Message from @Firefly

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2017-05-21 06:29:30 UTC  

@Deleted User what is it that you belive

2017-05-21 06:29:33 UTC  

Thought is not only intellectual, it is embedded in people's nervous systems.

2017-05-21 06:29:54 UTC  

As in ideology

2017-05-21 06:29:57 UTC  

@Hezbolshevik I am an ex-Fascist lost in the wilderness.

2017-05-21 06:31:05 UTC  

@Deleted User That is true, but what is that an idiot can do against the Party?

2017-05-21 06:31:40 UTC  

let him speak nonsense. Let people see who is our opposition

2017-05-21 06:31:53 UTC  

Thats what Putin does to opposition.

2017-05-21 06:32:04 UTC  

It lets it be and enjoys the outcome

2017-05-21 06:33:46 UTC  

@Firefly Russia has a strong history of intellectuals. This is not the case in the land of Trump voters.

2017-05-21 06:34:32 UTC  

@Deleted User The Party has to be firstly the Intellectual Leader and only after administrative.

2017-05-21 06:34:56 UTC  

It has to crush opposition with intellect.

2017-05-21 06:36:39 UTC  

If strong ideas are all you need, why does religion still exist? Has the ideas just not been pushed hard enough?

2017-05-21 06:37:34 UTC  

@Deleted User Religion dropped to 5-7% in Soviet Union just after the educational system allowed scientific world-view.

2017-05-21 06:37:46 UTC  

I'm not sure about exact numbers

2017-05-21 06:38:17 UTC  

Now it grows back rapidly. Muslim regions doing the fastest fall.

2017-05-21 06:38:57 UTC  

Albania restricted religion under Hoxha

2017-05-21 06:39:05 UTC  

Yes, but the Soviet Union used Terror tactics to attack religion, not only intellect.

2017-05-21 06:39:10 UTC  

Muslims grow there faster than in Russia now

2017-05-21 06:39:56 UTC  

So Enver Hoxha successfully restricted religion for a time of his life.

2017-05-21 06:40:16 UTC  

And I do approve. But there are different less radical ways

2017-05-21 06:40:22 UTC  

That also do work.

2017-05-21 06:42:03 UTC  

So then the crushing of religious thought needs constant pressure because the moment you relax it rebounds quickly.

2017-05-21 06:43:31 UTC  

@Deleted User The educational system has to provide an access to scientific worldview. If you have time this is more than enough, I think. If you don't have time you should do whatever by any means necessary.

2017-05-21 06:45:31 UTC  

More radical are actions more radical the resistance.

2017-05-21 06:45:46 UTC  

As long as the education is rigorous and strict, I can see this working.

2017-05-21 06:46:06 UTC  

You don't want to have resistance on something what can be completely avoided.

2017-05-21 06:46:13 UTC  

Additional problems

2017-05-21 06:46:28 UTC  

Especially in education.

2017-05-21 06:46:36 UTC  

Did you read Dzerzhinsky?

2017-05-21 06:46:43 UTC  

How very Sun Tzu.

2017-05-21 06:46:51 UTC  

He was writing about educational system.

2017-05-21 06:46:56 UTC  

@Firefly Yes I read Dzerzhinsky.

2017-05-21 06:48:15 UTC  

@Deleted User He is very well known for the use of a hard discipline in education. He made scientists and artists out of homeless kids who could not read.

2017-05-21 06:50:52 UTC  

That's beautiful.

2017-05-21 06:51:00 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/315743264051429378/cheviet3.jpg

2017-05-21 06:51:38 UTC  

Why Che facepalms?

2017-05-21 06:51:56 UTC  

I thought it looked like he was crying?

2017-05-21 06:52:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/315743562027499520/klasbor.jpg

2017-05-21 06:52:48 UTC  

Wrong chat

2017-05-21 06:53:18 UTC  

@Hezbolshevik here is a better place anyway.

2017-05-21 06:53:49 UTC  

@Deleted User What did you read from Dzerzhinski?