Message from @Tonight at 11 - DOOM

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2019-07-25 16:03:50 UTC  

I didn't say that but whatever floats your boat.

2019-07-25 16:04:14 UTC  

you totally did though

2019-07-25 16:05:29 UTC  

I didn't. I said if we had representatives that respected the Constitution, which is part of their oath, and our natural rights, which means not violating the bill of rights or trying to circumvent it, then Trump isn't a real concern.

2019-07-25 16:05:48 UTC  

Your just strawmanning.

2019-07-25 16:05:56 UTC  

ok

2019-07-25 16:07:46 UTC  

But that isn't the case so everyone should be super concerned.

2019-07-25 16:14:00 UTC  

Ur alphabet soup bureaus delete ppl kinda at will and start wars that congress doesn't have to approve because they call them #NotAWar, u have obvious political dynasties emerging in your republic, u have institutionalized political bribery, u have a press complicit in the maintaining of the status quo to the point of a mental disorder, you are losing ground to China as far as your global hegemony is concerned, u have a total disconnect of the alleged sovereign body of your polity ("the people") from your entire foreign policy which happens to be a huge part of the source of your wealth.

Trump being wacky is really not the core of ur issues dewd

2019-07-25 16:16:08 UTC  

You have a *very* violent society by rich place standards, you have obvious identity rifts between different communities in ur country, u have poor sanitation

2019-07-25 16:16:11 UTC  

like

2019-07-25 16:16:17 UTC  

there is SO many problems

2019-07-25 16:16:26 UTC  

Muttica is facing rn

2019-07-25 16:16:42 UTC  

If anyone thinks Trump is the big one, they are daft

2019-07-25 16:55:41 UTC  

Lemme just list all the negative things about your country and then end with the conclusion that your society as a whole is very violent, divided and generally falling apart cause that's a proper argument that will hold up to scrutiny

2019-07-25 16:56:23 UTC  

And I can prove it, kiddo. With my opinion.

2019-07-25 17:02:26 UTC  

The list of problems is real. The level of violence in (some) inner cities *is* really high and I never said falling apart

2019-07-25 17:02:52 UTC  

But you're painting it as if this was specific to the US

2019-07-25 17:03:03 UTC  

And yes, I think that, considering all that, being afraid of orange man is not exactly a top priority

2019-07-25 17:03:17 UTC  

Am I?

2019-07-25 17:03:39 UTC  

Like, if other buildings are on fire, does it make it OK that your property is on fire?

2019-07-25 17:03:48 UTC  

This is not a contest

2019-07-25 17:03:53 UTC  

I'm not trying to bash the US

2019-07-25 17:03:55 UTC  

Point taken

2019-07-25 17:04:06 UTC  

I don't think the US is bad at all though

2019-07-25 17:04:14 UTC  

It's just so easy to focus on the problems

2019-07-25 17:04:29 UTC  

Dat is universally the case really

2019-07-25 17:04:36 UTC  

you take the good for granted

2019-07-25 17:04:45 UTC  

and focus on the problems, cause they bother u

2019-07-25 17:05:00 UTC  

Yeah, people forget poverty used to be the norm not so long ago

2019-07-25 17:05:14 UTC  

absolutely

2019-07-25 17:05:38 UTC  

and, in terms of poverty, even the ghettoest places in the US area not even CLOSE to starving

2019-07-25 17:05:45 UTC  

or even having nutrition problems

2019-07-25 17:05:51 UTC  

other then perhaps a stupid diet

2019-07-25 17:06:17 UTC  

basically: even the poorest niggers in the US have access to food and many amenities

2019-07-25 17:06:22 UTC  

it's pretty good

2019-07-25 17:06:27 UTC  

all things considered

2019-07-25 17:07:24 UTC  

Things that bother me the most about the US are, among other things, their foreign policies

2019-07-25 17:07:54 UTC  

It's about time they remove their grip and worry about themselves

2019-07-25 17:08:34 UTC  

Even North Korea worries about its own shit

2019-07-25 17:09:34 UTC  

But I guess other nations need to remain destabilized for a constant fresh influx of cheap labor

2019-07-25 17:20:19 UTC  

To a certain extent, I will agree - that it would be better to relax on the external pressure and hedge up the interior (infrastructure, societal and so on). However, as the current world order has progressed, if matters aren't tended to they tend to quickly get out of control and the enmity of the Arab world against everyone else just won't go away.

2019-07-25 17:28:54 UTC  

*Arab* world? Lets see... Morocco is no threat to anyone and stable. Algeria is at its most stable since the war with France. Tunisia is slowly becoming a western-style democracy, Libya has been deleted by European incompetence, Egypt is pretty stable and plugged into the international community, Syria has been deleted by the US, Iraq and Lebanon are largely aligned with *non-Arab* Iran, all the peninsular states are American allies super interested in the maintaining of their oil exports and are either aligned with Iran or are in open opposition to it.

The Arabs are mostly ON THE SIDE OF THE US against Iran or support Iran in a few cases, literally most of which are the US' own fault for shitting on them so much they don;t really feel like they have a choice.

C-H-I-N-A is the big daddy global threat rn, not some global Jihad nonsense. That was blown way out of proportion to begin with and mostly to justify foreign interventions (code word for bombing the shit out of countries)... After China there is a large gap, and then, as a far lesser threat, the Russians.