And saying we'd be eating rats without social science is somehow adding to any discussion

you think that's an actual argument?

Name me something you can do with sociology in this day and age

It's contributing evidence of social scientists functionality and benifits

And what is it that social scientists do that benefits humanity?

Urban planning, human geography

Urban planning? how?

We did it fine before social scientists

I don't see anything concrete you can do there

Urban planning is literally a field in STEM

sorry

how is urban planning linked to social science?

you too, go look up the word argument

I'd rather talk to void tbh, you seem a bit dim

Doesn't show

Understanding the way humans operate and settle is integral to planning infrastructure

Bickering isn't constructive, cut it out

and what has social science told us about how humans operate that was different than before the social scientists?

I can't think of anything really

In practical terms

The act of gaining knowledge from observation, studying natural phenomena, and analyzing it is the science

I mean more practical as in, what has changed in a city as a result of social scientists sharing their knowledge?

Stuff like how we've moved away from centralized city layouts

Streamlining production and convenience by developing districts

I thought architects did that

Architects design buildings

More than just building, they can design entire parts of cities

Urban planners deal with where they all are, how you get to them, the distances between them and different buildings

You see calling it a science is a stretch because it takes this long to come up with a somewhat disputed thing that they contribute

I'd call psychology a science before sociology

It's actually put into practice every day

They both fit under the definition of a science

I can see where the skepticism comes from, since it's pretty hard to point at something they really do

I'm sure they publish papers all the time, but how many are actually being put into practice?

I think an advertising bureau does more research and actually applies it

Science isn't defined by how often it's put into use. By this logic a physical cosmologist is not a scientist.

No but you can see why someone is skeptical of it

What you are defining as science actually has a term, applied sciences

It's kind of like philosophy in a way then, and I wouldn't call it a science

Stuff like computer science, medicine, and engineering are called "applied science" and are often what most people uninvolved in STEM first think of when they hear "science," because it is tangible and relatively easy to understand how data on the field is collected and how it is used

We must uphold the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism!