Message from @Soph

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2017-07-15 20:58:51 UTC  

Understanding the way humans operate and settle is integral to planning infrastructure

2017-07-15 20:59:25 UTC  

Bickering isn't constructive, cut it out

2017-07-15 20:59:30 UTC  

and what has social science told us about how humans operate that was different than before the social scientists?

2017-07-15 20:59:39 UTC  

I can't think of anything really

2017-07-15 20:59:53 UTC  

In practical terms

2017-07-15 21:00:17 UTC  

The act of gaining knowledge from observation, studying natural phenomena, and analyzing it is the science

2017-07-15 21:01:59 UTC  

I mean more practical as in, what has changed in a city as a result of social scientists sharing their knowledge?

2017-07-15 21:02:31 UTC  

Stuff like how we've moved away from centralized city layouts

2017-07-15 21:04:01 UTC  

Streamlining production and convenience by developing districts

2017-07-15 21:04:25 UTC  

I thought architects did that

2017-07-15 21:04:41 UTC  

Architects design buildings

2017-07-15 21:05:10 UTC  

More than just building, they can design entire parts of cities

2017-07-15 21:05:15 UTC  

Urban planners deal with where they all are, how you get to them, the distances between them and different buildings

2017-07-15 21:06:13 UTC  

You see calling it a science is a stretch because it takes this long to come up with a somewhat disputed thing that they contribute

2017-07-15 21:06:24 UTC  

I'd call psychology a science before sociology

2017-07-15 21:06:37 UTC  

It's actually put into practice every day

2017-07-15 21:07:10 UTC  

They both fit under the definition of a science

2017-07-15 21:08:26 UTC  

I can see where the skepticism comes from, since it's pretty hard to point at something they really do

2017-07-15 21:08:44 UTC  

I'm sure they publish papers all the time, but how many are actually being put into practice?

2017-07-15 21:09:01 UTC  

I think an advertising bureau does more research and actually applies it

2017-07-15 21:10:00 UTC  

Science isn't defined by how often it's put into use. By this logic a physical cosmologist is not a scientist.

2017-07-15 21:10:33 UTC  

No but you can see why someone is skeptical of it

2017-07-15 21:10:50 UTC  

What you are defining as science actually has a term, applied sciences

2017-07-15 21:10:55 UTC  

It's kind of like philosophy in a way then, and I wouldn't call it a science

2017-07-15 21:13:58 UTC  

Stuff like computer science, medicine, and engineering are called "applied science" and are often what most people uninvolved in STEM first think of when they hear "science," because it is tangible and relatively easy to understand how data on the field is collected and how it is used

2017-07-15 21:14:22 UTC  

We must uphold the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism!

2017-07-15 21:15:46 UTC  

It's kind of important though, I understand the shit sociology gets then

2017-07-15 21:15:55 UTC  

Since from what I see it's near useless in every field

2017-07-15 21:17:40 UTC  

It improves our understanding of society, and in my opinion there is no such thing as useless knowlege

2017-07-15 21:18:14 UTC  

I'm more of the idea that you can understand society more if you know more about the individual, psychology deals with that

2017-07-15 21:19:04 UTC  

And then of course you have the economic situation, religious aspect, I don't see where sociology really fits in

2017-07-15 21:19:05 UTC  

The two are inseparable, as man is shaped by society.

2017-07-15 21:20:22 UTC  

A large part of what man is depends on the society he's in

2017-07-15 21:21:52 UTC  

And religion is most certainly very social, see evangelism, ancient rabbinic society, islamism, jim jones

2017-07-15 21:22:13 UTC  

right, but I think a theologian would know more about religion than a sociologist

2017-07-15 21:24:23 UTC  

Join VC niggers.

2017-07-15 21:26:33 UTC  

I will in a sec

2017-07-16 16:51:19 UTC  

jokes are banned tbh

2017-07-16 16:51:25 UTC  

What a surprise

2017-07-16 16:51:50 UTC  

Bunch of draconian cunts