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2017-05-13 06:42:55 UTC

Productive forces including technology

2017-05-13 06:43:20 UTC

Indeed, most can be automated, performed by machines.

2017-05-13 06:44:05 UTC

In the USA, for example, there is already a law firm that wants to handle many lawyerโ€™s tasks by bots which will reduce the costs tremendously.

2017-05-13 06:44:25 UTC

It stands to reason that the more humans are like technology, the faster the social progress.

2017-05-13 06:44:39 UTC

Also, the case of the AI working together who have created an own computer language to facilitate communication amongst them.

2017-05-13 06:45:23 UTC

Capitalism hols us back because people must be kept worrying about how to survive everyday.

2017-05-13 06:46:03 UTC

@Tenta he likes the idea of stressing people.

2017-05-13 06:46:32 UTC

Yes, because under capitalism society has less productive forces overall, as they are collected by the ruling class only.

2017-05-13 06:47:25 UTC

@Firefly , whom do you mean?

2017-05-13 06:47:45 UTC

@Tenta your new fascist friend.

2017-05-13 06:49:24 UTC

That is? Maybe Iโ€™m a bit slow now. I donโ€™t feel stressed right now.

2017-05-13 06:49:54 UTC

Fast transformation can be stressful.

2017-05-13 06:50:03 UTC

See

2017-05-13 06:51:09 UTC

I like fast. It was predetermined.

2017-05-13 06:52:09 UTC

And why should I feel stressed?

2017-05-13 06:53:15 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyO_-oDtvGU German song praising Lenin as the great moderniser of technology and society.

2017-05-13 06:54:36 UTC

Wow, thatโ€™s a cute version, and even with an English translation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEZJXI-IQS4

2017-05-13 06:54:54 UTC

When the Quantitative change is predictable, Qualitative change is stressful. If you don't think it is, then the Quality isn't changing enough.

2017-05-13 06:58:28 UTC

The 'you' of yesterday is not the 'you' of today or tomorrow.

2017-05-13 06:59:04 UTC

@Tenta What do you think? Should change come faster or slower, or it doesn't matter?

2017-05-13 07:01:08 UTC

Right now, nearly every advance is exploited under capitalism and poses new hardships on people.

2017-05-13 07:01:26 UTC

"the process of development from the lower to the higher takes place not as a harmonious unfolding of phenomena, but ...as a "struggle" of opposite tendencies which operate on the basis of these contradictions."

2017-05-13 07:01:41 UTC

Wew

2017-05-13 07:02:57 UTC

It is interesting the use of 'lower' and 'higher' development. Does lower always move into higher?

2017-05-13 07:04:25 UTC

@Tenta And then "When a given style of production relations no longer supports further progress in the productive forces, either further progress is strangled, or 'revolution' must occur."?

2017-05-13 07:05:11 UTC

Stagnation or revolution.

2017-05-13 07:10:13 UTC

Does anyone know if 'Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism'
by Otto Kuusinen is avaliable to read online?

2017-05-13 07:13:20 UTC

Is it Party-approved material?

2017-05-13 07:17:16 UTC

"Hence, the transition from capitalism to socialism and the liberation of the working class from the yoke of capitalism cannot be effected by slow changes, by reforms, but only by a qualitative change of the capitalist system, by revolution."

2017-05-13 07:17:23 UTC

Based Stalin.

2017-05-13 07:28:49 UTC

"the spiritual life of society is a reflection of this objective reality" Therefore the easier it is to imagine revolution the closer it is in reality

2017-05-13 07:34:30 UTC

Why don't you read Anti-During?

2017-05-13 07:34:42 UTC
2017-05-13 07:35:28 UTC

Its one of the best intro. Better than manifesto I think

2017-05-13 13:44:23 UTC

@everyone invite more people to this channel https://discord.gg/9sJ5QUJ

2017-05-13 13:45:33 UTC

Share the link with friends and random networks.

2017-05-13 15:32:37 UTC

CAn i bring a bunch of hard core anti-disestablishment pipe hittin niggas i konw from atlanta

2017-05-13 15:39:53 UTC

@OF-8 , why not? Just give them the link above.

2017-05-13 21:24:17 UTC

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2017-05-13 23:23:48 UTC

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2017-05-14 00:29:41 UTC

Welcome, newcomers!

2017-05-14 00:52:49 UTC

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2017-05-14 00:53:21 UTC

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2017-05-14 00:58:49 UTC

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2017-05-14 00:59:10 UTC

we need arrivals channel

2017-05-14 01:01:14 UTC

Why? ^__^

2017-05-14 01:06:33 UTC

@Ladle It is unrestricted channel. You don't need even to register

2017-05-14 01:06:57 UTC

any anonymous can join and participate

2017-05-14 01:14:24 UTC

okay

2017-05-14 01:18:35 UTC

Do we have a good introductory reading list for Marxism?

2017-05-14 01:21:17 UTC

@Deleted User we have many of them. What would you like to read about?

2017-05-14 01:21:42 UTC

Marxism. <:caring:312066184948350976>

2017-05-14 01:24:16 UTC

Thats too great of a topic. Can you specify your interest?

2017-05-14 01:25:27 UTC

How do I serve the anti-imperialism?

2017-05-14 01:32:40 UTC

@Deleted User the first book had a huge influence on Fidel Castro and many many other leaders.

2017-05-14 01:33:22 UTC

Castro and Mao did the revolution after reading.

2017-05-14 01:33:35 UTC

Must be good

2017-05-14 01:33:58 UTC

Thanks for narrowing down. I prefer to read little and understand a lot, than read a lot and understand little.

2017-05-14 01:34:21 UTC

Yeh, I remember Hitler writing that

2017-05-14 01:49:45 UTC

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2017-05-14 02:19:08 UTC

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2017-05-14 02:22:47 UTC

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2017-05-14 02:23:53 UTC

@OF-8 welcome to politically incorrect!

2017-05-14 02:24:11 UTC

`oh hy

2017-05-14 02:24:21 UTC

Yeet

2017-05-14 02:32:24 UTC

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2017-05-14 02:35:00 UTC

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2017-05-14 02:36:23 UTC

@Firefly
Social justice can actually be a poison to communism?

2017-05-14 02:36:33 UTC

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2017-05-14 02:37:03 UTC

@.... SJW are the main reason we don't have a powerful party.

2017-05-14 02:37:49 UTC

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2017-05-14 02:37:58 UTC

Hi kids.

2017-05-14 02:38:02 UTC

Interesting new approach. The last people I've seen argue in that way have been Sargon of Akkad and George Orwell.

2017-05-14 02:38:27 UTC

@John Doe welcome to our community.

2017-05-14 02:38:49 UTC

Ty

2017-05-14 02:38:50 UTC

@.... don't forget Lenin, yes?

2017-05-14 02:38:53 UTC

IGP Represent

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/313143103194398720/guyanistparty2.jpg

2017-05-14 02:39:26 UTC

@Firefly
Aside from the politically active advocates who contributed significantly to numerous economic Revolutions throughout the world.

2017-05-14 02:40:05 UTC

SJWs are pretty insignificant.

2017-05-14 02:40:06 UTC

They're an obvious group, but it's been a long time since I've last seen conflict between Leftists and Communists.

2017-05-14 02:40:23 UTC

@John Doe
True dat

2017-05-14 02:40:54 UTC

Microaggressions are literally nothing in comparison to issues that affect the very economic foundation of society.

2017-05-14 02:43:38 UTC

@Firefly Mao Zedong, good or bad?

2017-05-14 02:44:14 UTC

@.... we evolve into authoritarian and anti-authoritarian branches, obviously. Time to part away from childish abominations.

2017-05-14 02:45:41 UTC

@Firefly
So it's not just libertarian fascism that's accumulating on the Right to push forward an effective political strategy.

2017-05-14 02:46:15 UTC

@Deleted User Mao didn't know much about theory, but maintained few correct lines and policies. Like anti-revisionism and anti-opportunism. But failed in many at the same time. I support Mao, but with a lot of but.

2017-05-14 02:46:26 UTC

the fact that those two words even exist together shows how fucked up it is @....

2017-05-14 02:46:26 UTC

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2017-05-14 02:46:54 UTC

@Ladifour he is libertarian.

2017-05-14 02:46:56 UTC

@Ladifour
Well, it's essentially property rights on steroids.

2017-05-14 02:47:15 UTC

No, acid more like.

2017-05-14 02:48:49 UTC

Haha

2017-05-14 02:55:35 UTC

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2017-05-14 03:00:23 UTC

@.... I agree. I think "microagressions" are a perfect example of how the left has gone from helping disenfranchised groups advance to using shame/guilt tactics (which ironically means they focus on the whites/straights/males rather than the groups they are supposed to be helping advance).

2017-05-14 03:01:47 UTC

@Santa Claauz
I believe we'd actually make more progress on debating real issues if we just got rid of these trivial degenerates from the platform first.

2017-05-14 03:01:50 UTC

Do you believe there is a difference between how the old left saw advancement of minority groups and the new "idpol"

Or is any focus on a group besides the working class just a form of idpol

2017-05-14 03:02:17 UTC

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