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2018-10-27 00:46:49 UTC

You guys have heard โ€œdonโ€™t punch right?โ€

2018-10-27 00:47:13 UTC

My new thing is โ€œdonโ€™t punch whiteโ€

2018-10-27 00:47:22 UTC

We are here for ideas, not personal characteristics. We build from a cohesive ideology and that is built from all aspects of our side.

2018-10-27 00:47:24 UTC

i'd like to setup a publishing company but i'm still working on a kernel for a long term vision

2018-10-27 00:47:59 UTC

Arktos is also good from what i've seen

2018-10-27 00:48:01 UTC

Greg is solid overall. He understands his role as an intellectual and would thus never try to co-opt IE.

2018-10-27 00:48:23 UTC

I understand that heโ€™s controversial for various reasons, though.

2018-10-27 00:48:48 UTC

This meme is great ๐Ÿ˜‚

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/505543353459277845/20181026_174736.jpg

2018-10-27 00:49:20 UTC

surprised cynthia mckinney made it on to heel turn today lmao

2018-10-27 00:49:39 UTC

Haha. Sheโ€™s crazy

2018-10-27 00:49:39 UTC

Heelturn gang gang

2018-10-27 00:49:41 UTC

Thoughts on Eric Striker?

2018-10-27 00:50:02 UTC

Iโ€™m not anti Striker

2018-10-27 00:50:36 UTC

Strike and Mike has gone off the rails a bit.

2018-10-27 00:50:42 UTC

@Galaxidus his intellect is unmatched as far as I've seen.

2018-10-27 00:50:58 UTC

Striker is a good man, shame to see him and Jochim split

2018-10-27 00:51:03 UTC

So bad news, the hurricane made my really good job be post poned for a year or so

Good news is that I now work at an all HuWhite molecular genetics firm

2018-10-27 00:51:54 UTC

Striker is intelligent and friendly but his strategic outlook is really off, unless itโ€™s changed. Less than a year ago, he argued that weโ€™d all โ€œfall in lineโ€ behind Heimbach eventuallyโ€”right...

2018-10-27 00:52:02 UTC

His commentary on the halsey and Duke debate on JFs stream a few months ago was the best thing I've possibly ever heard.

2018-10-27 00:52:23 UTC

Also communism is gay.

2018-10-27 00:52:55 UTC

I've found Striker to be a lot less convincing, but maybe I'm focusing too much on fiddly things like "details" and "accuracy"

2018-10-27 00:53:03 UTC

Didnt Striker disavow his communist begginings \

2018-10-27 00:53:39 UTC

@Nemets I dont think so, He identifies as a NatSoc

2018-10-27 00:53:47 UTC

Roman statecraft, Germanic engineering, Greek philosophy - Erik Striker
hands down the best characterization of Europeans as a whole.

2018-10-27 00:54:21 UTC

@Galaxidus he claims to be third positionist

2018-10-27 00:54:48 UTC

he's just a NatSoc that doesn't call himself a NatSoc

2018-10-27 00:55:07 UTC

@Krypto- OH NatSoc and Fascism and general fall into third positionist

2018-10-27 00:55:34 UTC

When cultured Thug was on he confronted Striker about his NatSoc identity

2018-10-27 00:56:03 UTC

@Galaxidus maybe to us, but to them it actually is pretty complex

2018-10-27 00:56:16 UTC

Striker is way ahead of himself. And everyone else.

2018-10-27 00:57:27 UTC

with respect: third positionism is just a new way to say Fascist/NatSoc without triggering the other person

2018-10-27 00:57:27 UTC

@Krypto- OH Can you explain?

2018-10-27 00:58:17 UTC

while third position _can_ refer to other ideas, with Westerners it is most often used in reference to Fash/NS

2018-10-27 00:58:33 UTC

NatSoc is a form of fascism, it was Germany's unique form of it

2018-10-27 00:58:48 UTC

@Salo Saloson Not necessarily. I consider third position specifically an economic term, not one that implies a particular system of government. I also use national capitalist when talking about my views with republicans

2018-10-27 00:59:01 UTC

Striker is really good for history and little known facts, but his politics are wacky.

2018-10-27 00:59:35 UTC

Like when he was idolizing North Koreaโ€™s economics

2018-10-27 00:59:52 UTC

@Galaxidus I would do a great disservice if I tried. I've spent some time trying to understand it but @ tmattews seems to have explained it farely well

2018-10-27 01:00:33 UTC

I'd point out that "national capitalism" is just a rebranding of state capitalism
@TMatthews

2018-10-27 01:00:42 UTC

Third Position isnt only economical

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/505546349358612480/1516769232242.png

2018-10-27 01:00:43 UTC

>NK
>economy

2018-10-27 01:01:01 UTC

hey, Norkland has an economy

2018-10-27 01:01:45 UTC

South Korea has a real economy.

2018-10-27 01:03:09 UTC

>yfw revolution has become commercialized
I bet you them capitalists could sell snow to eskimos, water to fishes, and rain to clouds

2018-10-27 01:04:12 UTC

What are your guys thoughts on the whole Venezuela situation that Jochim and Striker broke ties over?

2018-10-27 01:04:58 UTC

@Galaxidus I wasnt aware that happened, do you have a link?

2018-10-27 01:05:04 UTC

dont know it, but Venezuela is a mess.

2018-10-27 01:05:07 UTC

Is there a vid of them breaking up I think heel turn deleted theirs

2018-10-27 01:05:08 UTC

@Galaxidus I would contest that because we had capitalism for centuries while also being nationalistic. Modern cultural degeneracy is facilitated by capitalism, but its root is in the media, not economics

2018-10-27 01:05:18 UTC

@Krypto- OH It got deleted, Ill try and get you the bitchute link

2018-10-27 01:05:54 UTC

Much appreciated. I remember their argument over Japan but that was kind of squashed.

2018-10-27 01:07:58 UTC

There's nothing wrong with Capitalism imo. Commies like to confuse Capitalism for Corperatism, which would be much more accurate when describing (((big companies)))

2018-10-27 01:08:24 UTC

I will use that from now on, Anglo.

2018-10-27 01:08:26 UTC

Thank you.

2018-10-27 01:08:32 UTC

@TMatthews Capitalism is a tool, the people currently using it are using it for evil intent.

2018-10-27 01:08:37 UTC

@Galaxidus it doesnt seem to want to play.

2018-10-27 01:09:04 UTC

I'll call people who are against capitalism anti-semitic, which will then lead them down the path of learning that 99.9999 percent of corporations are owned by Jews.

2018-10-27 01:09:07 UTC

@Krypto- OH Let it load, it takes a few mins for the play button to show up

2018-10-27 01:09:20 UTC

Okay, thank you

2018-10-27 01:09:24 UTC

@Selma That's fair ๐Ÿ˜„

2018-10-27 01:11:01 UTC

@Krypto- OH Let me know your thoughts on the subject they end up debating, curious of what others think

2018-10-27 01:11:48 UTC

@The Eternal Anglo does Corporatism naturally come after Capitalism?

2018-10-27 01:12:56 UTC

@The Eternal Anglo That's my thought process also. National capitalism as I call it allows free markets but intervenes to protect the national interest. Teddy Roosevelt is an example of this

2018-10-27 01:13:12 UTC

@Deleted User If the government is for sale then in a capitalist state the people with the most capital will buy up the most influence and evetually usher in corporatism

2018-10-27 01:13:34 UTC

@Galaxidus Thatโ€™s my thinking.

2018-10-27 01:13:50 UTC

Thats why you need a strong state

2018-10-27 01:15:21 UTC

@TMatthews I agree, I feel like National Capitalism is just a more optic friendly term for NatSoc to be honest.
@Deleted User I think that if companies are allowed to uproot themselves outside the interests of their host nation's people's interests, it can become corperatism-like.

2018-10-27 01:15:42 UTC

fascism is the merger of state and corporate power

2018-10-27 01:15:45 UTC

Yeah. Itโ€™s a tough call.

2018-10-27 01:15:50 UTC

capitalism is far from what we know it as today

2018-10-27 01:15:57 UTC

There is no perfect system.

2018-10-27 01:16:05 UTC

capitalism is also the methodology to bring true communism as a final order

2018-10-27 01:16:07 UTC

@The Eternal Anglo Right, the corporation need to serve the needs of the state and the people it represents.

2018-10-27 01:16:12 UTC

@Galaxidus will do brother

2018-10-27 01:16:37 UTC

I think it's when a Company becomes so large or unrestrained that they are basically an autonomous government within their own country, or a small country themselves. @Deleted User

2018-10-27 01:16:53 UTC

capitalism achieves an equilibrium through labor, commodity, and price balancing until a communism is achieved - it's written in a two volume book by Marx

2018-10-27 01:17:11 UTC

Marx who?

2018-10-27 01:17:21 UTC

Yup, Marx and engles said capitalism is the prequel to communism

2018-10-27 01:17:25 UTC

most socialism is fascism, merger of state and corporate power... it's not really communism

2018-10-27 01:17:36 UTC

most people never actually read marx, but it's true

2018-10-27 01:19:17 UTC

the main problem we have is corruption at the highest levels, and increasing restrictions on the lower levels of society - if the law was applied judiciously, we wouldn't have near the level of crisis we are at

2018-10-27 01:20:27 UTC

It's ironically funny that national capitalism has given the workers more rights than Communism ever has

2018-10-27 01:20:48 UTC

trump applying a heavy handed application of American law is the best way for us to preserve what we've built and also prepare for a future that is possible for whites within society. if he can't make it, it's very very dark down the road from here

2018-10-27 01:21:23 UTC

Economic nationalism is American. We only adopted free trade during the Cold War in part to combat communism in the world stage.

2018-10-27 01:21:39 UTC

Its people that have no interst in the Nation as a whole, the people, its traditions and the well being of its societal fabric, a plus from Monarchy is that the King had a personal stake in the land he ruled over, not just in office for 4 years and thats it, not actual long term planning can be done.

2018-10-27 01:21:52 UTC

the more populists that rise up, the more normalized his behavior will be on a global level - he expressed support for Salvini's revoking immigrant citizenship and other similar strategies

2018-10-27 01:22:29 UTC

@Reinhard Wolff did you read Ian Fletcher's book?

2018-10-27 01:22:44 UTC

one of the most interesting debates in American history, but also one of the least discussed, was the debate with Cleveland and McKinley about bimetalism

2018-10-27 01:23:56 UTC

if we never introduced silver into the treasury, we wouldn't have diluted our economic position and likely would have never gotten into a lot of the other escalations in foreign affairs. it was the first major loss on the trail to fiat currency and federal reserve status quo

2018-10-27 01:24:39 UTC

research bimetalism and gresham's law, grover cleveland & william mckinley

2018-10-27 01:26:34 UTC

the rest was a result of greed, but americans decided bimetalism was not good for our nation's future, and for good reason.

2018-10-27 01:27:19 UTC

โ€œOne of the least discussedโ€ because it sounds really esoteric lol

2018-10-27 01:28:19 UTC

it's only esoteric because it's not taught in schools... but it's one of the most important debates in american history with a huge result on the current outcome

2018-10-27 01:28:43 UTC

Are we discussing economics here?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/505553398972678161/image0.jpg

2018-10-27 01:29:05 UTC

@Nemets the main argument was that silver was more accessible to commoners, but introducing silver to the reserve was the main kickstart for deflation in the greenback

2018-10-27 01:30:53 UTC

grover cleveland was one of our most consequential presidents, but he was swept under the rug of american history

2018-10-27 01:31:08 UTC

I haven't read Ian Fletcher's book

2018-10-27 01:31:54 UTC

@Reinhard Wolff Its interesting, He talks about the folly of free trade, I beleive the honorable Dr. Fuentes had him on his show not too long ago.

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