I could see the Jefferson thing happening. A full Calexit would be a catastrophe for everyone.

the rest of the country won't miss Cali/Northern Mexico. i promise. 😃

calexit would be hilarious

it would be like the "it's all fine" dog

I'm not of the mind to give up any of my great nation

you gotta give some if you want to take some

Cut off a gangrenous limb in order to spur ethnonationalism.

Most people who hate California have only been to LA and SF

SF is a nice city what are you talking about

I agree with dairy, a calexit would spell the end of the U.S.

my brother lives in SF and it turned him into half a fag

>end to the US
isn't that good?

Im not saying all CA exit. But if Latino nationalism in LA wants to happen. Hah. Have at it while we control your freshwater and watch from afar.

There's no way the Federal Government would allow full secession and right wing Californians would have a fit. Other governments would get involved, private armys, a mess

@Aquatarkus bro I was born and raised in the USA and it only made me ... a radical nationalist

(((other governments)))

@DairyMaxx probably won't allow it, but I wouldn't mind the US collapsing tbqh

free russian citizenship if u know what I mean

I'm not saying I would stop Latino nationalism, that really helps bolster our cause. I'm just not so eager to usher in the complete fall of the United States. You guys don't know what that really means or will look like.

we have to roll the iron dice

or hope that someone rolls it for us

if the dice ain't rollin, it's going all the way to Tel Aviv

Any loss of territory would likely cause a global conflict.

Cali is the fall of the entire country @Deleted User ?

Why?

genuine question...

if Cali falls, russia or China will put a base there

you think successful secession will stop with Cali?

sounds like some tom clancy bullshit

USA, which barely produces anything, will collapse because financial institutions won't have the security they have now

which is now a foreign, alien, easily manipulated state

basically everyone in the USA is broke and non-whites are roaming the streets in gangs

If and when the US falls apart, the entire post cold war world order goes belly up

which looks bad, but it's actually good imo

@TMatthews and tha'ts a good thing

a unipolar world with USA in control is bad

or the (((usa))) at least

It's inevitable. Whether it's good is irrelevant. Our job is to make the best of it and influence it where possible to suit our race's interests.

I think you think acceleration and decline sounds cool, but you don't get it.

I do not think that some kind of Left wing secession could happen until things polarize more. Whether or not that is in some Trumpian Third term or some extreme leftist that comes to power post Trump who is unable to countersignal due to purity spiraling.

@Deleted User my hope is that it will suck for the lemmings

and they will realize what's up

that's the gamble at least

@Sam Anderson yeah no calexit anytime in the foreseeable future

it will be on the ballot sooner or later

it wasn't on this ballot because of a court order

but the secretary of something is suing the state

@Deleted User I don't think anyone thinks it would be "good" or "fun" or anything...it'll be awful. But long term, Cali sets the left wing standard, then the other crazies on our coast follow suit slowly after.

for batting it down

If California seceded, it would buy the rest of the country much needed time. Unfortunately, I can't see them being allowed to go peacefully

any secession would start the end of Pax Americana

which is good

any instability is good

and benefits our cause

i'm not calling for creating instability

simply saying that it benefits us

Honestly, I support Texas seceding now too, before they become 40+ solid democrat electoral votes

You mean East California?

My point is, a right wing White secession would never fly unless it is a reaction to a far larger event of Leftist Che Guevara type secession. We will always be judged at a different standard.

We aren't talking about a right wing white secession though...it's the left that wants to break apart the country (most literally now).

But we could benefit from their folly.

I think that, should there be civil war, the government will not be on our side. It would most likely be after we become a minority and are politically powerless, and be a reaction to outright land seizures or a reparations tax or some sort

yes

that's why you start learning a foreign language now

which one though? GermanoArabic?

any really

Swedistanese?

Eh. Civil War sounds a bit much for me. Barring some extreme event. Likely could end in some form of apartheid.

russian, chinese, castilliano

by chinese Imean mandarin

Leftist areas like California leaving now could usher in decades of right wing rule, hopefully slowing down immigration and buying time for identitarianism to grow

@Sam Anderson But the apartheid would be against whites at that point. Think Benny's "browning of America"...

It wouldn't be apartheid because they want and need to be around us to have civilization

true

It could be wealth based. Regardless of one's political leanings, nobody wants to live in an 80% Latino or Black area

anti-white laws at the very least. gibs for the many, not for the few at that point

I don't forsee any particular "War" gents.

Just a steady decline into dysfunction.

ala Brazil

yeah 😦

Brazilian racial dynamics are interesting.

whites will simply keep getting used to the worsening America until we are politically powerless

Indo European bed time

yeah, i need to hit the sheets as well.

At this point, I see two main possibilities. One is a dissolution of the United States. The other is steadily becoming Brazil

And yeah old school WN types have been race war fantacizing for decades. Not gonna happen in such a clean cut manner like you read in your fiction books bud.

all you MD/VA peeps need to stop being bums and get sleep too!

it will suck

Yeah, that's the most likely outcome, but they were speaking of secession, so I was expressing that the U.S. isn't just going to split apart with no backlash.

a civil war will suck, very bad

but

if we stick together

we'll be much better off than the lemmings

or antifa

You would know

@TMatthews I see us becoming Brazil sadly.

Even Brazil has a secessionist movement in the wealthier, more conservative, mostly white South

Rip

@Kingfish exactly, I started one already

@YourFundamentalTheorum f

F

I refuse to accept becoming Brazil