Infantile society has to go already. It is a good time to let it go.

@Deleted User Marx realized it first. Just he was not a good organizer.

It seems clear that this is the correct course of action.

Even Lenin did lots of infantile mistakes.

But with new generation of communists we will mature.

@Firefly What do you mean, mistakes?

@Deleted User Do you know they surrendered the army and police and all the government hierarchies at first.

Took them couple of years to rebuild.

They tried to organize it as it would be a commune.

At first. But the Bolsheviks did learn and adapt. Stalin became the embodiment of this.

@Deleted User Right, but many mistakes were made in the process.

@Firefly Yes, many mistakes. But at least they were not too dogmatic, like the silly SocDems.

@Deleted User Did you know they let white army officers and soldiers free after capturing them? Sometimes 3 times the same people.

Who just went back and grabbed a gun.

You can learn a lot from their experience. Compassion can be a vice when it goes against reason.

Now we shouldn't let anybody go.

Unless they swear Allegiance to the Party.

@Deleted User Unless, yes.

@Firefly And so, back to the problem of the masses ruining it for themselves. It seems the answer has already been written. It seems the Party has to steer the boat back on course.

@Deleted User right

Also, just so you know. I am not a Fascist anymore. I am past the point of no return and cannot go back.

@Deleted User I judge every topic or matter case by case. Many people with incorrect ideology might have correct thoughts. Many people with correct ideology might have been fucked in the head. Lenin said communists have a huge amount of crazy and stupid people, but somewhat less than any other. Also he wrote that some well educated idealist is a better target for cooperation than an idiot materialist or leftiest.

That's a pretty smart policy. At least you are not blind to the reality like a religious person. It is important to see the difference between the ideology and being able to execute it well. Unlike some dogmatists who give anyone with the same ideology a free pass.

Oj firefly

@Firefly Is this the reason why you allow free speech?

What is your ideology if you have a certain one?

@Deleted User I think there should be a combination of hard, almost absolute hierarchy for the government and Party and all related structures and a lot of freedom for common man.

@Hezbolshevik I'm a liberal Marxist-Leninist anti-opportunist anti-revisionist with some right tendencies.

@Firefly What about the individual that speaks out against the collective good?

@Deleted User They have to be fought hard on an intellectual, information level.

@Firefly I'm assuming you're not too fond of stalin?

@Hezbolshevik You can call me Stalinist.

Ok good

Because I'm an MLM that obsesses over stalin, not that I refuse to speak to anybody anti stalin

@Deleted User I have often thought about how to deal with religion and religious thinking, it seems an iron fist does not work very well. I think there is some good reasons to pursue an intellectual approach. However there are many people who cannot be convinced with arguments. A lot of Americans (USA) I have spoken to are some of the most stubborn and dogmatic people I have ever met. In this example, it seems almost impossible to get through to them with only arguments. It seems what little intellect they have is shielded from any reason or appeal.

@Deleted User what is it that you belive

Thought is not only intellectual, it is embedded in people's nervous systems.

As in ideology