C'mon, I think his stuffs are at least good when it comes to historical events.

I don't. I remember him doing a vid where he claimed the motivation for Barbarosa was to kill the Jews. Which is completely inaccurate. Yes the Nazis wanted to kill the Jews but they were also running out of oil and food. While genocide was on the menue in Gruppenplan Ost the primary strategic goals were the wheat fields in Ukraine and the oil fields in Bakut. By and large (I have not watched all his videos) his take on history seems to mirror Soviet propaganda more than any real scholarship.

Yeah, i remember that video.

I am also yet to watch all his videos, but most of his Nazis stuffs are tailored around the notion that the Nazi ideology is bad. Everything and anything they did has something to do with their utter hatred towards the jews, it has nothing to do with any other factors.

And I especially remember his video criticism of JBP.

Criticizing JBP's view that the Nazis had some very irrational hatred toward the jews, it was a very long video concluding on, Yes the nazis hated the jews but they were entirely rational, despite some crazy shits the nazis did that looked and seemed entirely irrational.

i don't think they were nearby

Well the Nazi ideology *was* bad. The study of the Genocide (or democide in Russia's case) is clouded by competing narratives. There was a narrative of Judeo-Bolshevism which you've likely heard parroted by alt-right commenters. The Russian narrative mirrors it in which there is communism and fascism and all that is not communism is fascism. You will hear this parroted by communist commenters. Neither of these are true.

What you have instead is a place where all government and civil society was crushed. Anything in the Moltov/ Ribbentrop division was not just conquered but conquered *several times* so nothing like civilization could remain there. Without civilization murderers like Hitler and Stalin had free reign to do whatever they desired.

Yes, hard to see how the current situation in the US detention centers will result in something like concentration camps, so many things we had in Europe during the last century are not here. His arguement is 100% classic slippery slope backed by a view that the current US administration is fascist.

The closest analogue to it in the US would actually be FDR who did inter citizens based on ethnicity.......

Yes, putting away him being a Democrat and Lefty super star, even FDR stopped at that, no genocide was committed in FDR japanese camps, and compensations were paid in later days. This is a classic case of how not every camp ends up in mass deaths.

It was a horrible thing to happen, yes, but it didn't go further from that.

Ok but it supports the Bloodlands hypothesis. FDR was as close to fascism as my country ever came. Not just camps but the National Socialist economic model was one where the government could mandate what industry produced. FDR did this too under the National Recovery Administration. He mandated what could be produced and when much like the Nazi economy. *But* unlike central Europe civil society and the state were not destroyed. If he had started gassing and burning *American citizens* it would have been the end of him.

Yes, and i agree with you. And that's why i don't see the current US going the way of Nazi Germany. You can hate or love Trump, but i don't see him or anyone in the current US politics being able to destroy the institution the US has right now. And that's why i think TA's arguement is wrong.

But if you're Poland? First you get invaded by the Russians and they murder all the intelligentsia, they murder the military leaders, they decapitate your culture. Then you get invaded again by the Germans and they have this doctrine of 'Judeo-Bolshevism' which means you might get out alive *if you surrender the Jews* then you get invaded by the Russians again and they want every last partisan or patriot so you can be pressed into the Soviet power block. **That** is how the killing happens.

Soviets were communist.
Anti-facist were communist.

Soviet had stalin, killed millions.
Poland had a dictator, suppressed many.

1933 Hitler was in power, took the banks, and threw them out.
Soon after, Germany was boycotted by Judea.

>War was escilating.
Why was boycotts, and war was escalating..
Because it was hurting the bankers wallets, from the centralized banking system..

Winston Churchill
> ``` The unforgivable sin of Hitler's Germany was to develop a new economic system by which the international bankers were deprived of their profits. ```

But....but it wasn’t **true** communism

WW2 broke out, Germany lost, banks went back in... No more war.

Then operation paperclip took off, with the soviets of russia, and USA.
NASA was founded aka capcom.

Then the space race took off.

2019...
VOX BLAMES THE MEDIA FOR MAKING ANTIFA LOOK BAD!
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arEIQ9gPCKk>
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CNN’s Chris Cuomo says Antifa is “a good cause”
> <https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1123115265137340416>
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[US]
FBI Investigating Antifa For Plotting To Buy Guns From Cartel For ‘Armed Rebellion’
> <https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/29/fbi-antifa-plot-armed-rebellion-cartel/>
~ <https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1145381093639622656>
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Armed Antifa Fire Bombs ICE Facility, Is Shot And Killed By Police
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNQR6kAHSdI>

BREAKING: Senate Introduces Bill to Label Antifa "Domestic Terrorists"
RT if you SUPPORT this BILL...
> <https://starpolitical.com/senate-introduces-bill-to-label-antifa-domestic-terrorists/>
~ <https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1153323061707284481>

Germany, had a Typhus outbreak.

Nails, and hair was found at the camps.
Nails are publically known to spread infection, and hair carry's, and spreads lice.
And Lice is typhus.

US Blanket bombed the shit out of germany, didn't care where.
After weeks of bombing, US soldiers were deployed, then the walking skeletons were a thing.

When you are turned into a skeleton, did you need time to be that skinny.
So after that, if US did bombed anywhere, infectively as a military tactic to cut the supply tains off from the germans.
Did that indefinitely cut off the food supply to the camps.

They ran out of food, from war damages.
And made people suffer from the casualty rate.

I wonder how this is actually getting a connection in a way, to cause the so called holocaust.

Also the lice was from russia.

After russia invaded.

And during.

Though epidemic typhus was responsible for millions of deaths in previous centuries.
> <https://www.cdc.gov/typhus/epidemic/index.html>

\>nazis

\>"rational"

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https://youtu.be/-buxV4vfwPA

fuck me sweden is woke!

Yup

Thing that has been bothering me...
Don't get me wrong, just take a look a the subject material.
> https://youtu.be/s5pbH9hHDmI?t=229
2016 Trump, "I love wikileaks, it's like a trove of information"...
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2019 Trump, "Wikileaks is a hoax, just like everything else"...

If I'm being wrong about something, please correct me...

Just hope Israel didn't influence him through, and through.

And he is just another of the same puppet tool media.
I need to vent, but it might just be hyperbolic onto where I'll get.
Like, if this is just all a sham since the beginning.
Both sides.
Inverted delusion of the topic.
Tricking bothside into a one area narrative.
idk
If trump is playing 3D chess, you need to think a big wild in the game.

tbh

he probably means the whole "wikileaks got their shit from russia" thing

I thought it was pretty clear trump didnt put much weight on his words already back in 2016

I'm just saying it's been bugging me since the last time he said that.

well it's true, "everything else" is the russian collusion hoax

and "wikileaks is a hoax" is in reference to the rumor that wikileaks got their leaks from russia and gave them to the trump campaign early

Owh

He does need to abbreviate his wording a tad better if that is correct for the missinformation in a critical time atm.

All this talk of dirty play is senseless imo. I think sanders would have won if there was actual fair play.

As in hillary not rigging the primaries, and fewer people voting trump simply to boycot hillary. Yet people voting sanders to boycot trump would be roughly the same

But idk

the entire country of sweeden is basicly now a shit hole lol, dam how much worse the country it has gotten lol it has come a long way to come to this lol<:thinkcide2:462282425486147585>

_but no, you managed to reduce the choice to a rude lying clown or a warhawk appealing to minorities_

Trump often picks the first word that comes to mind, he's a salesman, businessman, TV star, not an experienced politician

So he'll trip over his words a ton and say things that are just wrong, or stupid

It's also very obvious, at least to me, that he's is a huge narcissist. Narcissistic people only care about themselves, they love the spotlight, be it postive or negative, as long as it's on them. They also overestimate their own abilities more than the average person does.

Trump happens to be a very nationalistic narcissist, so he cares about America, at least so long as enough Americans care about him.

He attacks his enemies relentlessly and impulsively, this is not 4D chess that you're seeing, this is an experienced salesman in the highest political office doing what he does best, both failing and succeeding.

A chaotic force, only held together by his nationalist pride.

I just don't want to leave things overshadowed tho.

Trump is a lucky circumstance, and if America is smart they won't vote him into office again.

He's likely to win, but not for the right reasons.

Don't get me wrong, he has his heart in the right place. But he doesn't come from a place of sincerity. It's about him, and him only.

When Dem voters say they see Hitler in him, they're very inaptly trying to say that even Republicans should fear this man. But not because he resembles Hitler, that's just their warped perception of reality. It's because this man is dangerous.

And I'm not saying Democrat candidates are any better. In case of doubt, Trump would be the best candidate.

And that's a sad thing, in case it went above people's heads.

What America needs, but not deserves, is a good president. Someone who can reconcile both sides. It's just that it won't happen, yet.

Not until Americans themselves find common ground.

The novel 'Watchmen' was written specifically for situations like this one. It tells us that a common enemy is needed.

And trump is probably that common enemy.

That's actually an interesting point

Make a problem then unite after.
But that is a double edged tactic, that can be a very bad idea.

If possibility.

If Trump doesn't start funding the wall, he'll lose trust. That's all I know.

ik

But the left is still against the idea...

And leaving the boarder open for the last 30 years, leaving MS-13 to roam free.

Trump rolling with a breach of free speech?
Imagine my shock

lol the wall won't happen its a meme

Trump already worries me after the Los Vegas shooting and banning bump stocks. He's not going to protect gun rights

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC30uFZsplYyA5oHjV__GJEA

> lol the wall won't happen its a meme

Trump isn't really a concern if people actually voted representatives into the House that respected the Constitution and our natural rights.

If only the ppl voted like I do, the policies I want would be passed.
- @Wizard_of_The_West

I didn't say that but whatever floats your boat.

you totally did though

I didn't. I said if we had representatives that respected the Constitution, which is part of their oath, and our natural rights, which means not violating the bill of rights or trying to circumvent it, then Trump isn't a real concern.

Your just strawmanning.

ok

But that isn't the case so everyone should be super concerned.

Ur alphabet soup bureaus delete ppl kinda at will and start wars that congress doesn't have to approve because they call them #NotAWar, u have obvious political dynasties emerging in your republic, u have institutionalized political bribery, u have a press complicit in the maintaining of the status quo to the point of a mental disorder, you are losing ground to China as far as your global hegemony is concerned, u have a total disconnect of the alleged sovereign body of your polity ("the people") from your entire foreign policy which happens to be a huge part of the source of your wealth.

Trump being wacky is really not the core of ur issues dewd

You have a *very* violent society by rich place standards, you have obvious identity rifts between different communities in ur country, u have poor sanitation

like

there is SO many problems

Muttica is facing rn

If anyone thinks Trump is the big one, they are daft

Lemme just list all the negative things about your country and then end with the conclusion that your society as a whole is very violent, divided and generally falling apart cause that's a proper argument that will hold up to scrutiny

And I can prove it, kiddo. With my opinion.

The list of problems is real. The level of violence in (some) inner cities *is* really high and I never said falling apart

But you're painting it as if this was specific to the US

And yes, I think that, considering all that, being afraid of orange man is not exactly a top priority

Am I?

Like, if other buildings are on fire, does it make it OK that your property is on fire?

This is not a contest

I'm not trying to bash the US

Point taken

I don't think the US is bad at all though

It's just so easy to focus on the problems

Dat is universally the case really

you take the good for granted

and focus on the problems, cause they bother u

Yeah, people forget poverty used to be the norm not so long ago

absolutely

and, in terms of poverty, even the ghettoest places in the US area not even CLOSE to starving

or even having nutrition problems

other then perhaps a stupid diet

basically: even the poorest niggers in the US have access to food and many amenities

it's pretty good

all things considered

Things that bother me the most about the US are, among other things, their foreign policies

It's about time they remove their grip and worry about themselves

Even North Korea worries about its own shit

But I guess other nations need to remain destabilized for a constant fresh influx of cheap labor

To a certain extent, I will agree - that it would be better to relax on the external pressure and hedge up the interior (infrastructure, societal and so on). However, as the current world order has progressed, if matters aren't tended to they tend to quickly get out of control and the enmity of the Arab world against everyone else just won't go away.

*Arab* world? Lets see... Morocco is no threat to anyone and stable. Algeria is at its most stable since the war with France. Tunisia is slowly becoming a western-style democracy, Libya has been deleted by European incompetence, Egypt is pretty stable and plugged into the international community, Syria has been deleted by the US, Iraq and Lebanon are largely aligned with *non-Arab* Iran, all the peninsular states are American allies super interested in the maintaining of their oil exports and are either aligned with Iran or are in open opposition to it.

The Arabs are mostly ON THE SIDE OF THE US against Iran or support Iran in a few cases, literally most of which are the US' own fault for shitting on them so much they don;t really feel like they have a choice.

C-H-I-N-A is the big daddy global threat rn, not some global Jihad nonsense. That was blown way out of proportion to begin with and mostly to justify foreign interventions (code word for bombing the shit out of countries)... After China there is a large gap, and then, as a far lesser threat, the Russians.

Yep, I'm also looking towards China

A few months ago Arab leaders met with US and Israel to discuss what to do with Iran

it was just before the Iran shit started...

Oh, without a doubt China is the premier concern. I was just using the Arabs as low hanging fruit.

The big question rn, assuming no actual war with China is gonna happen in the near future, is will the Germans/EU actually do something.

Or will they remain useless

'Cause on paper they totally have the resources to do shit

They are just too damn gay and divided

If France and Germany decided "fuck the US" next Monday, the pentagon would go ballistic...

Well, that would expedite Brexit...

So far the Euros are basically being all limp dick and wanna fence sit

isnt pentagon evil sense they share CP stuff?

Yeah, because Germany's still nursing its bruise.

largelly

plus the EU apparatus has not been sufficiently consolidated to actually have a meaningful united foreign policy

At the same time being a bureaucratic madhouse .. at least by what it looks like from the external.

So although Germany runs the thing, there's still lots of spanners that can be thrown in their wheels by dissenting countries in the EU

Obviously with the UK leaving the main pro-US voice is also leaving

but it wasn't the only one.

Baltics, Poland and Romania are still terrified of Russia and have 0 trust in Western Euros to help them if need be

Basically the EU is fucking impotent

and gay

and there is little on the horizon that would indicate any chance of some assertive action being possible

Now you know why there are screams for an EU army

noshit

So it's kinda declining like Ming China did...

It's a good thing that europe's armies are split by nation

It makes it less likely that things go kaboom

From a political point of view I agree

the ppl in charge of the EU are fucking awful

as far as I'm concerned

from a geopol perspective

this state of affairs is really bad for Europe

nothing is being done

Europe used to be in constant war over anything up until 1945

there is no potential for power projection

everyone used to be in constant war

the US still is

just overseas

where sandniggers get deleted

not mutts

so the public opinion is fine with it

out of sight, out of mind

Not their tribe, not their business

yea

wars didnt just end

rich ppl just realized they can have em far away from where they live

it's less of an inconvenience that way

Ah, well. Come to think of it, it's still all the same business, just outsourced.

Westerners live under the impression that the world is gr8, but that's largely because the entire economic framework of it was set up using western power and to benefit its interests. Wage slave niggers in Thailand are not exactly necessarily happy with this. Not to mention the Arab world that has been fucked over consistently since the early 1800s. And when someone who isn;t a westerner find success within the system, every red light in the pentagon goes off, and the entire might of the US is shifted to potentially blockade them in a 3rd World War scenario...

Because they are starting to shift from poor to competitive

well, starting is the wrong word,

but u know what I mean

Eh

Trade is beneficial for everyone, including those who end up with less at the end

It's been studied enough

that is Liberal nonsense

No it's not

yes it is

let me explain

imagine u are for whatever reason in a gr8 geographical spot for trade

you have nuff of a population base and geography

and resources on top of that

to be able to field a navy that can dominate the seas

and you have lots of starting capital

because of history shenanigans

you will be very sucessful

Is that your entire argument?

This is not an explanation for anything

your success will breed more success, as ur cities grow so does their attractiveness and the opportunity ppl can find in them

so you get all the entrepreneurial and smart ppl

you then become MORE rich

and then

you are rich enough that if someone else starts to become rich as well

you have enough power to fuck them in the ass with their own mother's pocket knife

and why wouldn't you?

I mean

if u don do it, they might do it to u

to gain the same structural advantages you once held

Trade starts with demand, if demand doesn't exist, trade doesn't happen
You trade only if you need a specific resource, and you only offer the resources that you need less off, otherwise you have no incentive to trade

why would they do it?

because the only way to be SURE someone isn't gonna fuck you over

...

is to be strong enough that they cannot

and the best way to be that

is to fuck THEM over

at least somewhat

You're stuck in a loop of the predatory mindset

This is how geopol works

Everyone who wants to get rich does so by fucking other people over, right?

No other way

no no

not my point

for ppl

its different

cause we have laws

Please write longer sentences, you're making it really tiresome to read

The number one fundamental of trade is that you don't trade if you see no benefit

ther eis no law in international politics

other then the law of the bigger stick

...

I'm talking about the total sum of benefits of trade

there is no monopoly on violence

What the fuck are you talking about

power politics

We were talking about trade

trade is just an instrument of power

You're ridiculous

ok

No conversation possible

why do you trade with the other person?

because you see benefit to it

you will get something you couldn't otherwise get at this relative cost that u are paying

for whatever reason

the point of this, in a world where there is no police, is to accumulate enough potency so that you cannot be bullied by other actors

Trade is voluntary, otherwise it's theft

because being enslaved sux balls

Trade =/= theft

So if it's theft, then we're not talking about trade

who said anything about theft?

You did

not really

"bullied by other actors"