National Coalition of Third Positionists.

Probably got banned.

*I'm not good at advocating for my party*

What a shame.

just go to monarchy discords

I had the centrists on my side even

and spam invites

Had their vote

But they're all gone now

and given time you'll lose some more

I'm gonna leave if communists or fascists get into power.

If I vote for a fascist president

see what I mean

Will there be changes around here

no wonder you're bossed around by your own party

What power does a president have

^^^

Ger damn arrow thief

he has the power to be fucked up the ass by papi eagle

Hey eagle

Uhm tbh Idek yet

Are u the leader around here

what sus said

Uhm

Nah

I'm retired

Can I ask u to switch party

In other words no I can't switch your party right now because I am in bed and I have to go to a computer for that

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I’m gonna take advantage of the anarchist party being small

And rise to the leader

You aren't in the party anymore brah

Leader doesn't really do shit btw

Oh ty

Unless you are an in an authority type party

Anarchist is liberty type so it can by the members

Does leader let you add party info?

Mhm

I’m now red

gulag for u

>In other words no I can't switch your party right now because I am in bed and I have to go to a computer for that

what is this lazy attitude owner

Uhm

For one

I did it

Second

I'm not being paid

So I don't feel guilty

ree

I should take donations tho amiright

Make this server pay to win

Oh fuck yes

Bribes

Why didn't I think of this sooner?

How do I win this?

Don't know yet

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You can vote there rn

@BGN2.0

we're in round two, the libertarian party didnt get enough votes to be in the top 3

Who voted cons

monarchists

cons don't support monarchy

Damn, Conservatives and Communists are at a draw rn

holy fuck, fascist party winning

they have the most members in this server

libertarians aint even there

oh gawd

yeah i think they were the first ones to go in the first round

who is the leader of libertarian party?

im new here so idk

oh its erzenguel they say it there

@Erzengel

NO COMMIES ARE LOSING

i voted conservative hehe

change

no

~im a minarchist, do you think i vote commie?

THEY WILL INSTALL CAPITALISM!!!

tbh if the communists win this round the fascists would like that as its higher chance to win for them

THEY ARE JEW BACKED

capitalism is good

ew

jews are not

Jews are the best at capitalism

Their communist project backfired

K I K

"Capitalism is good"- same people who complain about lootboxes or microtransactions in Video games

Tbh, I don't understand how capitalism and communism are the work of the Jews. I dunno, shit, maybe fascism was just a Jewish plot to ensure that the Holocaust came to be, therefore providing the moral backing to a Jewish state.

W O K E

*Maybe we've been played all along*

Hitler was secretly a jew

W O K E

tbh i'd want to kill my own race

what's that?

lets nuke the whole earth so everyone dies

Fascists are also the perfect scape goat. "We can destroy free speech because nazis."

Jewish plots don't exist. I used to be Jewish and can first-hand confirm Jewish rabbis aren't plotting shit. If anything, rabbis are wise on morality but stupid when it comes to politics

Pfft, that's what a Jew would say

yeah those conspiracies don't exist

I'm not a Jew

how can u be (((used))) to be jewish

Obviously the normal jew doesn't know what the elites are doing

Judaism is a religion

no, lol

How come there are so many atheist jews then?

Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people. It is an ancient, monotheistic, Abrahamic religion with the Torah as its foundational text.

And there 'religion' literally revolves around being descended from Jacob/ISrael

That's what (((they))) want you to think

Yeah it's not a cult

Broke: the holocaust didn’t happen
Joke: the holocaust happened
Woke: the holocaust didn’t happen but should have

"let's all read a scroll and plot global domination"

The Jews is a race of about 17M people.

Open your eyes. The Torah is their guide to world conquest.

No it's not

I've read the Torah

The Torah sucks ass and most Jews disagree with 60% of it's bullshit

Pffffft. Deny it all you want, I have *evidence*

No you don't

Real Woke: The Holocaust happened, but why are there still Jews?

Probably most Jews think it is symbolically true.

I've seen one Jewish man say that the Torah is a guide to global Jewish domination. You can't disprove that!

religious ones

That Jew is stupid

anyone who believes in jewish conspiracies are the same people who think the earth is flat

It is, duh

Exactly

How is that even a debate. World is flat

the earth is dinosaur-shaped you bigots

If it were round, we'd be falling over all the time

Do you think conspiracies don't exist?

Jewish conspiracy theories are pretty stupid. Flat Earth is more feasible

They literally exist in every day life and the corporate world.

The only Jewish conspiracy I believe is that Israel is an imperialist ethno-state oppressing muh Arab comrades

Jewish bankers and CEOs exist. So what? There are Christian and Muslim CEOs, and Christians essentially rule the world

>imperialist and ethnostate at the same time

WTF

Christians essentially rule the world. HAHAHAHAHA. Oh, that's a good one

Well, they do

Or huge parts of it at least

They used to, I don't deny that. But now? Bunch of damned liberals with their bullshit 'religion of tolerance' or 'free markets'.

Actual, traditionalist Christians haven't ruled the world for a long time.

Christian organizations still pay off bureaucrats

Unless the organization is Orthodox or in the Middle East, it's been subverted by liberal values and is on life support.

Yeah, because Liberalism is the shit. Christian organizations now just pitch up a rainbow flag to get money from a liberalized populace. Christian organizations are run like businesses

When I say "the shit" I mean "the norm"

I personally hate Liberalism

The funniest thing, it's not getting them more converts. They're sucking up to liberals for no good reason other than to stay afloat

Liberalism is just Capitalism with a rainbow

I dunno, anarchism seems to be liberalism to an extreme.

liberals are fuckin socialist soy bois

Other way around bubba

Bitch, Anarchists hate Liberals. Liberals literally take any stance previously Anarchist or Socialist and turn it into a marketing campaign

Liberals steal from us bro

You're still liberal though, in a Duginist sense.

Anarchists and Socialists literally started progressivism, they just use it to make money

No. I'm. Not.

Calling me a liberal doesn't make me one. Idealistically, the only thing me and Liberals have in common is the fact we aren't Authoritarians. Other than that, we're different asf. Liberal are fake in every sense of the word. Hell, they aren't even progressive.

You believe in the rights of the individual, right?

Yes

I believe in Individuals being able to rule themselves

Liberals don't believe that. They have faith in their partisan politics n shit

So, the rights of the individual over the rules of society, that sort of thing?

No, the society is a reflection of the Individuals, not Individuals being a reflection of society

I understand where you're coming from with your claim however

By rules of society, I'm referring to things like homosexuality. For example, do you put the right of a gay couple to practice over the society that bars it

No, because my idea of a society is different to which the rules of that interaction don't apply. Society is a reflection of the masses, in which decisions and policies are made by all Individuals in said society through Consensus. That means the gay couple would have a say in how the society is run and the policies that affect them. Because of this, more human interaction and communication between different peoples is required. Intolerance for things such as homosexuality would therefore decrease, given interaction between homosexuals and non-homosexuals would be necessary. Social Conservatism is a biproduct of a vertically organized society, in which different hierarchial units compete and utilize different methods of keeping power, including divide and conquer. The system behind a Liberal society is the same as every other: hierarchy still exists, Social Conservatism will exist to a degree. Horizontal Organization requires social tolerance to thrive, and success in said society isn't done through Competition but cooperation. That means cooperating with various groups and peoples is required to better our current material and social conditions. Information about different cultures and the exchange of knowledge on such a radical scale will kill the whole idea of intolerance. So, essentially what you think Anarchy is isn't what it is. It's not bound by the Human relation laws that vertical organization inherently possesses, it's an entirely different system in on it's own. Liberalism runs in the same system as everyone else, just with more pressure on tolerance. The biproduct of a society, such as Capitalism and the State, which require Competition to better our conditions, is greed, and greed requires intolerance. The biproduct of the Anarchist horizontal method isn't greed. Cooperation is required to better our condition, which is the goal for every Human to achieve. Therefore, intolerance would be scarce within years.

Oh, this is disgusting. The proposed abolition of tradition, the destruction of cultures. This is textbook liberalism, individual rights, minority rights, secularism, no doubt.

Liberalism and Anarchism have similarities on social positions, but what completely separates them are the systems these goals are achieved in.

What stops the society from lynching the gay couple?

But, it isn't Liberalism because you say it is. That comment only shows me you understand very little about what Liberalism actually is, how it works, and it's goals. Anarchism obviously struggles for Individual liberty, how this is done is DIFFERENT from liberalism. An ideology isn't determined by it's goals, but by it's methods to achieve them

Goals are only half the battle

The goals of Communism and Anarchism are systemically identical. How they are achieved is different, making them different ideologies altogether

anarchism is communism without any form of strategy

No, it isn't

How would anarchism be established?

don't take it personally, I mostly am ok with anarchists, I am just really always disappointed when it gets to define how a revolution needs to be carried out

but it's ok because our goal is the same and we have the same enemy

Both communism and anarchism are dead ideologies. Either they've never occurred, were destroyed by the forces of liberal capitalism, or became subverted and liberalized themselves.

anarchists think that since revolution is carried out, everything is ok and we can do anarchism, which is ignoring theclass contradictions that still will be inherent in society, and that we need to fix it in a large scale

every anarchist revolution in history had to make authoritarian decisions because they cant' keep it up by being entirely true to their ideals to make it work

I think Anarchists need a Revolutionary theory that is more planned out than some fucking insurrection

DotP is necessary

You LITERALLY can't have ANY revolution without a bit of authority bro

that's why you need to become marxist 😉

Even an Anarchist Revolution needs some authority

Anarchism is a critique of unjustified hierarchy. I'm pretty sure a temporary revokable Revolutionary council is justified

revolution isn't a gala -Mao

No it isn't. Revolution is a struggle

how is that different from Dictator ship of the proletariat?

Struggles need coordination and planning

It isn't

like revokable revolutionary council

it's litteraly the definition of the DotP¨

That's because it is DotP

so you are a communist at some degree

I have a different take on Anarchism than most Anarchists. I'm a class struggle Anarchist with lots of LibMarx inspiration

ok!

have you read state and the revolution?

could be interesting for you if you haven't

DotP under Libertarian Marxist institutions fits within the Anarchist critique of unjustified hierarchy. As long as it can be dismantled by the masses at their will, it's justified

yeah, well that's marxism for you

it's litteraly how it works

like cultural revolution

dismantling the hierarchy to impeach the nomenklatura from taking place

like in the USSR post stalin

I think you are closer to Mao Spontex than anarchism

which is the libertarian version of MLM

Life is Struggle

^

Fascism embraces this in its life style

Fascism is bullshit

I still describe myself as Anarchist. Just more of an original kind

>communist saying this

yeah well I think you might have to rebrand it since you are very different from most anarchists

Protracted people's war is based tho

Fascism failedway harder than all socialist states

Mussolini is a better Pinata than leader

Just not a huge fan of partisan politics. Which is what separates me from most Marxists

>being destroyed by outside forces is worse than causing self-collapse

Fascists lost the only real war they fought

hence the Mao Spontex way, which distances itself from parties and wants a more autonomous form of ML

with the Mass Line as principal strategy

At least communists and fascists achieved something, unlike anarchists.

If you disclude Franco of course

Historical Anarchists didn't have a solid Revolutionary theory

Fascist only achieved misery, lost war and mass crimes

Socialism achieved a better society for its people

And the USSR (great and glorious as it was) didn't?

yeah

they didn't

They did have a Revolutionary theory

It wasn't a great one, but arguably it was one

USSR achieved better life and it got ruined by revisionism and the nomenklatura

from Corn Man to Gorby

The USSR just followed the historical route of all communist states.

Liberalization and collapse

nope, just loko at Cuba

or China

or DPRK

didn't collapse my man

look at the Naxalites

still going strong

they own half of India

China could hardly be called communist

China is stronger than ever even if its economic system is liberalized and needs fixing

The USSR failed because some of that shit was inherent to a system that's centralized. Marxist-Leninists can learn from this mistake. If you fail, learn where you went wrong and try again

China isn't communist, it's socialist with a market economy

DPRK is the only exception. Cuba is reforming their constitution to include business owners, China is... if you think Deng was a good Marxist-Leninist, well then, I know a couple hundred Leninists that will spit in your face. And the Naxalites are a dying movement

but Xi might make the right turn in the near future

To say Nazi Germany produced only misery