Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM
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other then the law of the bigger stick
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I'm talking about the total sum of benefits of trade
there is no monopoly on violence
What the fuck are you talking about
power politics
We were talking about trade
trade is just an instrument of power
You're ridiculous
ok
No conversation possible
why do you trade with the other person?
because you see benefit to it
you will get something you couldn't otherwise get at this relative cost that u are paying
for whatever reason
the point of this, in a world where there is no police, is to accumulate enough potency so that you cannot be bullied by other actors
Trade is voluntary, otherwise it's theft
because being enslaved sux balls
Trade =/= theft
So if it's theft, then we're not talking about trade
You did
not really
"bullied by other actors"
I said shit about structural advantage
bullied by other actors is what happens if you are not strong nuff
Strong enough on what?
and u use trade to accumulate strenght
a variety o ffields
Specifics please
You're talking about the opium wars
if your population is too poor for you to be able to field a competitive military by taxing them is the most obvious level
omg
Military has nothing to do with trade
ok
look
the POINT isn;t trade
trade is a means to an end
which is to be a sovreign polity
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with rich and happy citizens