you can believe he's telling you a lie, but it doesn't change the fact that its the truth

Okay, so you believe "truth" is a proposition that is in accordance with a material reality?

The sentence: "I am typing right now," is true becaue it's happening.

I believe truth is the truth regardless of what reality it happens to be in

So you think truth transcends reality, in a certain way?

some truth might be limited to the reality it finds itself, there can be alternate truths depending on the rules of that reality

truth is bound within experince; one's truth can be a lie to another

truth is not subjective

Well, Kevin, you said truth wasn't relative; you're now claiming it's relative to the limits of a reality in which it could exist in.

what I believe doesn't matter in terms of truth

like if i tell you i'm working hard; from anothers point of view it may look as tho i'm "working" up to hard not working through it and "thus" hard

I seek the truth, and use logic to determine what makes sense

whether I can determine that doesn't mean I will always find truth

I often ask people if they are working hard or hardly working

so if I told you planes claim to fly higher then thay do and use optical lensing to portray the lands bellow differently to make you think in essence your flying further then you are; would you say its "true" that they are distorting the scale of our landmasses?

Are you asking me or Kevin?

"both"

I don't think they can distort the scale of the landmasses that much, we have other methods like driving a car to determine how far stuff is

I'm in michigan, I drive to california takes roughly 1 day of driving, how can you distort the distance by airplanes

the fact is that they are using optical illusions and perspective wrongly to hide flat earth

when it comes to flat earth one of the biggest points is flight; how all flights going from bottom of south america to aussy for example "pass" near noth pole area's for "refueling" etc in essence there paths make sense on a flat earth map

using fish eye lenses

well, the flights in the south are a little wonky

antartica is the outer edge of flat earth

so boating around that continent is literally 100,000 miles in circumferance

I'm presuming this is why you think climate change is propaganda?

I.E. melting poles would destroy your model of Earth

climate change is reality

its not propoganda

you should look into the current ice rates at greenland for instance... they are growing back a lot

we have seasons, its fact

What's this Cilmate Propaganda signify, then?

shifting attentions; they don't want you to know the source

trying to say that global warming is happening or use other nonsensical terms to promote a bad agenda is not only lame, but detrimental to society at large

How highly do you value the scientific method?

scientific method is extremely useful when its done right, unfortunately its been used wrongly to derail the scientific community into dead end stuff

these days funding decides far to much of it; like at its core its good but modern times its trashy as fuck; they get and form experiments and collect/fabricate data sets out of selective studying and much more

you can't get past the firmament, so all this space exploration stuff is garbage, waste of resources

the fact that vaxxing is causing autism and that the scientific community won't release the facts and covering it up shows how bad the system has gotten

scientific method is failing because its being misused

Could you release the facts?