Message from @Aemon

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2018-06-02 10:33:32 UTC  

If you disclude Franco of course

2018-06-02 10:33:50 UTC  

Historical Anarchists didn't have a solid Revolutionary theory

2018-06-02 10:33:52 UTC  

Fascist only achieved misery, lost war and mass crimes

2018-06-02 10:34:22 UTC  

Socialism achieved a better society for its people

2018-06-02 10:34:23 UTC  

And the USSR (great and glorious as it was) didn't?

2018-06-02 10:34:31 UTC  

yeah

2018-06-02 10:34:32 UTC  

they didn't

2018-06-02 10:34:34 UTC  

They did have a Revolutionary theory

2018-06-02 10:34:47 UTC  

It wasn't a great one, but arguably it was one

2018-06-02 10:34:51 UTC  

USSR achieved better life and it got ruined by revisionism and the nomenklatura

2018-06-02 10:35:00 UTC  

from Corn Man to Gorby

2018-06-02 10:35:13 UTC  

The USSR just followed the historical route of all communist states.

2018-06-02 10:35:17 UTC  

Liberalization and collapse

2018-06-02 10:35:20 UTC  

nope, just loko at Cuba

2018-06-02 10:35:21 UTC  

or China

2018-06-02 10:35:25 UTC  

or DPRK

2018-06-02 10:35:37 UTC  

didn't collapse my man

2018-06-02 10:35:43 UTC  

look at the Naxalites

2018-06-02 10:35:46 UTC  

still going strong

2018-06-02 10:35:54 UTC  

they own half of India

2018-06-02 10:36:33 UTC  

China could hardly be called communist

2018-06-02 10:36:34 UTC  

China is stronger than ever even if its economic system is liberalized and needs fixing

2018-06-02 10:36:39 UTC  

The USSR failed because some of that shit was inherent to a system that's centralized. Marxist-Leninists can learn from this mistake. If you fail, learn where you went wrong and try again

2018-06-02 10:36:47 UTC  

China isn't communist, it's socialist with a market economy

2018-06-02 10:36:52 UTC  

DPRK is the only exception. Cuba is reforming their constitution to include business owners, China is... if you think Deng was a good Marxist-Leninist, well then, I know a couple hundred Leninists that will spit in your face. And the Naxalites are a dying movement

2018-06-02 10:36:56 UTC  

but Xi might make the right turn in the near future

2018-06-02 10:37:22 UTC  

To say Nazi Germany produced only misery

2018-06-02 10:37:25 UTC  

It's a complicated debate around china honestly and it needs to be nuanced

2018-06-02 10:37:28 UTC  

Deng was shit

2018-06-02 10:37:31 UTC  

is to deny the facts of all pre war germany

2018-06-02 10:37:31 UTC  

China is just Social Democracy with a fetish for red at this point

2018-06-02 10:37:53 UTC  

so was Zemin

2018-06-02 10:38:19 UTC  

same for Venezuela, it's social democracy, not socialism or communism

2018-06-02 10:38:20 UTC  

Nazi Germany only produced benefits for those that were Aryan and members of the party

2018-06-02 10:38:26 UTC  

Communism died, fascism died, anarchism was never a thing to begin with. Y'all got to accept that capitalist liberalism has 'won' and needs to be combatted with fourth positionism.

2018-06-02 10:38:32 UTC  

for bourgeois Aryans*

2018-06-02 10:38:45 UTC  

True

2018-06-02 10:38:47 UTC  

@femboyrevolutionary which was the majority of the population, the vast majority

2018-06-02 10:38:51 UTC  

by your terms

2018-06-02 10:38:55 UTC  

nope, capitalism and neoliberalism is slowly falling apart

2018-06-02 10:39:00 UTC  

just look at the EU lol