>british kunt

you cant even spell cunt you stupid slav

No wonder socialism failed in eastern europe

Actually the peoples republic of John succeeded under socialism

ive never heard of it

>not supporting general secretary tony blair

Are there any other Discords that discuss Marxist theory?

https://discord.gg/p2W6rD

INVITE EXPIRED

tf

https://discord.gg/72geet

?

Same thing. Could be a bug. Let me reload.

Still no good. Thanks for trying though.

maybe no nerds are allowed

ha

nerd

It's true.

Ah, apparently it's due to the ban settings on the server.

It will work if you revoke all bans from your server list.

@Deleted User There are servers. But very limited. Even I, Marxist-Leninist, feel lots of restrictions there and if you say something not according to the common uneducated believe you can be out in no time.

Hmmm, thanks. I will save myself the trouble. I noticed that even the larger servers like Unofficial Leftypol hardly have much discussion on serious and theory discussion. That's okay, I can focus my energies here. Like always, I just wanted to be thorough.

@Deleted User ML servers do have some theory, but they are for MLs.

There is a /pol server with like 1k people online.

Trump company server

Disgusting. I do not browse /pol/ anymore.

@Deleted User I do. Sometimes there is something nice in there. But with every month less and less intellectual discussion, more and more memeing.

I suppose I have a different perspective. I visited that place everyday for 6 months. I am jaded.

Same happened with Russian imageboards last year.

It was so much fun when internet was young and every single new user was educated, professional and friendly.

Not anymore

maybe we should create an intranet with 500$ entrance fee.

For what purpose? Entitled little shitheads can just use daddy's credit card.

@Deleted User it is not the best idea. But we've passed good times and new generation won't even see it.

I share that sentiment. What can be learn? The sticky little fingers of the youth ruin everything? Like everything today, it is trivial and not taken seriously. The meaning of life in the modern life is to do pleasant things and laugh, sucking on the tit of capitalism.

@Deleted User the level of narcissism is also unspeakable. Now they take pictures of food. Not only themselves.

One thing I like reading about Lenin is that when he realised that the masses were not capable, he took it upon himself to direct a suitable path.

Infantile society has to go already. It is a good time to let it go.

@Deleted User Marx realized it first. Just he was not a good organizer.

It seems clear that this is the correct course of action.

Even Lenin did lots of infantile mistakes.

But with new generation of communists we will mature.

@Firefly What do you mean, mistakes?

@Deleted User Do you know they surrendered the army and police and all the government hierarchies at first.

Took them couple of years to rebuild.

They tried to organize it as it would be a commune.

At first. But the Bolsheviks did learn and adapt. Stalin became the embodiment of this.

@Deleted User Right, but many mistakes were made in the process.

@Firefly Yes, many mistakes. But at least they were not too dogmatic, like the silly SocDems.

@Deleted User Did you know they let white army officers and soldiers free after capturing them? Sometimes 3 times the same people.

Who just went back and grabbed a gun.

You can learn a lot from their experience. Compassion can be a vice when it goes against reason.

Now we shouldn't let anybody go.

Unless they swear Allegiance to the Party.

@Deleted User Unless, yes.

@Firefly And so, back to the problem of the masses ruining it for themselves. It seems the answer has already been written. It seems the Party has to steer the boat back on course.

@Deleted User right

Also, just so you know. I am not a Fascist anymore. I am past the point of no return and cannot go back.

@Deleted User I judge every topic or matter case by case. Many people with incorrect ideology might have correct thoughts. Many people with correct ideology might have been fucked in the head. Lenin said communists have a huge amount of crazy and stupid people, but somewhat less than any other. Also he wrote that some well educated idealist is a better target for cooperation than an idiot materialist or leftiest.

That's a pretty smart policy. At least you are not blind to the reality like a religious person. It is important to see the difference between the ideology and being able to execute it well. Unlike some dogmatists who give anyone with the same ideology a free pass.

Oj firefly

@Firefly Is this the reason why you allow free speech?

What is your ideology if you have a certain one?

@Deleted User I think there should be a combination of hard, almost absolute hierarchy for the government and Party and all related structures and a lot of freedom for common man.

@Hezbolshevik I'm a liberal Marxist-Leninist anti-opportunist anti-revisionist with some right tendencies.

@Firefly What about the individual that speaks out against the collective good?

@Deleted User They have to be fought hard on an intellectual, information level.

@Firefly I'm assuming you're not too fond of stalin?

@Hezbolshevik You can call me Stalinist.

Ok good

Because I'm an MLM that obsesses over stalin, not that I refuse to speak to anybody anti stalin

@Deleted User I have often thought about how to deal with religion and religious thinking, it seems an iron fist does not work very well. I think there is some good reasons to pursue an intellectual approach. However there are many people who cannot be convinced with arguments. A lot of Americans (USA) I have spoken to are some of the most stubborn and dogmatic people I have ever met. In this example, it seems almost impossible to get through to them with only arguments. It seems what little intellect they have is shielded from any reason or appeal.

@Deleted User what is it that you belive

Thought is not only intellectual, it is embedded in people's nervous systems.

As in ideology

@Hezbolshevik I am an ex-Fascist lost in the wilderness.

@Deleted User That is true, but what is that an idiot can do against the Party?

let him speak nonsense. Let people see who is our opposition

Thats what Putin does to opposition.

It lets it be and enjoys the outcome

@Firefly Russia has a strong history of intellectuals. This is not the case in the land of Trump voters.

@Deleted User The Party has to be firstly the Intellectual Leader and only after administrative.

It has to crush opposition with intellect.

If strong ideas are all you need, why does religion still exist? Has the ideas just not been pushed hard enough?

@Deleted User Religion dropped to 5-7% in Soviet Union just after the educational system allowed scientific world-view.

I'm not sure about exact numbers

Now it grows back rapidly. Muslim regions doing the fastest fall.

Albania restricted religion under Hoxha

Yes, but the Soviet Union used Terror tactics to attack religion, not only intellect.

Muslims grow there faster than in Russia now

So Enver Hoxha successfully restricted religion for a time of his life.

And I do approve. But there are different less radical ways

That also do work.

So then the crushing of religious thought needs constant pressure because the moment you relax it rebounds quickly.

@Deleted User The educational system has to provide an access to scientific worldview. If you have time this is more than enough, I think. If you don't have time you should do whatever by any means necessary.

More radical are actions more radical the resistance.

As long as the education is rigorous and strict, I can see this working.

You don't want to have resistance on something what can be completely avoided.

Additional problems

Especially in education.

Did you read Dzerzhinsky?

How very Sun Tzu.

He was writing about educational system.

@Firefly Yes I read Dzerzhinsky.

@Deleted User He is very well known for the use of a hard discipline in education. He made scientists and artists out of homeless kids who could not read.

That's beautiful.

Why Che facepalms?

I thought it looked like he was crying?

Wrong chat

@Hezbolshevik here is a better place anyway.

@Deleted User What did you read from Dzerzhinski?

@Firefly What you linked me. http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSDzerzhinsky.htm

I should read full biography. https://archive.org/stream/FelixDzerzhinskyABiography/FD_djvu.txt

@Deleted User that link sounds like the script to a comedy

It is from Progress Publishers so it must be good.

@Deleted User https://www.amazon.com/Communist-Morality-Felix-Dzerzhinsky/dp/1467902950

Was looking for collection of his works in English and didn't find

He has two tomes

Very easy if you know Russian http://fdzerzhinsky.narod.ru/1biblioteka.htm

21 percent of common russian literature i can understand, I mean words in it

I wish I could have such a simplistic view of the world (in response to the last pic @Firefly posted)

Definetly not good enough

@Hezbolshevik I can read Serb and Bulgarian 50-60%

But that is not enough

Slavic languages typically are very close

I know plently of cognates with serbian because i listen to so much yugoslav war music

@Firefly What is the other book called, Prison Diaries?

@Deleted User He went thought Russian prison system as most Russian communists did. Sort of no-cuckold training.

He been in prison so much time that he wrote things in there. Not as important as his works on education.

Of the many towering and terrifying figures of that remarkable era of the Soviet Revolution, the bent, gaunt and soft-spoken form of Felix Dzershinsky may be overlooked amongst the stern and charismatic Lenins, or the vicious Stalins. This would be a mistake. Armed with a will that earned him the nickname 'Iron Felix', and an unshakeable commitment to the cause that impressed, and often unnerved, all who met him, Felix was the revolutions shining Knight, the ideal to which all others should climb. He was also put in charge of the nascent Soviet Secret Police (the CHEKA, later the KGB), and under his command would instigate a reign of terror and intimidation, the aftershocks of which have yet to subside.
These diaries no doubt suffered under the hands of Soviet censor, but even a fascinating picture of the man emerges. The brutal prisons of the Czar in which he toiled for nearly eleven years were clearly instrumental in transforming the idealistic if rabidly dogmatic young man into something purer, harder and ultimately more terrible. His long, flowering letters to his wife, his sister and his friends eventually become terse, bitter correspondences repeating again and again that he can add nothing, nothing has happened, nothing has changed. His psychology was a mix of youthful idealism tempered and focused by adult traumas into a merciless sword for the cause, quite typical of that generation of revolutionaries.
He was a powerful ally, but Heaven help you if you fell into his hands.
A fascinating glimpse into this important and, in the West, critical overlooked figure of Eastern European history.'

>I thought it looked like he was crying?

Could be both.

Hello comrades

@Deleted User welcome to our channel, comrade! Feel free to icepick anybody.

Icepicketh

@JeffJEFFGEOFF Now I found you, Jeff.

hi

@Mabasei welcome to the broader leftiest community.

what kind of leftists

are we all neoliberals here

@gothra Western type of leftiest for now.

I am a Marxist-Leninist

I'm a strasserite or hoxhaist

@Deleted User and me too

Yeah

https://gyazo.com/ea96f5d6c6a28017255c7074e6a809ef

I had forgotten

@Firefly Are you the owner?

Mind if I invite some tankie friends?

invite real tanks

@Deleted User I'm. Please do.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260522003042140162/314431046257213440/FB_IMG_1495001523787.jpg

@Beneki Ну вот

Я вижу тебя

Hello world.

Это какая-то политическая конфа?

Чувствуй себя как дома.

Ага

Не уверен, что выдержу уныние столь глубокое.

Ты смог на дваче-конфе, сможешь и тут.

Ну там хотя бы не было политики.

Чики брики тоже

@Beneki Тебе может быть и комсомолки не нравятся?

На данный момент у меня мальчик.

Но вообще... нравятся.

@Beneki У нас таких пол конфы, как ты совсем.

Не удивительно.

Я не говорим вас/ваш по-китайский

@Hezbolshevik Ю донт спик ауэр чайниз?

Ар ю тотали инсейн?

Вай нот?

That is an abuse of azbuka

@Hezbolshevik Ю донт ноу ми! Ю ар аскинг фор итъ!

Ват?

@Hezbolshevik "итъ"

Тебя аутизм?

@Hezbolshevik What language do you speak?

Английский

Ар ю траинг ту майндфак ми эгейн?

И плохой русском

It is not too bad.

When was the last time i tried to mind fuck you and why are you speaking english in cyrillic

Besides the fact i could barely understand if you spoke those words in Russian

@Hezbolshevik Ит из интерестинг иф ю ар гоинг ту андерстенд ми.

That's what i call politics.

Файн, ит из беттер фор моя азбука ридинг скьлс

@Hezbolshevik зет из абсолют оусомнесс вот ю жаст дид

Донт листен ту хим, зет воз асонишингли хоррибл.

Question: Is Buddhism compatible with Marxism?

@Deleted User I was Buddhist before becoming Marxist.

It depends on the type of Buddhism. Some is compatible.

Спикинг инглиш эн азбука из хоррибл

@Hezbolshevik донт ноу абаут зет. Фииилс гууууд

Филс аутистик

Из ит вот у южуали ду хир, гайс? Ол зе тайм?

@Deleted User One Hindu guy wrote a book about compatibility of Buddhism and Marxism. But he did a very horrible job. I read it online.

Ай майт си майселф инту ит.

Нет, я не молодец

@Beneki ит из э грейт тайм инвестмент май фриэнд

Это не молодец*

Гет реди ту тейк оф, гет рейди ту шейк оф ол зе гилти чейнс...

Не волнуйтесь, все будет хорошо.

Нет, иди нахуй это рак

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjyGIgl5D5Q

Большой рак

Jao jadno bosno suverena

@Hezbolshevik Ар ю ориджинали фром Босния, товарищ?

Босния это Сербия?

Югославия?

Но

Я Американский

Я из мишигане

@Hezbolshevik я тоже американский.

Зэриз э дигрии ту эврисинк

Где дос зиз релайт?

@Hezbolshevik Май фриенд, зис ис олреди олмост файв ин зе морнинг, ай хэф ту гоу слип нау. Си ю тумороу.

Гуднайт

I've studied diamat this weekend. Total fucking waste of time.

Dialectic materialism is, in essence, just like Wordpress theme development.

With about the same cognitive demand

@Firefly Kek, you got kicked

@Deleted User again? Oh no.

From leninist front

thats what happens when you harass people with rape you piece of scum

@aleks you are still welcome here.

i'm leaving anyway, i do not want to be affiliated with you in anyway. you're a sorry excuse for a communist

good riddance

Hope you come back. Good luck.

lol

i love your sarcasm

@Firefly Didn't Russia look more like an anarchist federation (with councils) than people with an unified party? I think this breaks the myth that we need a strong leader and party to get the power. Also, didn't Stalin want democratic reforms like pulling the new constitution?

TIL the USSR was an anarchist federation with non anarchist characteristics

@Firefly what happened? kek

@Prometheus They had assemblies with Lenin yes

This is wanted by anarchists

But pro-Stalin people, and Lenin too considered the ban on factions, as it was needed

seems that Stalin wasn't be able to restore a complete democratic reform

im slowly disaccociating myself with anarchism

and I criticize this, I think we need to go this way directly

Marxism Leninism is state capitalism