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I'd like to start seriously debating what, why, and how we can explore extra sensory perceptions, the life styles, mindsets and communities best for such progressions, and what materialistic things may be needed.
Personally I’m hoping to build a series of log cabins, close to open seas/rivers leading to the sea; along with a houseboat. With hopes of farming/fishing for most my food while slowly building up a small economy/trade based community. Ideally I want provide people the opportunity to explore spirituality without dogma; giving them a place and purpose to work/relax as they explore reality.
With my background in Electro-mechanical engineering and robotics/computer programing and experience in carpentry and the labour feild. I hope to automate much of the day to day work over time, and ideally market this “place” in 3 tiers. The labour force who work on expanding the community; Caretakers who provide support during sessions; Explorers who take substances etc for spiritual progression. “Most” people will ideally spend time in at least 2 of the 3 roles, but the hopes are to collectively harness these divine gifts and explore/expand our capabilities while providing a growing community to support more.
😉 not yet, i'm spiriutaly dead but growing closer
😄 i'm working again so progress within this matrix is coming along
so who's up to collectibly rent out a house/fishing boat and sail around the south pole to "see" how small it is?
only thing is, we gotta bring a shit load of shrooms
😉 that i will @Sparkles after all its no fun tripping by your self
well @DrPeper the thing is i'm not starting this thing as a stay for life kinda thing, mostly just renting out places for people to spend vacations, and offering some services if they so wish.
😄 well unless we get another greyson event (server closing) i'll be here along the way till the day and beyond its coming into reality
😹 as long as one of them dosen't mind helping me cook I'd love to
so on the whole, it won't last a generation thing, any examples i could read into of what "not" to do?
lol I don't wanna live off the grid, just we gonna build our own grid; and have some satilite uplink kinda dealio
to be honest I'm not even sure I'd want to make it into a lifestyle for "life" i'm sure you can only eat shrooms/dmt and meditate for so long before it really don't matter where you do it
well it’s just from the scope of information I've read into you only "need" some cabin in the woods kinda deal when you overcoming your ego and rooting yourself within a new world of spirituality. Once you get into the practice more and more (where talking months/years but not like 3 years i hope) eventually... hopefully you overcome enough demons that you don't require such extremes
but did you do them terence mckenna style?
so just wondering "why" are some of you here, like on this server? like is there any goal in mind?
@Sparkles okay... but for me "that" was a week or two at most abour 3 years ago... it lead directly into "occult"/essoteric teachings/views and beyond
right @Satan its why i'm not active on discord much these days
well for me it never did become clear that the shape of the earth mattered, because the background/surrounding stuff all pointed towards this just being a "dream" state that our souls are bound to by default. so there is no need for anything beyond the earth in this "tutorial" land so to speak, but the fact is once you expand your soul's potential or what not, when you awake the next day you might embody a avatar within a world of greater potential such as space etc
well for most people it leads them into the thoughts regarding "god" or some overarching intelligence, the main differencing being sphere earth=science-godless ignorance and do as tho will. While flat earth means there’s a creator, and a judgment, spirituality etc
Honestly the reality I’ve come to find most true lies in these few views.
The god of this world is one of blood, war, and worship; referred to as satan/mother earth
The God is one of lifeless/timeless/egoless justice, one who does not force his will upon any and all for there good or not, but will come to those through the love of others/luck... potentially.
And lastly being that within our reality is the potential to take “dream” states to depths of internal reflection/growth beyond that of anything most people can comprehend. This journey brings greater depths to passions/emotions and thus to life itself.
Could ramble on for hours about this kinda stuff
To be really honest tho, even “those” views are not 100% even in my own mind lol there are so many ways to look at it that i can’t be 100% about anything
Its why i stopped looking for egotistical justifications for actions beyond my own comprehension within systems of expression with whom i’m ignorant of
God is not god, two things very different that the christain bible draws no meaning from
Well in the context I’m meaning it from, god is referred to as the worldly god, the one of this world. While God is the one beyond and of the background energies that make up reality, the God of light/love who is the operating system god and us work within
god is an expression of ego, God is the expression of egolessness
maybe idk, there's so many ways to look at these things that in the end all that really matters is what/who/how you act
those are not the words of "God" but egoistic words of fearful men
one thing many of my studies lead to was just how much of the bible is fear mongering bullshit from worldly/satanic men pushing dogma for their own power over damnation
The act of channeling is one done through the lense of ego, and thus the interpirations/inspirations are easily tainted by fear/lusts. It’s within the yin yang like nature of truths and lies within the bible that you can pick apart what is of “God” and god
Personally I believe the creative nature of humanity among the masses within their ability to “imagine”/visualize and thus synthesize externalized sensory inputs has lead many to dogmatic indoctrinations of their own creation... furthermore its come to my knowledge that within these potentials of visualization etc that “others” can take shape/form and manipulate/interact within said realms beyond the flesh, and its within these altered states of mind/manifestation that many are brought into terms with “reality” through fear/control of forces that may very well be of their own creation, or worse yet of those around them. To be honest the whole Illuminati thing just references just how deep these extra sensory perceptions are within the public domain/society.
^^^ something like that is my beliefe too
but God=opperating system all runs within
well God could be the background controler of stuff like that, but most likely "god" is the one who makes shit hit the fan, and God allows it but in his own way/time idk lol its a lot of circular logic to be honest
one "real" world tip is that we each have the ability to internaly create words of ower own desire, thus we can break the chains the demiurge has over our souls
Some of the stuff I read a long while back spoke about how 2012 was suppose to be the marker of a global shifting of energy; where this “old” energy that empowered a lot of fear/power lust etc was starting to weaken, and thus today we have fewer people who feel empowered within rape/war etc. Now weather that’s a product of humanity on a whole or of cosmic gods beyond i can’t say, just that the very thought of this concept breeds more “light” within reality so who’s to say.
Gotta say Light, you should give the emerald tablets of thoth a read
“People” like mindless leadership, the burden of thought is to much for many so the price to pay for thoughtlessness is often a form of slavery they conform too; it’s not that something/somebody is brainwashing them, its they they seek to be comfortably numb within there sins; if they had to be perfect they’d want everything to be perfect for them, thus many don’t seek beyond what they do.
nah we just need less shareholder “ran” corporations, we need companies where the employee’s are the shareholders and the communities/people they provide for are the driving force behind change.... Not bigger cuts for investors etc
Well here’s the thing, if each community/city etc backed specific farms etc rather than walmart and other middle men, then the “power” over sales these money hungry beasts have will dwindle
Well light the problem comes from the sources of said parts, if “we” collectively shift like this the systems that provide these machines/components will shut down and you’ll need some local shop etc to build your 40 thousand dollar part
One thing i look forward to regarding this kinda “shift” is more personalized products and relationships with creators, like imagine working with your mechanics to slowly build your dream car etc and it not costing you 20 grand
mmm well that’s just because he isn't knowledgeable in the "future” potential within hydroponics etc
so what are your guys views of dna, I've heard a lot of crazy shit, mostly all pointing towards “us” being a product of higher intelligences (emerald tablets of thoth)
Here, outside chilling with drink, ready to embrace the souls till dawn and beyond
Honestly hope to get into some heartfelt and/or passionate conversations...after u get down a few drinks ;)
Had a blond Irish beer; guiness for lack of better spelling; and a fax 10% ; working on a ice cold bottle of luxardo atm :3
Well I found a side job while I build up the body to go back to my old job after the winter, so I'll be dabbling in materialistic pleasures for a time to come :3
So I'll be in vc lounge for a bit if yous care to chat
@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ sounds good m8
Alright I'm seated and ready, not buzzed but green; let's get talking whenever your green
Don't forget about crippling indoctrination of the masses; inducing self sustainable insanity within a crippled state of non-divinity; all to be wage slaves for a military industrial system... "god is great" as they say...
anything from metaphisical "telepathic" divine "ki" energy work/meditation altered states of mind etc, to the psy op like nature of indoctrination within religion,news,history, etc
mmmmkay just saying its probably more a product of experince/you.... just saying a lot of people do it, it just takes time to get used to
😄 times all we have, I'll look forward to the day you join us. So what are your beliefes in the potential of dream like states of altered reality?
you know how you can "see" behind closed eye's, and dreams are in essence "you" within a "reality" of unrealistic constraints? well have you studied the potential intensities/complexities of "that" state of minds ability to expand your understanding and ability to harness/embody greater passions etc
I just mean have you looked into the art of expanding this state of mind
okay, well from what I've read over the years I've found that one source of true freedom lies within this state of mind. Being that once you can embody passion/emotional focus of willpower etc these "dreams" will grow in length/intensity/complexity etc and for some they last days upon weeks etc every night; some learn to "keep" the dream going in the background, where they blink and focus for a bit and are there again etc, a lot of meditation in later stages comes down to "dreaming" reality and in turn reality becomes the dream, and thus "your" reality becomes an expression of dream like nature, but by that point your dreams are something unlike i could ever describe
It gets to a point where going to sleep “here” is akin to unplugging from the body and entering an infinite network of expression in which your intention throws you through a spectrum of consciousness until “reality” manifests around you based upon the mindset/emotions etc going into this state
well you see creativity, and “much” of what we are/do is a product of the subconsciousness of which we are an expression of. By “mastering” these altered states of mind to one degree or another you in turn learn how to harness “focus” and willpower within passions/emotions etc to intensities beyond that of what would be otherwise egotistical and empty/superficial. So if you want to be able to sing/write music, etc, play instruments or follow your dreams, well it helps to be able to live those dreams and “live” through far greater experiences to draw passions from
lol hell no, I've studied this kinda thing from many points of view because i fundamentally lacked the very essence of this to such a degree my previous depression was a state of perpetual self induced numbing denial. I only point towards the road/path that we and many have followed, in time i hope to grow upon this too
For the majority of my life I’ve only ever had short 10-30 second dreams of lucidity usually waking up as if pulled from said dream state; furthermore the nature of said dreams was very… artificial as if being studied/tested; so I never felt rooted within the moment and easily drew myself out of them.
As of a month ish ago I started trying to go to sleep with intent, trying to “enter” the void of darkness behind closed eyes and let my mind create visualizations of its own flourishion. This has more or less been peekaboo with my innate, in short it “showing” me some vague/fuzzy image until I “see” it and try focusing then lose it, usually takes anywhere from 5-20min to get one, and about 3 seconds to loose it… to say i’m bad is a understatement.
On a brighter note, I’ve had some luck within harmonization, or rather dissonance; being I’ve had a few dreams enwich i could embody a feeling/tone within the mind to a degree that reality echo’s the intention; such as flight or levitation… mostly ends in me getting pulled out of the dream tho.
@Soldz (CF) what do you hope to get from your studies "here" and on these topics?
well here's the thing, the only "truth" you have is what your 5 senses show/tell you; but many views tell you these are the only tools in which your enthralled before; so in short the only truths you can every really have are the ones you create to be true, as every product of experience can be manipulated through perceptions to create the responses they demand… and that’s not even getting into the nature of what we call ourself; being a product of knowing. Mk ultra like programs and of the likes have shown just how “easily” the mind can be overwritten/modified; how entire personalities can be inserted/removed and more.
So what it really comes down to is what needs to be true to do what you do, and what needs to be true to do what you want to do?
~~Glad to see we got another mind brimming with critical thoughts...~~
Lets debate the nature of understanding the mainstream portrays; like how they prescribe elements of divinity/biology to fantasy; how the supernatural is made out to be a product of external powers; etc
So one in particular is the pineal gland
Calcification is a word used to describe many of them during biopsies
Well from my understanding Chakras are a mental construct; a tool of the mind, while very powerful, not necessary
Well the act of decalcification in and of itself has nothing to do with opening your third eye
lol can't vouch for cocaine, but weed has personally lead to my strongest breakthroughts in the early stages
the only drug you "need" is DMT, maybe LSD, and kinda shrooms
the point is to enter altered states of reality/mind where you can "grow" beyond what you know yourself to be
well to agree with Citizen's view, you honestly don't "need" any external substances, because only with the right depths of focus can you utilize substances in the first place... spent years smoking just to get high, but after over a year of being clean and meditation only then was it a different experince (micro doseing as well)
Hey we should debate the nature of schizophrenia
Because beyond the definition of a form of insanity, it’s a broad term put on top of a broad subject
For example the art of self induce schizophrenia is referred to as tulipa ; a method of creating a thematic internal voice disassociated/distinct from your own, of its own accord/knowing yet only within your mind.
I’ve personally been able to cast my own internal voice into the depths of the “void” to a degree enough that its “echo’d” back in other tones/voices without any of my own thought, as if hearing them from afar.
So what i’m saying is my own experiences and that of those wrote about through many different styles of Occult practices all outline the same system of focuses that produce meaningful “schizophrenia” ; so perhaps “schizophrenia” itself is just the state of uncontrolled input like a radio that can’t be turned off or tuned.
So my point is, entire sects of society, “groups” of individuals that slowly attune to this aspect of their humanity, through nothing but their own natural progression of biology enter the realization that they can hear others thoughts. There’s entire theories based around this concept; that a good deal of humanity is/can connect to this human thought form frequency
Granted this could be just a form of mass delusion; where people “portray” their inner voice as those around and as such produce their own “skin” of thoughts of those around… this could in turn be a system of reverse schicology the brain uses on itself, on the ego to drive it to actions that it thinks its bringing out of its own accord.
I'm not saying these things as fact, or even as potential fact, mearly food for thought to build off of and talk about
really pondering the potential "inner" workings of a society many of us arn't apart of that leads to many logical justifications of "for the greater good" is toxic?
@Soldz (CF) the systems of logic that the people trapped within these delusions use "for the greater good" as there justifications for actions based upon these "voices" they hear within there heads that they atribute to being able to hear anothers thoughts
not really, they are the product of dozens of views. So to say they are my own thoughts is like saying all the lego's and subject mater around it was not of others efforts
this is the main channel that will paint the full picture; warning if you don't watch "nearly" all of his video's you most likely won't have a full picture/understanding of it
@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧
this would also be one of the best channels I'd recomend for you to watch; many great debates to be had over his content
Well he talks mostly about the social aspects of an awakening population
such as the taboo nature of reality within these extra sensory abilities that "many" are growing into
If anybody wants some sources of alternative/occult information; one degree or another these channels will drive you down the kinda road this channel stands for
Its more or less what I've been growing into over the last ~3 years ish
@Citizen Z I didn't believe you where talking "just" to me as you where saying have any of you; added you constantly try'd to speak over us as we spoke to ask... again and again without response... sorry we all didn't just yell "NO" but it felt rude in every sense to even dignify such abrupt questing with a response
lol well that was just kinda my view on what happened, i agree we or somebody should have said something; personally i'm sorry i didn't handle that better
Best Of The Global Reality - The Emerald Tablets of Thoth
if you could dream upon this, embody the core of this within visulizations I bet it wouldn't take long to get something usefull
to be honest it don't sound like he even loves her for who she is, but what she is
"Lab" productions 2.0 eh wonder what happened to 1.0 FBI?
@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ have you ever wondered if others channel from the same angel?
statistics eh, its almost like by having millions upon millions of them around each other while having what like less than 1% being terrorists
what do you mean it got hosed lol they still have a website
ya now they get free reign on there own platform
These are the satanic influences working through puppets
@Soldz (CF) whats your top 3 hardy meals to make?
I'd love to talk about the psi-op nature of this (granted i do believe in the pedo ring being a real thing; just the idea of it plays quite the impact on people and i feel as tho it could be used as a tool as well)
I've personally spent enough time hearing this kinda sick shit to know beyond a doubte that "this" is a reality, now to what degree is up for debate as only god knows the depths of deprivety they've brought about within reality; but to say there's nothing to it is like looking the wolf in sheeps cloths in the eye's and not seeing the beast within
because he's one fool who acted without thinking it out fully
honestly when it comes down to it all that matters is we wake up the people working within the military industrial complex; we need to create alternate paths for them to provide for there families within that will last a life time else we still gonna have an army of "tards" fighting for commands handed down by the forces of big money
low key we "see" the curve because magnetic energies flowing through the air create a slight pattern that bends light and thus we "see" a warp
yet if planes fly "by" it you can see a hot spot equal size to the sun directly upon the clouds bellow
its okay if they die from it there faith was weak
sorry if anybody said something to me in the last min or so since i spoke i couldn't hear
ya they got there first snipers after the dinner flag was out of view from the nude eye
@Sofa Kang jackass "science" has nearly proven to a 99% odds we are in a simulation
the greatest strength of fighting a retard is no matter what they are "write" 😉 lol
I've prey'd to god so many times that i never buy taco bell again; its not worth a seat in hell 😄
ya because the soul of the sweat shop that made him for 0.05 and the soul of that 8 year old is trapped in pikachu
agreed but men of "logic" seek luciferian justifications within there indoctrinations
Anybody can convey a thought within forms; but very few can interpret those long past there writing
@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS don't ya know it's on the Internet! It must be true!!!
Honestly 99% of the truth people find in Christ is just a view that sedates there pride/lusts; its nothing more than a blue pill
@Samwise the thing is "Satan" is a multi-faced god ; and getting closer to God in turn opens you up to god ; so when people in this "Godly" state of bliss read the bible the state of mind they pull thoughts from is "higher" thus the meaning they get is more profound ; in essence its just the same skin of mindfullness/meditation that nearly all occult/esoteric practices induces
achuly the "divine" nature of God/god is very robotic in nature; in essence you "channel" thoughts from a cloud/hive mind expression that under writes reality ; its the whole reason many think this reality is artifical
@Satan This is why a lot of "new" age stuff has taken the view that the snake in the garden of Eden was a saviour showing the two how "god" was the mad god of blood ; and they build off it from there... its this blind loop of energy that bind many within this satanic world of ignorance
@Satan Okay so in short ; god is satan of this world ; the lie's of "god" are the keys of salvation ; thus many of the demonized aspects of reality/biology/divinity like dream states/visulization etc are the "core" mechanics of salvation ; not this liveing in light until death lol
BUT just saying through the depths of this research i have to say the mindset of what @Deleted User embodies is in fact one stronge part of obtaining this path of progression so she's not wrong or anything just not seeking further expressions of this divinity
what it really comes down to is "satan"/god made this world but "God" made the operating system this world works within; so its like seeing the messages within the system not of the system
ya a lot of what we creativly express is from God ; and is to show deeper expressions of duality/reality ; a lot of it is to inspire dreams inwhich you can embody more passionate/intense emotions to express/fullfill yourself during the waking life etc
she made perfect sense to me ; just it takes a lot of objective information and points of critical thinking to see where she draws from... all things many people who hold no views never try and seek in the first place
the point of it being pseudoscience isn't that "gravity" isn't "real" its just the definition of it is absolute in and of itself as being a mechanical product of matter ; while in "reality" it could be a very artifical system based within the energy/magnetic nature of reality and thus a product of our current expression of duality... in lamens terms our current reality most likely is just a pre-set of sorts echo'ing the nature of humanities collective soul ; thus empowering many beliefes within meditation/ocult/esoteric teachings
your not producing debatable things your asking for views/points
exactly its not our short coming that stops anybody from picking apart any/every word we talk about ; its his lack of critical thinking and/or background knowledge to be able to product debateable points to talk about
@Samwise what systems of expression in your mind produce reality?
( I should say what alternative systems have you entertained the thought of)
can you talk about the fall of communism or how to avoid aspects of communism?
to be fair what "we" CND/USA have only works because the shadows at play make/let it work
nah cats are for people who care not to embrace the outside world ; if you care for walks outside you'll care for a dog... but we got 2 cats and a dog here
hope you've been drinking/smoking when you endulge in this kinda "stuff"
@BBQ Sauce shut yo mouth lol Louis can't hear ya
if you wanna invest into something start a series of interconnected jobs
what if the firmament isn't a solid structure but a "field"/product of electromagnetic energies ionizing/polarizing particles?
lol thats last decades concept old man get with the times!
nah the problem is your not looking into the background systems of reality that create these expressions/experinces ; the 5 senses are artifical products of this experince ; thus "things" that come to you through them are in nature formless taking on artifical forms that align with your innates thoughts forms that resemble there intentions etc etc
@Christmas EveryDay you don't need to get so defensive; learn to see your cognitive dissonance, it’s a defensive reaction to conflicting inspiration. Aka if your “knowledge/experience” has emotion behind it and something is trying to get you to draw from that stuff the emotional significance comes through as a negative emotional response creating a defensive mentality to reject conflicting information.
@DrPeper is forgetting the most important thing MURICA "cracks open a few brewksies over sports ball"
@Christmas EveryDay what kinda luck have you had with esp (remote viewing, manifesting disassociated voices etc)
@[Ex-Mitch] 21.2.19 nah its you waking up into a body within an alternate reality
@[Ex-Mitch] 21.2.19 well the next runner up in my oppionion is they "filter" the expression/throughtforms energy signature that creates it within reality and augment is thus changing what it manifests as within reality
so whats the deal with spider man; is his wall climbing power symbolic for some kinda energy magnetic harmonization or some jazz?
@Deleted User your last bible study post really clicked with me; gonna loop a few parts of that video to create a focused meditation upon the visual; letcha know if i get anything out of it
meant the "same" systems of energy at play at higher/further levels could be the source of said firmament; or the Allen radiation belts are just lie's used to justify there inaction
glad to see the smartest slapping each other with the depths of their intellect
Anybody up to talk about the possibilities within “aliens” ; such as origins, our connection to them etc
really crazy idea but what if the reason plants have green spots they get energy from the sun from is because the wavelength of energy of heart being green is in harmony with source and thus appears green? #thinkdifferent
lie's break the cycle mannnn; its "more" likely they put off said energy because its in harmony with what it embodies
I know, very indoctrinated theories, great at reinforcing themselves like the bible; says its the word of god there for its the word of god
I mean its not like a "farout" joke to materilists lol put some pants on and calm down there
when it starts with really crazy idea but ; i wouldn't take it seriously
I don't simply "reject" it I just hold skepticisim towards its origins
nah i beleive you can see it lol its just I'm open to systems of manifestation that underline reality and co-manifest said "show" we watch in the flesh; like a system of energies that create a backbone to the material etc
nah its a space ship; didn't you hear when they let a section from a space craft impact it rang like a bell for well over an hour; and on top of that ossilated with an artifical softening as time went on
tbh at this point "microscope" lenses could just be illusionary freemasonic witch craft to "let" you see whats not there through a system of demonic contortion lol but who knows trololol
@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS I spent 2 years trying to get a "bit" of every level ; but i never dwell on any of them ; the only thing that got me through all those years/time was mindfullness of not dwelling on what if's. I can't take shrooms because of it lol ; the shit i'd come to terms with was next level davic icke stuff
I mean i could understand when they started finding dogs growing 2 tails and what not but cats growing wings like wtf
nah they don't fly with em; its just left over gene's getting clicked on enough to sprout shitty wings
oh if we gonna talk history lets talk about the underlineing deception behind egypt like how 90% of what we know is all bull shit; or how dino's basicly are compleatly fabricated
like as in the original creators of the great pryamids predate current estimates of humanity
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