Ooo snap, what kinda convos brewing tonight?

I'd like to start seriously debating what, why, and how we can explore extra sensory perceptions, the life styles, mindsets and communities best for such progressions, and what materialistic things may be needed.

Personally I’m hoping to build a series of log cabins, close to open seas/rivers leading to the sea; along with a houseboat. With hopes of farming/fishing for most my food while slowly building up a small economy/trade based community. Ideally I want provide people the opportunity to explore spirituality without dogma; giving them a place and purpose to work/relax as they explore reality.

With my background in Electro-mechanical engineering and robotics/computer programing and experience in carpentry and the labour feild. I hope to automate much of the day to day work over time, and ideally market this “place” in 3 tiers. The labour force who work on expanding the community; Caretakers who provide support during sessions; Explorers who take substances etc for spiritual progression. “Most” people will ideally spend time in at least 2 of the 3 roles, but the hopes are to collectively harness these divine gifts and explore/expand our capabilities while providing a growing community to support more.

😉 not yet, i'm spiriutaly dead but growing closer

😄 i'm working again so progress within this matrix is coming along

so who's up to collectibly rent out a house/fishing boat and sail around the south pole to "see" how small it is?

only thing is, we gotta bring a shit load of shrooms

😉 that i will @Sparkles after all its no fun tripping by your self

well @DrPeper the thing is i'm not starting this thing as a stay for life kinda thing, mostly just renting out places for people to spend vacations, and offering some services if they so wish.

😄 well unless we get another greyson event (server closing) i'll be here along the way till the day and beyond its coming into reality

😹 as long as one of them dosen't mind helping me cook I'd love to

otf?

oh i'm otf i suppose too then

so on the whole, it won't last a generation thing, any examples i could read into of what "not" to do?

lol I don't wanna live off the grid, just we gonna build our own grid; and have some satilite uplink kinda dealio

to be honest I'm not even sure I'd want to make it into a lifestyle for "life" i'm sure you can only eat shrooms/dmt and meditate for so long before it really don't matter where you do it

well it’s just from the scope of information I've read into you only "need" some cabin in the woods kinda deal when you overcoming your ego and rooting yourself within a new world of spirituality. Once you get into the practice more and more (where talking months/years but not like 3 years i hope) eventually... hopefully you overcome enough demons that you don't require such extremes

but did you do them terence mckenna style?

so just wondering "why" are some of you here, like on this server? like is there any goal in mind?

@Sparkles okay... but for me "that" was a week or two at most abour 3 years ago... it lead directly into "occult"/essoteric teachings/views and beyond

right @Satan its why i'm not active on discord much these days

well for me it never did become clear that the shape of the earth mattered, because the background/surrounding stuff all pointed towards this just being a "dream" state that our souls are bound to by default. so there is no need for anything beyond the earth in this "tutorial" land so to speak, but the fact is once you expand your soul's potential or what not, when you awake the next day you might embody a avatar within a world of greater potential such as space etc

well for most people it leads them into the thoughts regarding "god" or some overarching intelligence, the main differencing being sphere earth=science-godless ignorance and do as tho will. While flat earth means there’s a creator, and a judgment, spirituality etc

Honestly the reality I’ve come to find most true lies in these few views.

The god of this world is one of blood, war, and worship; referred to as satan/mother earth

The God is one of lifeless/timeless/egoless justice, one who does not force his will upon any and all for there good or not, but will come to those through the love of others/luck... potentially.

And lastly being that within our reality is the potential to take “dream” states to depths of internal reflection/growth beyond that of anything most people can comprehend. This journey brings greater depths to passions/emotions and thus to life itself.

Could ramble on for hours about this kinda stuff

To be really honest tho, even “those” views are not 100% even in my own mind lol there are so many ways to look at it that i can’t be 100% about anything

Its why i stopped looking for egotistical justifications for actions beyond my own comprehension within systems of expression with whom i’m ignorant of

God is not god, two things very different that the christain bible draws no meaning from

Well in the context I’m meaning it from, god is referred to as the worldly god, the one of this world. While God is the one beyond and of the background energies that make up reality, the God of light/love who is the operating system god and us work within

god is an expression of ego, God is the expression of egolessness

maybe idk, there's so many ways to look at these things that in the end all that really matters is what/who/how you act

those are not the words of "God" but egoistic words of fearful men

one thing many of my studies lead to was just how much of the bible is fear mongering bullshit from worldly/satanic men pushing dogma for their own power over damnation

The act of channeling is one done through the lense of ego, and thus the interpirations/inspirations are easily tainted by fear/lusts. It’s within the yin yang like nature of truths and lies within the bible that you can pick apart what is of “God” and god

Personally I believe the creative nature of humanity among the masses within their ability to “imagine”/visualize and thus synthesize externalized sensory inputs has lead many to dogmatic indoctrinations of their own creation... furthermore its come to my knowledge that within these potentials of visualization etc that “others” can take shape/form and manipulate/interact within said realms beyond the flesh, and its within these altered states of mind/manifestation that many are brought into terms with “reality” through fear/control of forces that may very well be of their own creation, or worse yet of those around them. To be honest the whole Illuminati thing just references just how deep these extra sensory perceptions are within the public domain/society.

^^^ something like that is my beliefe too

Demiurge=god

but God=opperating system all runs within

well God could be the background controler of stuff like that, but most likely "god" is the one who makes shit hit the fan, and God allows it but in his own way/time idk lol its a lot of circular logic to be honest

one "real" world tip is that we each have the ability to internaly create words of ower own desire, thus we can break the chains the demiurge has over our souls

Some of the stuff I read a long while back spoke about how 2012 was suppose to be the marker of a global shifting of energy; where this “old” energy that empowered a lot of fear/power lust etc was starting to weaken, and thus today we have fewer people who feel empowered within rape/war etc. Now weather that’s a product of humanity on a whole or of cosmic gods beyond i can’t say, just that the very thought of this concept breeds more “light” within reality so who’s to say.

Gotta say Light, you should give the emerald tablets of thoth a read

“People” like mindless leadership, the burden of thought is to much for many so the price to pay for thoughtlessness is often a form of slavery they conform too; it’s not that something/somebody is brainwashing them, its they they seek to be comfortably numb within there sins; if they had to be perfect they’d want everything to be perfect for them, thus many don’t seek beyond what they do.

nah we just need less shareholder “ran” corporations, we need companies where the employee’s are the shareholders and the communities/people they provide for are the driving force behind change.... Not bigger cuts for investors etc

Well here’s the thing, if each community/city etc backed specific farms etc rather than walmart and other middle men, then the “power” over sales these money hungry beasts have will dwindle

Well light the problem comes from the sources of said parts, if “we” collectively shift like this the systems that provide these machines/components will shut down and you’ll need some local shop etc to build your 40 thousand dollar part

One thing i look forward to regarding this kinda “shift” is more personalized products and relationships with creators, like imagine working with your mechanics to slowly build your dream car etc and it not costing you 20 grand

mmm well that’s just because he isn't knowledgeable in the "future” potential within hydroponics etc

so what are your guys views of dna, I've heard a lot of crazy shit, mostly all pointing towards “us” being a product of higher intelligences (emerald tablets of thoth)

Here, outside chilling with drink, ready to embrace the souls till dawn and beyond

Honestly hope to get into some heartfelt and/or passionate conversations...after u get down a few drinks ;)

Had a blond Irish beer; guiness for lack of better spelling; and a fax 10% ; working on a ice cold bottle of luxardo atm :3

Well I found a side job while I build up the body to go back to my old job after the winter, so I'll be dabbling in materialistic pleasures for a time to come :3

So I'll be in vc lounge for a bit if yous care to chat

@✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ sounds good m8

Alright I'm seated and ready, not buzzed but green; let's get talking whenever your green

What's cooking folks

so how's ma party people doing tonight?

Don't forget about crippling indoctrination of the masses; inducing self sustainable insanity within a crippled state of non-divinity; all to be wage slaves for a military industrial system... "god is great" as they say...

anybootay up to chat about crazy shit?

anything from metaphisical "telepathic" divine "ki" energy work/meditation altered states of mind etc, to the psy op like nature of indoctrination within religion,news,history, etc

so would you care to vc regarding it?

*cough* lame

mind me asking how old you are?

so what is it that drove you to this?

not voice chatting

mmmmkay just saying its probably more a product of experince/you.... just saying a lot of people do it, it just takes time to get used to

😄 times all we have, I'll look forward to the day you join us. So what are your beliefes in the potential of dream like states of altered reality?

you know how you can "see" behind closed eye's, and dreams are in essence "you" within a "reality" of unrealistic constraints? well have you studied the potential intensities/complexities of "that" state of minds ability to expand your understanding and ability to harness/embody greater passions etc

I just mean have you looked into the art of expanding this state of mind

okay, well from what I've read over the years I've found that one source of true freedom lies within this state of mind. Being that once you can embody passion/emotional focus of willpower etc these "dreams" will grow in length/intensity/complexity etc and for some they last days upon weeks etc every night; some learn to "keep" the dream going in the background, where they blink and focus for a bit and are there again etc, a lot of meditation in later stages comes down to "dreaming" reality and in turn reality becomes the dream, and thus "your" reality becomes an expression of dream like nature, but by that point your dreams are something unlike i could ever describe

It gets to a point where going to sleep “here” is akin to unplugging from the body and entering an infinite network of expression in which your intention throws you through a spectrum of consciousness until “reality” manifests around you based upon the mindset/emotions etc going into this state

well you see creativity, and “much” of what we are/do is a product of the subconsciousness of which we are an expression of. By “mastering” these altered states of mind to one degree or another you in turn learn how to harness “focus” and willpower within passions/emotions etc to intensities beyond that of what would be otherwise egotistical and empty/superficial. So if you want to be able to sing/write music, etc, play instruments or follow your dreams, well it helps to be able to live those dreams and “live” through far greater experiences to draw passions from

lol hell no, I've studied this kinda thing from many points of view because i fundamentally lacked the very essence of this to such a degree my previous depression was a state of perpetual self induced numbing denial. I only point towards the road/path that we and many have followed, in time i hope to grow upon this too

For the majority of my life I’ve only ever had short 10-30 second dreams of lucidity usually waking up as if pulled from said dream state; furthermore the nature of said dreams was very… artificial as if being studied/tested; so I never felt rooted within the moment and easily drew myself out of them.

As of a month ish ago I started trying to go to sleep with intent, trying to “enter” the void of darkness behind closed eyes and let my mind create visualizations of its own flourishion. This has more or less been peekaboo with my innate, in short it “showing” me some vague/fuzzy image until I “see” it and try focusing then lose it, usually takes anywhere from 5-20min to get one, and about 3 seconds to loose it… to say i’m bad is a understatement.

On a brighter note, I’ve had some luck within harmonization, or rather dissonance; being I’ve had a few dreams enwich i could embody a feeling/tone within the mind to a degree that reality echo’s the intention; such as flight or levitation… mostly ends in me getting pulled out of the dream tho.

@Soldz (CF) what do you hope to get from your studies "here" and on these topics?

well here's the thing, the only "truth" you have is what your 5 senses show/tell you; but many views tell you these are the only tools in which your enthralled before; so in short the only truths you can every really have are the ones you create to be true, as every product of experience can be manipulated through perceptions to create the responses they demand… and that’s not even getting into the nature of what we call ourself; being a product of knowing. Mk ultra like programs and of the likes have shown just how “easily” the mind can be overwritten/modified; how entire personalities can be inserted/removed and more.

So what it really comes down to is what needs to be true to do what you do, and what needs to be true to do what you want to do?

~~Glad to see we got another mind brimming with critical thoughts...~~

cool cool

chilling on a little game

Lets debate the nature of understanding the mainstream portrays; like how they prescribe elements of divinity/biology to fantasy; how the supernatural is made out to be a product of external powers; etc

So one in particular is the pineal gland

Calcification is a word used to describe many of them during biopsies

Well from my understanding Chakras are a mental construct; a tool of the mind, while very powerful, not necessary

Well the act of decalcification in and of itself has nothing to do with opening your third eye

lol can't vouch for cocaine, but weed has personally lead to my strongest breakthroughts in the early stages

the only drug you "need" is DMT, maybe LSD, and kinda shrooms

the point is to enter altered states of reality/mind where you can "grow" beyond what you know yourself to be

well to agree with Citizen's view, you honestly don't "need" any external substances, because only with the right depths of focus can you utilize substances in the first place... spent years smoking just to get high, but after over a year of being clean and meditation only then was it a different experince (micro doseing as well)

Hey we should debate the nature of schizophrenia

Because beyond the definition of a form of insanity, it’s a broad term put on top of a broad subject

For example the art of self induce schizophrenia is referred to as tulipa ; a method of creating a thematic internal voice disassociated/distinct from your own, of its own accord/knowing yet only within your mind.

I’ve personally been able to cast my own internal voice into the depths of the “void” to a degree enough that its “echo’d” back in other tones/voices without any of my own thought, as if hearing them from afar.

So what i’m saying is my own experiences and that of those wrote about through many different styles of Occult practices all outline the same system of focuses that produce meaningful “schizophrenia” ; so perhaps “schizophrenia” itself is just the state of uncontrolled input like a radio that can’t be turned off or tuned.

So my point is, entire sects of society, “groups” of individuals that slowly attune to this aspect of their humanity, through nothing but their own natural progression of biology enter the realization that they can hear others thoughts. There’s entire theories based around this concept; that a good deal of humanity is/can connect to this human thought form frequency

Granted this could be just a form of mass delusion; where people “portray” their inner voice as those around and as such produce their own “skin” of thoughts of those around… this could in turn be a system of reverse schicology the brain uses on itself, on the ego to drive it to actions that it thinks its bringing out of its own accord.

psychology*

I'm not saying these things as fact, or even as potential fact, mearly food for thought to build off of and talk about

really pondering the potential "inner" workings of a society many of us arn't apart of that leads to many logical justifications of "for the greater good" is toxic?

@Soldz (CF) the systems of logic that the people trapped within these delusions use "for the greater good" as there justifications for actions based upon these "voices" they hear within there heads that they atribute to being able to hear anothers thoughts

not really, they are the product of dozens of views. So to say they are my own thoughts is like saying all the lego's and subject mater around it was not of others efforts