base like the former soviet union, so realistically speaking if Serbia turned red tomorrow we'd still need to have a private sector unfortunately

2017-07-15 13:37:29 UTC

So many of Tito's policies would be applied non the less, since you have to adapt to material conditions

2017-07-15 13:40:04 UTC

what is your argument for market socialism?

2017-07-15 13:41:18 UTC

@Your Mother hashtagFBPE I'm sorry but why do I need to pay for free houses and food with my taxes when I had no say in ''bombing their countries''

2017-07-15 13:41:57 UTC

@Timo))) alright, so here it is, the biggest reason migrants are attracted to the western european countries is because of the higher living standard and greater job opportunitties since their countries are usually unemployment riddled shitholes, if you knew anything you'd also know the biggest immigrant population in the EU are slavs who are moving there for the same reason. Secondly, these migrants are moved into europe without care because currently large capital cannot sustain the wages it is giving it's people in the EU and it can't sustain the welfare state that existed before the migrants either, they aleviate this by importing masses of immigrants with various degrees and diplomas which are best used for their economy by sitting around, because they suddenly have a reserve army of labor. Because there are suddenly 30.000 more people in the job field large capital can shrink worker pays or extend work hours because if they don't want to work for scraps Jamal or Latifa will do it, and if they don't give basic upkeep to Jamal to stay there he won't be content with sitting around unemployed

2017-07-15 13:42:26 UTC

@Timo))) you willingly exist under their rule

2017-07-15 13:42:31 UTC

Migrants will always be attracted to more wealthy countries, but it's the type of immigrant you attract that matters

2017-07-15 13:42:39 UTC

i mean if you dont want to pay taxes

2017-07-15 13:42:42 UTC

move to liberland

2017-07-15 13:42:46 UTC

When 90% of somalians have no work after 2 years they should starve

2017-07-15 13:42:46 UTC

its between serbia and croate

2017-07-15 13:42:52 UTC

croatia*

2017-07-15 13:42:55 UTC

fully libertarian

2017-07-15 13:42:57 UTC

no immigrants

2017-07-15 13:42:58 UTC

army

2017-07-15 13:42:59 UTC

or bombing

2017-07-15 13:43:06 UTC

but also happens to be poor

2017-07-15 13:43:11 UTC

too bad cuck the 10 people running your economy don't ccare that you hate uneducated muzzies

2017-07-15 13:43:12 UTC

just for you isnt it!

2017-07-15 13:43:28 UTC

because guess what, muzz's work for the cheapest

2017-07-15 13:43:33 UTC

that's moving the goalposts, the welfare state attracts people who don't produce

2017-07-15 13:43:43 UTC

yes, that's the point

2017-07-15 13:43:46 UTC

it isn't moving goalposts

2017-07-15 13:43:53 UTC

if you had no welfare states I guarantee you the immigrants would be more productive

2017-07-15 13:44:17 UTC

they activley invite people who don't do shit so they have 10.000 people 'registered'on the job market so they can lower wages by devaluing labor

2017-07-15 13:44:39 UTC

this is basic economics, it is in the interest of large capital to do this, it is inevitable with the modern capitalist system.

2017-07-15 13:44:52 UTC

and welfare exists for this very reason, to keep a reserve army of labor

2017-07-15 13:45:09 UTC

which is why the welfare state must go

2017-07-15 13:45:40 UTC

@Deleted User sry ะฑั€ะฐั‚ะต, but I'm not drunk enough to debate politics

2017-07-15 13:45:51 UTC

yes, but it won't go before large capital goes kiddo :^)

2017-07-15 13:46:00 UTC

@MrAlpal no problem brt

2017-07-15 13:46:15 UTC

So is this a leftist discord? Or am I in a alt-right discord?

2017-07-15 13:46:19 UTC

both

2017-07-15 13:46:22 UTC

no leftists here

2017-07-15 13:46:24 UTC

only communists

2017-07-15 13:46:27 UTC

lel

2017-07-15 13:46:42 UTC

you dont have to get rid of large capital to get rid of the welfare state

2017-07-15 13:46:46 UTC

anyway game again, brb

2017-07-15 13:47:08 UTC

communists, socialists and other assorted leftist with a large portion of r/The_Donald

2017-07-15 13:47:40 UTC

Wow. So this isn't ANTIFA?

2017-07-15 13:48:01 UTC

Antifa are now a terrorist group lol

2017-07-15 13:48:12 UTC

the american ones are a joke

2017-07-15 13:48:21 UTC

only the german group is respectable

2017-07-15 13:49:02 UTC

Anyone know where I can find a ANTIFA discord server? I've been looking AND looking and I can't find anything!

2017-07-15 13:50:04 UTC

>would be more productive

2017-07-15 13:50:08 UTC

boy they would be dead

2017-07-15 13:50:09 UTC

why they are a bunch on skinny shits, they need to learn martial arts

2017-07-15 13:50:26 UTC

To ask a couple of questions

2017-07-15 13:50:39 UTC

they are all idpol fags

2017-07-15 13:50:47 UTC

>learn martial arms

2017-07-15 13:50:49 UTC

bitch get guns

2017-07-15 13:51:04 UTC

no unarmed combat is the way to go

2017-07-15 13:51:11 UTC

no

2017-07-15 13:51:14 UTC

sks and pssh-41 only

2017-07-15 13:51:15 UTC

a side kick to the face looks way better

2017-07-15 13:51:18 UTC

dp-28 maybe

2017-07-15 13:51:31 UTC

if ur in UK

2017-07-15 13:51:34 UTC

>side kick to the face instead of blowing it up

2017-07-15 13:51:34 UTC

unarmed combat

2017-07-15 13:51:38 UTC

if you are in america

2017-07-15 13:51:41 UTC

then take guns

2017-07-15 13:51:42 UTC

You know UK has a few legal weapons right

2017-07-15 13:51:51 UTC

like the ones the police use

2017-07-15 13:52:04 UTC

yes but its veryhard to get

2017-07-15 13:52:08 UTC

yes

2017-07-15 13:52:11 UTC

but not impossible

2017-07-15 13:52:11 UTC

you need license and all that shit

2017-07-15 13:52:12 UTC

so doable

2017-07-15 13:52:15 UTC

so has to be done

2017-07-15 13:52:16 UTC

no

2017-07-15 13:52:17 UTC

BJJ

2017-07-15 13:52:21 UTC

Armbar

2017-07-15 13:52:25 UTC

rear naked choke

2017-07-15 13:52:33 UTC

these techniques are all viable

2017-07-15 13:52:39 UTC

and work very well

2017-07-15 13:52:48 UTC

just dont get kicked while on the ground

2017-07-15 14:25:29 UTC

it got called yesterday

2017-07-15 14:25:47 UTC

our earth destroying capitalist way has fully killed the great barrier reef

2017-07-15 14:26:21 UTC

lets continue to do this untill we're all dead amirite fellow retards!

2017-07-15 14:26:27 UTC
2017-07-15 14:26:52 UTC

i say we nuke earth and do this all over again

2017-07-15 14:26:59 UTC

because this has failed heavily so far

2017-07-15 15:03:05 UTC

The free market might have an answer to the coral problem

2017-07-15 15:03:26 UTC

it has been tested in the north sea and has had good effects

2017-07-15 15:07:13 UTC

You've probably seen the invention that plans to rid the ocean of plastic too

2017-07-15 15:07:19 UTC

goes into work next year

2017-07-15 15:07:22 UTC

Please can someone tell me why Stirner is so popular ?

2017-07-15 15:07:33 UTC

very memeable

2017-07-15 15:08:14 UTC

Example ?

2017-07-15 15:09:05 UTC

I don't even like stirner but the memes are okay

2017-07-15 15:09:32 UTC

Well, in Belgium we don't talk a lot of him.

2017-07-15 15:09:54 UTC

he's been very overlooked in history, only lately he's been getting a revival

2017-07-15 15:10:03 UTC

I've read his book but that's all.

2017-07-15 15:10:24 UTC

>north sea

2017-07-15 15:10:27 UTC

>viable coral

2017-07-15 15:10:32 UTC

do not.

2017-07-15 15:10:42 UTC

that is not a thing

2017-07-15 15:10:48 UTC

and if it works there its screwed elsewhere

2017-07-15 15:11:13 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2017-07-15 15:13:00 UTC

I'm taking the scientists side on this one

2017-07-15 15:14:01 UTC

the thing that bothers me is that some people want a solution right now, we've only been knowing that we're having a devastating impact on the earth for what, 50 years now?

2017-07-15 15:14:20 UTC

And with the rise of easier modes of crowdfunding I think it's a question of time

2017-07-15 15:14:32 UTC

>using disgusting outdated versions of energy creation

2017-07-15 15:14:38 UTC

>there is no sulotion

2017-07-15 15:14:41 UTC

solution

2017-07-15 15:14:52 UTC

make an actual argument, I don't like this implying shit

2017-07-15 15:17:32 UTC

If I'm reading it correct you simply want to stop using these ''outdated'' industry right?

2017-07-15 15:18:22 UTC

I'd rather use them now and focus on developing new and more efficient industries, will have much less an impact on people, which is something environmentalists don't put very high imo

2017-07-15 15:46:42 UTC

greetings

2017-07-15 17:00:18 UTC

I read Stirner and for me was basically an insight on people without morals and made me question what I follow, having the answers was just a quick reflection.
But yeap, at least the memes are good

2017-07-15 18:00:16 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/335843022841577473/FB_IMG_1499993709481.jpg

2017-07-15 18:00:27 UTC

Are you despooked?

2017-07-15 18:01:17 UTC

And did you read the English translation

2017-07-15 19:34:44 UTC

Haha

2017-07-15 19:35:19 UTC

Marxis critiques of Stirner were semi literate nonsense

2017-07-15 19:35:59 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/335867113073803274/20170709_213316.JPG

2017-07-15 20:46:51 UTC

New copypasta tbh ^

2017-07-15 20:47:26 UTC

>idealistic theoretical masturbation
>is a marxist

2017-07-15 20:47:29 UTC

๐Ÿ˜…

2017-07-15 20:47:37 UTC

I think both marx and stirner contribute

2017-07-15 20:47:59 UTC

Ok well now you're just being wrong @Deleted User

2017-07-15 20:48:17 UTC

Literally using the arguments a capitalist would use against marxism against me

2017-07-15 20:48:23 UTC

Marx is known for his materialism

2017-07-15 20:48:29 UTC

Sociology is pseudoscience

2017-07-15 20:48:31 UTC

Sorry

2017-07-15 20:48:37 UTC

Epic

2017-07-15 20:48:47 UTC

Not an argument

2017-07-15 20:49:07 UTC

sociology is shit tbh

2017-07-15 20:49:17 UTC

Which of marx's works did you read? And which of stirners?

2017-07-15 20:50:01 UTC

*That which is presented with no evidence, can be dismissed with no evidence*

2017-07-15 20:50:21 UTC

Economics doesn't claim to be a science

2017-07-15 20:50:26 UTC

Because *it's not*

2017-07-15 20:50:36 UTC

And psychology is a diverse subject

2017-07-15 20:50:54 UTC

human psychology can be put to use in therapy at least

2017-07-15 20:50:57 UTC

Sounds like someone doesn't understand the definition of science

2017-07-15 20:51:05 UTC

"the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."

2017-07-15 20:51:38 UTC

Social science is pseudo science

2017-07-15 20:51:56 UTC

Social sciences are widely accepted in the STEM field

2017-07-15 20:52:53 UTC

first of all you need to take a breather, you cuss every other word, baboon

2017-07-15 20:53:02 UTC

what's your issue?

2017-07-15 20:53:29 UTC

I'm betting he's american, the word science has different implications here

2017-07-15 20:54:35 UTC

And saying we'd be eating rats without social science is somehow adding to any discussion

2017-07-15 20:54:42 UTC

you think that's an actual argument?

2017-07-15 20:55:03 UTC

Name me something you can do with sociology in this day and age

2017-07-15 20:55:07 UTC

It's contributing evidence of social scientists functionality and benifits

2017-07-15 20:55:36 UTC

And what is it that social scientists do that benefits humanity?

2017-07-15 20:55:58 UTC

Urban planning, human geography

2017-07-15 20:56:08 UTC

Urban planning? how?

2017-07-15 20:56:22 UTC

We did it fine before social scientists

2017-07-15 20:57:00 UTC

I don't see anything concrete you can do there

2017-07-15 20:57:04 UTC

Urban planning is literally a field in STEM

2017-07-15 20:57:04 UTC

sorry

2017-07-15 20:57:22 UTC

how is urban planning linked to social science?

2017-07-15 20:57:39 UTC

you too, go look up the word argument

2017-07-15 20:58:04 UTC

I'd rather talk to void tbh, you seem a bit dim

2017-07-15 20:58:47 UTC

Doesn't show

2017-07-15 20:58:51 UTC

Understanding the way humans operate and settle is integral to planning infrastructure

2017-07-15 20:59:25 UTC

Bickering isn't constructive, cut it out

2017-07-15 20:59:30 UTC

and what has social science told us about how humans operate that was different than before the social scientists?

2017-07-15 20:59:39 UTC

I can't think of anything really

2017-07-15 20:59:53 UTC

In practical terms

2017-07-15 21:00:17 UTC

The act of gaining knowledge from observation, studying natural phenomena, and analyzing it is the science

2017-07-15 21:01:59 UTC

I mean more practical as in, what has changed in a city as a result of social scientists sharing their knowledge?

2017-07-15 21:02:31 UTC

Stuff like how we've moved away from centralized city layouts

2017-07-15 21:04:01 UTC

Streamlining production and convenience by developing districts

2017-07-15 21:04:25 UTC

I thought architects did that

2017-07-15 21:04:41 UTC

Architects design buildings

2017-07-15 21:05:10 UTC

More than just building, they can design entire parts of cities

2017-07-15 21:05:15 UTC

Urban planners deal with where they all are, how you get to them, the distances between them and different buildings

2017-07-15 21:06:13 UTC

You see calling it a science is a stretch because it takes this long to come up with a somewhat disputed thing that they contribute

2017-07-15 21:06:24 UTC

I'd call psychology a science before sociology

2017-07-15 21:06:37 UTC

It's actually put into practice every day

2017-07-15 21:07:10 UTC

They both fit under the definition of a science

2017-07-15 21:08:26 UTC

I can see where the skepticism comes from, since it's pretty hard to point at something they really do

2017-07-15 21:08:44 UTC

I'm sure they publish papers all the time, but how many are actually being put into practice?

2017-07-15 21:09:01 UTC

I think an advertising bureau does more research and actually applies it

2017-07-15 21:10:00 UTC

Science isn't defined by how often it's put into use. By this logic a physical cosmologist is not a scientist.

2017-07-15 21:10:33 UTC

No but you can see why someone is skeptical of it

2017-07-15 21:10:50 UTC

What you are defining as science actually has a term, applied sciences

2017-07-15 21:10:55 UTC

It's kind of like philosophy in a way then, and I wouldn't call it a science

2017-07-15 21:13:58 UTC

Stuff like computer science, medicine, and engineering are called "applied science" and are often what most people uninvolved in STEM first think of when they hear "science," because it is tangible and relatively easy to understand how data on the field is collected and how it is used

2017-07-15 21:14:22 UTC

We must uphold the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism!

2017-07-15 21:15:46 UTC

It's kind of important though, I understand the shit sociology gets then

2017-07-15 21:15:55 UTC

Since from what I see it's near useless in every field

2017-07-15 21:17:40 UTC

It improves our understanding of society, and in my opinion there is no such thing as useless knowlege

2017-07-15 21:18:14 UTC

I'm more of the idea that you can understand society more if you know more about the individual, psychology deals with that

2017-07-15 21:19:04 UTC

And then of course you have the economic situation, religious aspect, I don't see where sociology really fits in

2017-07-15 21:19:05 UTC

The two are inseparable, as man is shaped by society.

2017-07-15 21:20:22 UTC

A large part of what man is depends on the society he's in

2017-07-15 21:21:52 UTC

And religion is most certainly very social, see evangelism, ancient rabbinic society, islamism, jim jones

2017-07-15 21:22:13 UTC

right, but I think a theologian would know more about religion than a sociologist

2017-07-15 21:24:23 UTC

Join VC niggers.

2017-07-15 21:26:33 UTC

I will in a sec

2017-07-16 16:51:19 UTC

jokes are banned tbh

2017-07-16 16:51:25 UTC

What a surprise

2017-07-16 16:51:50 UTC

Bunch of draconian cunts

2017-07-16 17:43:38 UTC

@Spice Meme#9320 that server is a piece of shit

2017-07-16 17:44:02 UTC

He left, what a fagget

2017-07-17 13:55:22 UTC

<:juif:336505691311177742>

2017-07-17 14:09:37 UTC

It begins.

2017-07-17 14:09:43 UTC

Is that the Debian logo?

2017-07-17 14:09:48 UTC

Your avi.

2017-07-18 00:50:02 UTC

Hey

2017-07-18 01:13:36 UTC

hello

2017-07-18 01:14:37 UTC

What's up?

2017-07-18 01:27:07 UTC

not much

2017-07-18 01:27:13 UTC

you?

2017-07-18 01:35:28 UTC

Nothing much

2017-07-18 01:35:55 UTC

Hiii

2017-07-18 01:41:09 UTC

hello

2017-07-18 01:41:17 UTC

so politics huh

2017-07-18 01:41:34 UTC

So how bout them Germans

2017-07-18 01:41:40 UTC

i mean

2017-07-18 01:41:54 UTC

as long as they don't gas asians

2017-07-18 01:41:56 UTC

Politics are fun

2017-07-18 01:41:59 UTC

true

2017-07-18 01:42:08 UTC

it's a meme to me tho

2017-07-18 01:43:54 UTC

Eh, I'm a communist but all my friends are right wingers. I try not to take things too seriously.

2017-07-18 01:44:54 UTC

@[SLG]Chairman Sqeek where you from?

2017-07-18 01:45:12 UTC

Alabama

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