Message from @Aemon
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If you disclude Franco of course
Historical Anarchists didn't have a solid Revolutionary theory
Fascist only achieved misery, lost war and mass crimes
Socialism achieved a better society for its people
And the USSR (great and glorious as it was) didn't?
yeah
they didn't
They did have a Revolutionary theory
It wasn't a great one, but arguably it was one
USSR achieved better life and it got ruined by revisionism and the nomenklatura
from Corn Man to Gorby
The USSR just followed the historical route of all communist states.
Liberalization and collapse
nope, just loko at Cuba
or China
or DPRK
didn't collapse my man
look at the Naxalites
still going strong
they own half of India
China is stronger than ever even if its economic system is liberalized and needs fixing
The USSR failed because some of that shit was inherent to a system that's centralized. Marxist-Leninists can learn from this mistake. If you fail, learn where you went wrong and try again
China isn't communist, it's socialist with a market economy
DPRK is the only exception. Cuba is reforming their constitution to include business owners, China is... if you think Deng was a good Marxist-Leninist, well then, I know a couple hundred Leninists that will spit in your face. And the Naxalites are a dying movement
but Xi might make the right turn in the near future
To say Nazi Germany produced only misery
It's a complicated debate around china honestly and it needs to be nuanced
Deng was shit
is to deny the facts of all pre war germany
China is just Social Democracy with a fetish for red at this point
so was Zemin
same for Venezuela, it's social democracy, not socialism or communism
Nazi Germany only produced benefits for those that were Aryan and members of the party
Communism died, fascism died, anarchism was never a thing to begin with. Y'all got to accept that capitalist liberalism has 'won' and needs to be combatted with fourth positionism.
for bourgeois Aryans*
True
@femboyrevolutionary which was the majority of the population, the vast majority
by your terms
nope, capitalism and neoliberalism is slowly falling apart
just look at the EU lol