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I'm betting he's american, the word science has different implications here
And saying we'd be eating rats without social science is somehow adding to any discussion
you think that's an actual argument?
Name me something you can do with sociology in this day and age
It's contributing evidence of social scientists functionality and benifits
And what is it that social scientists do that benefits humanity?
Urban planning, human geography
Urban planning? how?
We did it fine before social scientists
I don't see anything concrete you can do there
Urban planning is literally a field in STEM
sorry
how is urban planning linked to social science?
you too, go look up the word argument
I'd rather talk to void tbh, you seem a bit dim
Doesn't show
Understanding the way humans operate and settle is integral to planning infrastructure
Bickering isn't constructive, cut it out
and what has social science told us about how humans operate that was different than before the social scientists?
I can't think of anything really
The act of gaining knowledge from observation, studying natural phenomena, and analyzing it is the science
I mean more practical as in, what has changed in a city as a result of social scientists sharing their knowledge?
Stuff like how we've moved away from centralized city layouts
Streamlining production and convenience by developing districts
I thought architects did that
Architects design buildings
More than just building, they can design entire parts of cities
Urban planners deal with where they all are, how you get to them, the distances between them and different buildings
You see calling it a science is a stretch because it takes this long to come up with a somewhat disputed thing that they contribute
I'd call psychology a science before sociology
It's actually put into practice every day
They both fit under the definition of a science
I can see where the skepticism comes from, since it's pretty hard to point at something they really do
I'm sure they publish papers all the time, but how many are actually being put into practice?
I think an advertising bureau does more research and actually applies it
Science isn't defined by how often it's put into use. By this logic a physical cosmologist is not a scientist.
No but you can see why someone is skeptical of it
What you are defining as science actually has a term, applied sciences
It's kind of like philosophy in a way then, and I wouldn't call it a science
Stuff like computer science, medicine, and engineering are called "applied science" and are often what most people uninvolved in STEM first think of when they hear "science," because it is tangible and relatively easy to understand how data on the field is collected and how it is used