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This one was....
https://youtu.be/NjlC02NsIt0
The climate change movement seems like Indoctrination through fear. Pretty much a cult.
We don't need carbon tax we need more trees.
We don't need less CO2 we need less plastic in the ocean.
Recycle the plastic that's in the ocean to make boats and use the boats to collect more plastic on the ocean to turn it into more boats and reduce the size of garbage island.
People are planting plastic trees and have plastic plants in their fish tanks.
Why are there so many homeless people, homelessness shouldn't even exist.
Why do you need ten houses,
That kid looks like sheโd try to beat the shit out of me, wtf.
Climate change is terrifying
It is real
Get over it
it is real though
Climate change is real bros
I need sleep
My sleep climate is shit
I canโt, I donโt get it
Staring at the ceiling for half an hour
Think about it. Climate change is the biggest threat to the earth that we have ever faced. Global extinction is where we are heading. We owe this to the earth to save it.
Do people actually think climate change doesn't exist
It doesn't
No it does
To lazy to crop but here
NVM cant post pics
Learn something
oh boy is that an *interesting* article. so CO2 is proven to be linked to retaining heat in a body such as the earth and currently we should be going through a period of global cooling. if we should be going through a period of global cooling then (while there would be loss of polar ice in areas) there would be gain in the amount of polar ice. we are loosing polar ice and we are seeing sea levels rise because of it. desertification is, while a natural process, massively accelerated and CO2 is linked with lowering intelligence via less oxygen being able to reach you overall especially in enclosed environments which typically have high CO2 concentration than outside. so less oxygen reaches your brain and thus begins inhibiting thought processes and reasoning as you can't function at full capacity and in high concentrations of CO2 you will just die so please do tell me how it's not a poison and even if climate change was a hoax how CO2 isn't dangerous
Assumption based on belief
The c02 is .04%
Thr human body can tolerate up to 1% with zero effect
You have been Indoctrinated
Sea levels rise and fall
Has nothing to do with us
The sun is what drives the climate
C02 is good
Im hoping for a 50% increase
.04 to .06%
assumption based on belief? what's that meant to mean? that i'm blindly believing something? well as someone who has seen the effects of CO2 concentration that low in an enclosed box with a thermometer in and watched it heat i'm assuming on belief? and as someone who has been inside a room that i can verify was filling slowly with CO2 as i was the one who made the reaction to slowly fill it and watched my cognitive abilities slowly decline before my very eyes as CO2 reached 0.06% in the room is blind belief?
Data?
Experiment study
Lets see it
idk the exact numbers but i've got a book somewhere that i recorded the stuff into
K well you dont know what you are talking about
We are well be the threshold of hypercapnia
i'd need sm time to find it but i have it somewhere. and basically i concentrated a small box with CO2 by complete combustion up to 0.04% then applied radiation to mimic the sun at a proportional amount. i also did this with a box that had 0.02% CO2 inside of it (same size of box) and heated that for the same length of time. at the end of this the temperature inside of the box with 0.04% it was significantly high. again i don't have the results with me as it was maybe a year ago but idk where the book is
so that's in support of climate change
You don't need to find anything
I just showed you
The c02 levels are fine
We can handle many more times
Climate change is a hoax perpetrated by greedy and corrupted politicians
Did you even read the article i posted?
Do you understand the difference between .04 and 1 ?
4 out of 100
so the following test had me sat in a box 5m by 5m by 5m and i had set up a point where CO2 would be filtered in by a combustion reaction in an open system separate of the box. i was in there for 30 minutes doing the following: solving equations, solving simultaneous equations and factorisation. i timed how long each question took each one was as difficult as the one before. during this time measurements of CO2 were taken by how much was entering the box per minute and by 0.07% i had noticed about 5 seconds increase in time taken to solve the problems on average. by 0.1% it had increased by at least 10 seconds and my mind was beginning to feel foggy and i lethargic. i continued to .15% at which point i had to leave as i was on the verge of passing out
i fully well understand the difference between 0.04 and 1
The earth isnt 5m by 5m
no but the proportion of concentration means that it doesn't matter
Show me the experiment and accompanying data
i don't think u understand what proportional means
I think you have your numbers wrong
i don't have it with me rn
i don't think i do
Then you are just blowing smoke
Climate change is a hoax
The ice caps are not melting
i think the book might be in my attic and i don't have the key, my room mate does. he won't be home for another couple of hours
They will never melt
The sun doesnt get close enough to the ice to melt it.
ok now ur just not understanding physics
they're waves of radiation not sound waves
Did you read the article i posted or not?
i read enough of it to figure out what kind of garbage i was reading yes
Its nothing to do with physica
i think that the sun's radiation not being strong enough to melt ice caps is *very* much physics
K you are indoctrinated
Was co2 many times higher in the past and did life thrive?
K you are boring to talk to. You have a belief system because you have been indoctrinated by liberal politicians who have paid for fake climate science by agencies like nasa
Gtg bye
so me doing research independent of anyone else's interests because i was curious as to see if it was actually true about climate change is indoctrination? CO2 has been high in the past while complex life has existed but they didn't need to use cognitive functions like we do now. they used cognitive functions to hunt and seek shelter from rains etc. which i personally wouldn't call complex thought
wouldnโt you say that your belief system is also biased since you donโt seem open to hearing what koro was saying
so again just going back to indoctrination when i did this research to see if what they were saying is true or not and found that if anything that it was under played by the media
Show the data
again i think it's in the attic as it's not in my office space and i don't have a key
Co2 is .04%. We can handle 1% without any detectable limitations
Disprove me.
I dont believe you.
@mysweettart ive heard what these fear mongers say. We are all going to die in 12 years.
Its a scam
To steal money through taxes
Show the data and experiment
so again i'll refer back to what i said about the cognitive inhibitions that i suffered trying to do what is to me fairly basic maths and the time it was taking me increasing instead of decreasing like you would expect as someone becomes more practised in doing those questions
Your numbers are wrong
so i've explained the experiments i just need to find the records of the data
Look it up
my numbers are wrong? yeah they are going to be slightly out since i don't have the data with me
this was conducted to try and disprove climate change not prove it
if anything my experiments were biased as i didn't fully believe what i was being told
More than slightly
You are completely wrong
Are you a persistent debate troll?
Co2 is .04%. We can handle 1% without any detectable limitations
Disprove me.
ok so when i get that data out and drop it, which is a precise record of what happened, which were designed to disprove climate change is more than slightly wrong?
i'm no persistent debate troll
ik what the hell i'm talking about
Show the data
Co2 is .04%. We can handle 1% without any detectable limitations
Disprove me.
Lol
again how many times do i have to say this to you? it's locked in the attic and i don't have a key
Co2 is making earth green. Disprove me
honestly ur starting to sound more like a persistent debate troll than me here
CO2 would be going down or staying the same if it was making the earth green as more plants would be absorbing it
If you lowered co2 by 20%. The forests wouldnt grow back fast enough for our consumption based off current levels of deforestation. Disprove me.
Increased co2 helps plants which helps us
so deforestation is happening faster than trees are growing back especially in rainforests so they're not growing back fast enough anyway so how is the earth becoming more green
if the level of CO2 was lowered by 20% there would be no chance that they could grow back is true
More co2 means less disease, less water consumption needed. Healthier, bigger crops.
We need a 50% increase
hold on a second, how is less water consumption needed? if a plant is photosynthesising then it needs one mole of water to one mole of CO2 so it definitely would not need less water by any means. and how is it going to cause less disease?
*6 moles of water to 6 moles of CO2
More co2 means trees and plants will grow in more arid regions
ok so why are we seeing accelerated desertification instead of more vegetation in arid and semi arid regions?
There is some other things as well but i think your mind is closed so you wont even bother looking into it. So i wont mention it.
ok so as someone who tried to disprove climate change you'r telling me that my mind is closed?
@Koro we are not seeing desertification. We are seeing a greening earth
i think i'm actually talking to a debate troll
so the fact that india in its entirety is at risk of desertification is us not seeing desertification? and the masses of deforestation and less growth in arid and semi arid regions is a greening earth?
Show me your data.
Ok. Show me the data of your experiment from someone else
Show me how you know earth is becoming greener and not unhealthier.
I donโt have any data to show, Iโm not the one making arguments.
Plant a seed
Watch the weeds spread
Watch the grass grow
If you actually think that is going to do anything to Earth, you are extremely stupid sir.
Plus, that isnโt even data.
Thatโs just stupid blabber.
if i plant a seed in the uk and a seed of the same species in the middle of mali are they going to do the same thing? no
i can't attach images here so i can't show u the picture
From your Oracle.
so the majority of that is going to be agriculture which is harvested only for the CO2 to be released once again. how much of that is there to stay for a long enough period to matter?
so yeah the world's food supply is increasing. who is surprised about that? it has to
Did you just grab the article thinking it was in your favor or did you actually read anything?
I read it
Its not very long
Since I canโt post images...
โWhile rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the air can be beneficial for plants, it is also the chief culprit of climate change. The gas, which traps heat in Earthโs atmosphere, has been increasing since the industrial age due to the burning of oil, gas, coal and wood for energy and is continuing to reach concentrations not seen in at least 500,000 years. The impacts of climate change include global warming, rising sea levels, melting glaciers and sea ice as well as more severe weather events.
The beneficial impacts of carbon dioxide on plants may also be limited, said co-author Dr. Philippe Ciais, associate director of the Laboratory of Climate and Environmental Sciences, Gif-suv-Yvette, France. โStudies have shown that plants acclimatize, or adjust, to rising carbon dioxide concentration and the fertilization effect diminishes over time.โ
โWhile the detection of greening is based on data, the attribution to various drivers is based on models,โ said co-author Josep Canadell of the Oceans and Atmosphere Division in the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation in Canberra, Australia. Canadell added that while the models represent the best possible simulation of Earth system components, they are continually being improved.โ
It explains to your face that the growing amounts of carbon dioxide isnโt beneficial if it continues.
Show the data
so mass agriculture is fair enough as greening but it releases as much CO2 as it absorbs and more via the need of equipment to harvest it
Itโs literally right from the site that you linked.
^
Based on models it says
I showed you the data within your data.
Ok
Based on models.
So where is the data saying earth is burning up
Its fake data
You guys are indoctrinated
Badly
Oh the nasa article...
Yes they are all over the road
The promote fake climate science
They now claim we are in global cooling
ok so u got information from an article u linked turned on u. now u resort back to calling us indoctrinated
hmm
we *should* be in a period of global cooling but with the rise in temperature we're clearly not
Lol.
Did you see the little kids getting brainwashed
Thinking they are gonna die
I donโt know what youโre trying to prove here. If you looked into anything at all youโd know that **yes, carbon dioxide is beneficial.** plants require it to create food and thatโs why we need it.
maybe they should? did you ever consider that? they present climate change as something scary because it should be scary as it's the type of thing that causes mass extinctions by turning the atmosphere into something akin to venus' atmosphere which quite simply is uninhabitable to anyone even at our level of technology
But just go a little deeper than the surface. Weโre not saying that carbon dioxide isnโt beneficial for plants, weโre saying that we are creating **more CO2 than we can take.**
that's what happens when something like climate change is unanswered. it gets severely out of hand eventually it becomes a self feeding cycle which can't be stopped
@mysweettart its not
Prove me wrong
Co2 is .04%. We can handle 1% without any detectable limitations
Disprove me.
Im advocating to raise c02 by 50%
Maybe build a few more oil refineries
so the decrease in my cognitive capabilities was a lie and a hoax despite me actively trying to disprove climate change?
The most close minded tries to tell others that their minds are closed. I canโt discuss anything with you anymore.
so me timing each question i did while measuring exactly and precisely how much CO2 entered the room in volume was wrong?
@mysweettart when you realize you cant prove climate change abd and your government gods are tricking you. Come back.
Also. I don't believe you.
so i conducted my experiment some time in april last year and while idk the numbers exactly as again i'm pretty sure that the book with them in is locked in my attic and i did recently see this video
stale air is slightly misleading it's about CO2 concentration
You say the government has brainwashed me but youโre just someone who wants to be special and have a differing opinion from those around him.
Oh, and you failed biology too.
Ok. Ad hominem
Not an argument
Read from an expert
He is an organic chemist
so that is just a great way to have that back fire as you have quite heavily used ad hominem as ur arguments by calling me indoctrinated so please take a seat
You clearly are
You lied about co2 limitations
yeah and i know quite a few organic chemists. one of which did part of his natural science degree on organic chemistry at cambridge university in the uk. the best university of natural science in the uk
Thats what happens when someome is brainwashed
They lie
Youโre just as brainwashed.
did i tho? as when i find it i will drop these numbers and then u can shut up
All youโve been doing is throwing insults around and just telling us that weโve been brainwashed.
Ok.
I won't shut up tho
We have been telling you this whole time that youโre right. Carbon dioxide is helpful.
Disprove me
i found a couple of other studies as well that did something fairly similar to what i did
climate change is just an illusion the government made to get us using bicycles and walking again thus making roads less busy.
@mysweettart yes.
Now you get it.
the government faked those images of starving polar bears, theyโre actually thriving.
Yes.
Now you are getting it.
Lol
You really believe a dying polar bear is because of climate change dont you.
Animals get sick.
Animals die.
Its sad.
They played on your emotions
It has nothing to do with global warming
The Government is like how the church used to be when the government used to be ran by the church they used to charge something called indulgence tax or a sin tax.
Similar to what they call now the carbon tax
For example a farmer would go to confession and say father for I have sinned and the father would say go home and resight 55 rosaries
Then all week in the spare time the farmer would recite rosaries, any time he had spare time he sat there and would recite resirosaries
The next week he would do it all over again
Until finally he would go to the father and say forgive me father for I have sinned and the father would tell him go home and recites 75 rosaries and the farmer finally said father I don't have time to recite those rosaries I just don't have time anymore and the father would say well give me 20 bucks and all say your rosaries for you
so that's a fair point about that but how would that relate to a carbon tax?
So the farmer gave the father $20 went home and thought all this is great my sins are forgiven and all I had to do was pay 20 bucks but really the father never said any other rosaries he just took the money
and the government won't use the money to stop CO2 emissions yeah?
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