Message from @Firefly

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2017-05-21 06:21:55 UTC  

@Deleted User I think there should be a combination of hard, almost absolute hierarchy for the government and Party and all related structures and a lot of freedom for common man.

2017-05-21 06:22:50 UTC  

@Hezbolshevik I'm a liberal Marxist-Leninist anti-opportunist anti-revisionist with some right tendencies.

2017-05-21 06:23:10 UTC  

@Firefly What about the individual that speaks out against the collective good?

2017-05-21 06:23:47 UTC  

@Deleted User They have to be fought hard on an intellectual, information level.

2017-05-21 06:23:56 UTC  

@Firefly I'm assuming you're not too fond of stalin?

2017-05-21 06:24:13 UTC  

@Hezbolshevik You can call me Stalinist.

2017-05-21 06:24:24 UTC  

Ok good

2017-05-21 06:24:58 UTC  

Because I'm an MLM that obsesses over stalin, not that I refuse to speak to anybody anti stalin

2017-05-21 06:25:37 UTC  

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2017-05-21 06:27:52 UTC  

@Deleted User I have often thought about how to deal with religion and religious thinking, it seems an iron fist does not work very well. I think there is some good reasons to pursue an intellectual approach. However there are many people who cannot be convinced with arguments. A lot of Americans (USA) I have spoken to are some of the most stubborn and dogmatic people I have ever met. In this example, it seems almost impossible to get through to them with only arguments. It seems what little intellect they have is shielded from any reason or appeal.

2017-05-21 06:29:30 UTC  

@Deleted User what is it that you belive

2017-05-21 06:29:33 UTC  

Thought is not only intellectual, it is embedded in people's nervous systems.

2017-05-21 06:29:54 UTC  

As in ideology

2017-05-21 06:29:57 UTC  

@Hezbolshevik I am an ex-Fascist lost in the wilderness.

2017-05-21 06:31:05 UTC  

@Deleted User That is true, but what is that an idiot can do against the Party?

2017-05-21 06:31:40 UTC  

let him speak nonsense. Let people see who is our opposition

2017-05-21 06:31:53 UTC  

Thats what Putin does to opposition.

2017-05-21 06:32:04 UTC  

It lets it be and enjoys the outcome

2017-05-21 06:33:46 UTC  

@Firefly Russia has a strong history of intellectuals. This is not the case in the land of Trump voters.

2017-05-21 06:34:32 UTC  

@Deleted User The Party has to be firstly the Intellectual Leader and only after administrative.

2017-05-21 06:34:56 UTC  

It has to crush opposition with intellect.

2017-05-21 06:36:39 UTC  

If strong ideas are all you need, why does religion still exist? Has the ideas just not been pushed hard enough?

2017-05-21 06:37:34 UTC  

@Deleted User Religion dropped to 5-7% in Soviet Union just after the educational system allowed scientific world-view.

2017-05-21 06:37:46 UTC  

I'm not sure about exact numbers

2017-05-21 06:38:17 UTC  

Now it grows back rapidly. Muslim regions doing the fastest fall.

2017-05-21 06:38:57 UTC  

Albania restricted religion under Hoxha

2017-05-21 06:39:05 UTC  

Yes, but the Soviet Union used Terror tactics to attack religion, not only intellect.

2017-05-21 06:39:10 UTC  

Muslims grow there faster than in Russia now

2017-05-21 06:39:56 UTC  

So Enver Hoxha successfully restricted religion for a time of his life.

2017-05-21 06:40:16 UTC  

And I do approve. But there are different less radical ways

2017-05-21 06:40:22 UTC  

That also do work.

2017-05-21 06:42:03 UTC  

So then the crushing of religious thought needs constant pressure because the moment you relax it rebounds quickly.

2017-05-21 06:43:31 UTC  

@Deleted User The educational system has to provide an access to scientific worldview. If you have time this is more than enough, I think. If you don't have time you should do whatever by any means necessary.

2017-05-21 06:45:31 UTC  

More radical are actions more radical the resistance.

2017-05-21 06:45:46 UTC  

As long as the education is rigorous and strict, I can see this working.

2017-05-21 06:46:06 UTC  

You don't want to have resistance on something what can be completely avoided.

2017-05-21 06:46:13 UTC  

Additional problems

2017-05-21 06:46:28 UTC  

Especially in education.

2017-05-21 06:46:36 UTC  

Did you read Dzerzhinsky?

2017-05-21 06:46:43 UTC  

How very Sun Tzu.

2017-05-21 06:46:51 UTC  

He was writing about educational system.