if this map is accurate, that would mean they would need other suns to warm those landmases

otherwise they wouldn't be inhabiltable

Yeh but we don’t know it’s accurate. It’s highly doubtful that it is without corroborating evidence from universally trusted sources.

I'm like nearly 100% sure there are maps found around other old civ's that had peices o fthis and was thus the accumalative product of this map

I think its certainly possible that there are other landmasses out there with other suns

flat earth is proven, and it would make sense to expand and create more stuff outward

I'm uncertain how everything pieces together and how the other suns would work exactly

say if "this" was true don't you think other planets with hardly any sunlight most the time just be other landmasses far away? and this whole solar system is just a skin for generations of pre programing?

So you don’t really know if they exist or not. Also, flat Earth is not proven, I have evidence from my own eyes that shows that the model you claim is true cannot be possible.

I'm not exactly sure what other planets actually ar

are

we aren't a planet, we are a plane

limited amount of space on the Z axis going up and down

we can't dig further than 8 miles deep before it gets too hot

and highest we can go is roughly 250 miles up

well think about it; if living on an island/content X far from our ring of earth makes gravity lighter and less dense atmophere etc then telling you your litteraly a world away would trap you within that area; kinda like how they have us trapped upon "earth" telling us there's nothing to explore etc

there is no gravity, its made up BS

i've measured it myself

how have you measured it yourself?

i did a cavendish experiment in a spare room

you can measure boyancy but not gravity; as gravity implies unproven concepts but is by definition a very observable thing

cavendish experiment is patently bogus and proven false, much as gravity hs been debunked

then what did i measure?

Because i saw a force between two masses

we live in an electro magnetic reality so honestly think aboot it; if you "think" they will be attracted "you" could be creating the force in the first place.

i didn't believe they would though, thats why i tested it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ-7kbaHUgM

lets brainstorm "why" they don't want us exploring other lands; personaly i think it has to do with how reality manifests; as in going to these outer ring area's perhaps play by slightly different rules; as in quantum/alternat reality wise perhaps somebody who's heart/mind etc is of another kinda might find something different if they get lost in the void compaired to scientific/military men idk

says it hasn't been replicated but it has, i've done it

are you telling me i didn't?

so lets imagine you set a super easy to move two balls near each other, and then an air current comes by and moves them, suddenly now you beleive that was gravity

It's done in a sealed room and you leave it for literally hours to let it settle

And i tested it before with no masses and got a different result

if something is super easy to move, that is what your mind alone can move

lol

you proved psionics, not gravity

telekinesis is a thing now?

That's actually more impressive ngl

people can only do limited things with their mind and psionics

there is a limit

the more people coming together who want an outcome the more likelyl it is to come to pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iphcyNWFD10

psy/extra sensory capabilities are the root of why most this deception is there in the first place.....

deception to dumb down people

anti-GOD

but a lot of that is targeted at the "god" within you; as in your divinity, the power within DNA/willpower. Nearly "all" of it is to program your innate to prevent you from over entering the trains of thought that produce what they can't control.

its certainly possible with training and meditation to heal like Jesus

they don't want people running around healing others

you hear about the 100 homeopathic healers that ended up dead

appearantly they found some cure for cancer in pill form and were giving it to their patients, the evil powers that be put a stop to that

You hear how h2o can be used to weld/melt any metal and yet not burn flesh

Cancer cannot be cured, since it isn’t a single disease.

It’s literally thousands.

https://www.honeycolony.com/article/mysterious-holistic-doctor-deaths/

H2O can be broken down into its compenent parts, and could be used as fuel to do many things

including burning flesh

H2O is water...

Medical cannabis is a great medicine too but mostly its portrayed as stoners saying "lets get stoned"

H2O is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen, I'm well aware of the compound make up of water

So you’re saying water is not H2O?

they are the same thing, its a compound

Well you’re talking as if there’s some big conspiracy behind it or something.

I'm saying with more knowledge comes more power

as lex luthor once said in a superman movie, a genius can find the secrets to the universe on a bubble-gum wrapper

well i mean you can run a machine over night to split the h2o to weld with rather than paying thousands to chemical gas's

H2O is a chemical but never mind.

And what you split out of it is a gas.

But never mind.

ya but when your welding upon hitting metal it turns back into water and drips off

Ye

Lex Luthor : Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078346/characters/nm0000432

the whole reason the process works so well is because of this chemical reaction; its why it can melt shit like tugsten

I'd be careful wtih what you know

certain techs they don't want out to the public

if they become aware you know things you shouldn't, they will likely come after you

And who are “they” in this case?

for military reasons they don't want unlimited energy

they want limited fuel so its easier to track

government

Which one?

And unlimited energy is impossible because of the laws of thermodynamics.

mostly US based but possibly greater than them

if you can tap into water as an energy source to fuel cars with, for all pratical purposes you just created unlimited energy

they will come after you for that if you start implementing it

maybe that is another reason they are putting chemical waste in the water

Well hydrogen fuel cells do exist, however they are expensive to manufacture, so they aren’t common. Race cars use fuel cells, I think. Good old gasoline-powered internal combustion engines are cheaper and much more reliable.

flouride

What about it?

In small quantities it’s good for your teeth.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_fluor27.htm

What’s that?

with the right tech you could theorhetically take water and use it as gasoline

The science says fluoride’s good for your teeth. Do you brush your teeth? There’s fluoride in your toothpaste, in case you didn’t know. I’ve used fluoride in toothpaste all my life and never experienced any harmful effects.

the primary reason we aren't doing that, and I'm certain we already have the tech, is because it would be a military nightmare

you could move stuff around too freely

https://www.google.com/amp/s/grist.org/business-technology/why-arent-we-all-driving-hydrogen-fuel-cell-cars/amp/

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/feb/09/medicalresearch.health\

So ^Kevin^

I was wondering if you wanted to answer that epistemology question of mine: what do you believe truth to be?

truth is not relative, truth is facts that aren't debatable

you can debate with someone about facts and truth, but even if you both conclude wrongly that the truth isn't the truth, it doesn't change the truth

you can both conclude that the sky is clearly pink or orange, even though its blue

but when you live within a reality enwhich matter is a product of quatnum manifestation "fact" is linear in a non-linear reality as the mandella effect has proven

in short "you" could see a pink sky and the world wold see you as bloody crazy; but in your reality it would be a pink sky

mandella effect has not been proven

just because it's not been proven to yourself doesn't mean it's not been proven....

So you believe in correspondence theory? That which is true is that which is actual in the material universe.

if I haven't bought into the theory, its just a theory, not a fact

What's a fact?

a fact is something I have bought into

its completely subject to my beliefs

(this is a joke)

Some epistemologists do buy into relativism

didn't I already say truth isn't relative

its not subject to someone's beliefs

Interesting

here's the thing write if i make you lemonade I know for a fact i made it; but I can't say for a fact the lemons came from X tree unless i picked them; and a lot of science is pointing at theoretical tree's saying see the lemons came from this one; while leaving all the other "tree's" of thought up in the air out of ignorance

I think what you are trying to say here is that lemons is where money comes from

that is an interesting theory I'll have to give some thought to

So would you both agree with the statement that fact is a thing that cannot be cast into doubt?

just because the majority believe in something doesn't make it a fact

Mhm.

in fact, the majority have been duped into believing false and provably wrong beliefs

ya "true" pure facts are far and few between; most of them are objective and half lies

Okay, so Mr. J seems to agree with the statement.

Kevin, do you?

ulcers is one example, where people thought it was caused by worry and we eventually learned it is curable in most cases

no, truth is something that is true, no matter if everyone agrees to the contrary

That's not what I asked

its true regardless of what people think and regardless of what facts they present that people believe

like the globe for instance

most people have been duped into believing this fairy tale

Mate, I'm asking you to define something. That kind of does not work if you use the terms I'm asking for a defintion of.

what I'm telling you is truth is the truth

hell most people believe this "reality" is the reality of matter; that this is ground 0 when we are just an expression of spirituality bound within the constraints of a greater system of "beliefes" etc

facts are useless because reality is defined by the individual

some facts are malleable that can be distorted to change public opinion but they aren't truth

Kevin, that doesn't mean anything because you haven't told me what truth is. If I said Yog-Sothoth is Yog-Sothoth, you say: "What is Yog-Sothoth?"

real facts are truth, not manufactured facts

truth is the opposite of a lie

I'm asking for a positive claim; saying it isn't X or Y doesn't help.

if a kid steals something and tell you he stole it, he's telling you the truth

you can believe he's telling you a lie, but it doesn't change the fact that its the truth

Okay, so you believe "truth" is a proposition that is in accordance with a material reality?

The sentence: "I am typing right now," is true becaue it's happening.

I believe truth is the truth regardless of what reality it happens to be in

So you think truth transcends reality, in a certain way?

some truth might be limited to the reality it finds itself, there can be alternate truths depending on the rules of that reality

truth is bound within experince; one's truth can be a lie to another

truth is not subjective

Well, Kevin, you said truth wasn't relative; you're now claiming it's relative to the limits of a reality in which it could exist in.

what I believe doesn't matter in terms of truth

like if i tell you i'm working hard; from anothers point of view it may look as tho i'm "working" up to hard not working through it and "thus" hard

I seek the truth, and use logic to determine what makes sense

whether I can determine that doesn't mean I will always find truth

I often ask people if they are working hard or hardly working

so if I told you planes claim to fly higher then thay do and use optical lensing to portray the lands bellow differently to make you think in essence your flying further then you are; would you say its "true" that they are distorting the scale of our landmasses?

Are you asking me or Kevin?

"both"

I don't think they can distort the scale of the landmasses that much, we have other methods like driving a car to determine how far stuff is

I'm in michigan, I drive to california takes roughly 1 day of driving, how can you distort the distance by airplanes

the fact is that they are using optical illusions and perspective wrongly to hide flat earth

when it comes to flat earth one of the biggest points is flight; how all flights going from bottom of south america to aussy for example "pass" near noth pole area's for "refueling" etc in essence there paths make sense on a flat earth map

using fish eye lenses

well, the flights in the south are a little wonky

antartica is the outer edge of flat earth

so boating around that continent is literally 100,000 miles in circumferance

I'm presuming this is why you think climate change is propaganda?

I.E. melting poles would destroy your model of Earth

climate change is reality

its not propoganda

you should look into the current ice rates at greenland for instance... they are growing back a lot

we have seasons, its fact

What's this Cilmate Propaganda signify, then?

shifting attentions; they don't want you to know the source

trying to say that global warming is happening or use other nonsensical terms to promote a bad agenda is not only lame, but detrimental to society at large

How highly do you value the scientific method?

scientific method is extremely useful when its done right, unfortunately its been used wrongly to derail the scientific community into dead end stuff

these days funding decides far to much of it; like at its core its good but modern times its trashy as fuck; they get and form experiments and collect/fabricate data sets out of selective studying and much more

you can't get past the firmament, so all this space exploration stuff is garbage, waste of resources

the fact that vaxxing is causing autism and that the scientific community won't release the facts and covering it up shows how bad the system has gotten

scientific method is failing because its being misused

Could you release the facts?

hell most of western society is formed around the sedation and creation of passionless; heartless; thoughtless wage slaves

anectdotal evidence is out enough to outway scientific nonsense that says its not happening

the mainstream normilizes and idolizes starvation; and mallnutrition; they want weak women, egotistical and lustfull men; its all shallow ass consumerism shit

I wouldn't wish to be rude, but everything we're discussing is anecdotal.

too many people are suffering from autism that its obvious there is a cause, and the best explanation is the vaxxing

as people continue to be stupid and vax, more kids will end up coming down with autism

Logically, those premises don't line up.

It could still be true—it's just illogical.

have you guys ever dug into all these "clubs" of the big powers? like how the 1% is 99% within generational "cults" since as far back as we have paper

its ramping up, unless people wise up, more autism is happening every year

Yes, but none of that leads me to conclude vaccinnes caused it.

it could be more than one cause, like vaxxing mixxed with the flouride in the water mixxed with the geoengineering they are doing

nanoparticals they are dropping on us to make man-made clouds

ps the mark of the beast is the removal of visulization; it binds the mind/body/soul within this material reality; preventing them from "seeing/experincing" anything the mind can fabricate and thus all these nerological problems stem from attacking this ability

You're confusing sense-perception with the imagination.

like if you can close your eye's and "see" stuff by focusing on it; thats a dying ability; you could talk to entire schools of kids in some area's and like 1 or 2 out of classes might be able to do anything like that

You're not seeing, you're imagining.

"see" wasn't in " " for nothing

I honestly don't think the mark of the beast actually works

even if they marked my body with some foreign substance, wouldn't change my soul

Oh, you believe in the soul?

unless they didn't something like a lobotomy or some hack into my cerebrael nerves in the neck

that still wouldn't affect my soul, just my ability to function

its changing your DNA ; and preventing you from being able to dream/visulize/obe/remote view etc etc and in turn manifest experinces within divinity

without a doubt, the soul exists

So, what is the soul?

I think of the soul as a compass that is like a record of good and bad you have done in this existance

its an easy record of your life

Right

so at a glance a god can look at what you have done and determine where you should go in the afterlife

a god or angel can

GOD basically put souls into things to make his job easier

its a product of channeling; the bio-chemical and nerological components of the brain act like an electro magnetic reciever of sorts and based on how its designed/atuned (DNA and what kinda mindset its been grown into) change how/what you channel from the cosmic source of expression ; "Most" of western society is about the removal of thouse innate thought processes and using logical bs to enthrall your choices

How do you justify God?

I don't need to justify GOD

he exists, he does what he wants

He exists isn't a justification for his existence

Why do you believe him to exist is what I'm asking.

he doesn't need justification for his existance

he's a fact, it doesn't matter what you think

Ah. In Epistemology, that's a proposition we formally refer to as "nonsense."

even if everyone didn't realize he was around, he would still exist

he might even decide it was time to do away with this project

start anew

we got little say in the matter

He might, but until you can justify such things, it's just opinion.

so a link i posted here a long time ago showed how they map/imaged the patterns/shapes the brains nerons make when fireing during different trains of thoughts etc; and they found when processing these images/mapings the brain produces up to 11 dimentional shapes to "channel" the thoughts/words/emotions etc that we produce; and this aligns with a lot of essoteric/occult beliefes in the fact we are in essence synthetic expression within a matrix of electromagnetic reality

psalms 19.1

Surely even you could understand you're about engage in circular reasoning

firmament has been proven to exist, handiwork of GOD

If you really do believe in logic

your presuming I'm using reasoning

I'm not using reasoning to determine what is real

I'm using observations

Have you observed God?

reasoning is used to determine which model best represents reality

globe theory or flat earth theory

flat earth theory is more closer to reality

Mm, we're talking about God mate.

therefore GOD exists

So God is your opinions' validation?

bible is proven, at least old testament

the firmament might not be a phisical thing.... such as an energy projection/manifestation all it is if its within this reality is a product of "energy/light" being held in harmonic resonence within form/shape ; so what you gotta ask yourself is what "divine" entitiy would cage in a bubble world of dna test subjects to kill each other in unlawful "freedom" when they are products of layered construction... watch west world from HBO it'll paint reality for you real good lol

as I said before, it doesn't matter what I believe

truth is truth regardless of belief