Mr.J

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2018-08-31 03:58:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2018-08-31 04:10:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Ooo snap, what kinda convos brewing tonight?

2018-08-31 20:06:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

I'd like to start seriously debating what, why, and how we can explore extra sensory perceptions, the life styles, mindsets and communities best for such progressions, and what materialistic things may be needed.

Personally Iโ€™m hoping to build a series of log cabins, close to open seas/rivers leading to the sea; along with a houseboat. With hopes of farming/fishing for most my food while slowly building up a small economy/trade based community. Ideally I want provide people the opportunity to explore spirituality without dogma; giving them a place and purpose to work/relax as they explore reality.

With my background in Electro-mechanical engineering and robotics/computer programing and experience in carpentry and the labour feild. I hope to automate much of the day to day work over time, and ideally market this โ€œplaceโ€ in 3 tiers. The labour force who work on expanding the community; Caretakers who provide support during sessions; Explorers who take substances etc for spiritual progression. โ€œMostโ€ people will ideally spend time in at least 2 of the 3 roles, but the hopes are to collectively harness these divine gifts and explore/expand our capabilities while providing a growing community to support more.

2018-08-31 20:08:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

๐Ÿ˜‰ not yet, i'm spiriutaly dead but growing closer

2018-08-31 20:09:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

๐Ÿ˜„ i'm working again so progress within this matrix is coming along

2018-08-31 20:11:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

so who's up to collectibly rent out a house/fishing boat and sail around the south pole to "see" how small it is?

2018-08-31 20:11:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

only thing is, we gotta bring a shit load of shrooms

2018-08-31 20:13:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

๐Ÿ˜‰ that i will @Sparkles after all its no fun tripping by your self

2018-08-31 20:13:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

well @DrPeper the thing is i'm not starting this thing as a stay for life kinda thing, mostly just renting out places for people to spend vacations, and offering some services if they so wish.

2018-08-31 20:14:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

๐Ÿ˜„ well unless we get another greyson event (server closing) i'll be here along the way till the day and beyond its coming into reality

2018-08-31 20:16:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

๐Ÿ˜น as long as one of them dosen't mind helping me cook I'd love to

2018-08-31 20:17:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

otf?

2018-08-31 20:17:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

oh i'm otf i suppose too then

2018-08-31 20:18:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

so on the whole, it won't last a generation thing, any examples i could read into of what "not" to do?

2018-08-31 20:20:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

lol I don't wanna live off the grid, just we gonna build our own grid; and have some satilite uplink kinda dealio

2018-08-31 20:28:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

to be honest I'm not even sure I'd want to make it into a lifestyle for "life" i'm sure you can only eat shrooms/dmt and meditate for so long before it really don't matter where you do it

2018-08-31 20:31:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

well itโ€™s just from the scope of information I've read into you only "need" some cabin in the woods kinda deal when you overcoming your ego and rooting yourself within a new world of spirituality. Once you get into the practice more and more (where talking months/years but not like 3 years i hope) eventually... hopefully you overcome enough demons that you don't require such extremes

2018-08-31 20:31:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

but did you do them terence mckenna style?

2018-08-31 20:33:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

so just wondering "why" are some of you here, like on this server? like is there any goal in mind?

2018-08-31 20:34:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

@Sparkles okay... but for me "that" was a week or two at most abour 3 years ago... it lead directly into "occult"/essoteric teachings/views and beyond

2018-08-31 20:35:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

right @Satan its why i'm not active on discord much these days

2018-08-31 20:39:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

well for me it never did become clear that the shape of the earth mattered, because the background/surrounding stuff all pointed towards this just being a "dream" state that our souls are bound to by default. so there is no need for anything beyond the earth in this "tutorial" land so to speak, but the fact is once you expand your soul's potential or what not, when you awake the next day you might embody a avatar within a world of greater potential such as space etc

2018-08-31 20:43:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

well for most people it leads them into the thoughts regarding "god" or some overarching intelligence, the main differencing being sphere earth=science-godless ignorance and do as tho will. While flat earth means thereโ€™s a creator, and a judgment, spirituality etc

2018-08-31 20:46:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Honestly the reality Iโ€™ve come to find most true lies in these few views.

The god of this world is one of blood, war, and worship; referred to as satan/mother earth

The God is one of lifeless/timeless/egoless justice, one who does not force his will upon any and all for there good or not, but will come to those through the love of others/luck... potentially.

And lastly being that within our reality is the potential to take โ€œdreamโ€ states to depths of internal reflection/growth beyond that of anything most people can comprehend. This journey brings greater depths to passions/emotions and thus to life itself.

Could ramble on for hours about this kinda stuff

2018-08-31 20:49:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

To be really honest tho, even โ€œthoseโ€ views are not 100% even in my own mind lol there are so many ways to look at it that i canโ€™t be 100% about anything

2018-08-31 20:50:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Its why i stopped looking for egotistical justifications for actions beyond my own comprehension within systems of expression with whom iโ€™m ignorant of

2018-08-31 20:52:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

God is not god, two things very different that the christain bible draws no meaning from

2018-08-31 20:54:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Well in the context Iโ€™m meaning it from, god is referred to as the worldly god, the one of this world. While God is the one beyond and of the background energies that make up reality, the God of light/love who is the operating system god and us work within

2018-08-31 20:54:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

god is an expression of ego, God is the expression of egolessness

2018-08-31 20:56:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

maybe idk, there's so many ways to look at these things that in the end all that really matters is what/who/how you act

2018-08-31 20:57:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

those are not the words of "God" but egoistic words of fearful men

2018-08-31 20:58:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

one thing many of my studies lead to was just how much of the bible is fear mongering bullshit from worldly/satanic men pushing dogma for their own power over damnation

2018-08-31 21:00:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

The act of channeling is one done through the lense of ego, and thus the interpirations/inspirations are easily tainted by fear/lusts. Itโ€™s within the yin yang like nature of truths and lies within the bible that you can pick apart what is of โ€œGodโ€ and god

2018-08-31 21:06:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Personally I believe the creative nature of humanity among the masses within their ability to โ€œimagineโ€/visualize and thus synthesize externalized sensory inputs has lead many to dogmatic indoctrinations of their own creation... furthermore its come to my knowledge that within these potentials of visualization etc that โ€œothersโ€ can take shape/form and manipulate/interact within said realms beyond the flesh, and its within these altered states of mind/manifestation that many are brought into terms with โ€œrealityโ€ through fear/control of forces that may very well be of their own creation, or worse yet of those around them. To be honest the whole Illuminati thing just references just how deep these extra sensory perceptions are within the public domain/society.

2018-08-31 21:08:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

^^^ something like that is my beliefe too

2018-08-31 21:08:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Demiurge=god

2018-08-31 21:08:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

but God=opperating system all runs within

2018-08-31 21:10:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

well God could be the background controler of stuff like that, but most likely "god" is the one who makes shit hit the fan, and God allows it but in his own way/time idk lol its a lot of circular logic to be honest

2018-08-31 21:12:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

one "real" world tip is that we each have the ability to internaly create words of ower own desire, thus we can break the chains the demiurge has over our souls

2018-08-31 21:17:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Some of the stuff I read a long while back spoke about how 2012 was suppose to be the marker of a global shifting of energy; where this โ€œoldโ€ energy that empowered a lot of fear/power lust etc was starting to weaken, and thus today we have fewer people who feel empowered within rape/war etc. Now weather thatโ€™s a product of humanity on a whole or of cosmic gods beyond i canโ€™t say, just that the very thought of this concept breeds more โ€œlightโ€ within reality so whoโ€™s to say.

2018-08-31 21:23:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Gotta say Light, you should give the emerald tablets of thoth a read

2018-08-31 21:25:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

โ€œPeopleโ€ like mindless leadership, the burden of thought is to much for many so the price to pay for thoughtlessness is often a form of slavery they conform too; itโ€™s not that something/somebody is brainwashing them, its they they seek to be comfortably numb within there sins; if they had to be perfect theyโ€™d want everything to be perfect for them, thus many donโ€™t seek beyond what they do.

2018-08-31 21:30:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

nah we just need less shareholder โ€œranโ€ corporations, we need companies where the employeeโ€™s are the shareholders and the communities/people they provide for are the driving force behind change.... Not bigger cuts for investors etc

2018-08-31 21:32:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Well hereโ€™s the thing, if each community/city etc backed specific farms etc rather than walmart and other middle men, then the โ€œpowerโ€ over sales these money hungry beasts have will dwindle

2018-08-31 21:34:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Well light the problem comes from the sources of said parts, if โ€œweโ€ collectively shift like this the systems that provide these machines/components will shut down and youโ€™ll need some local shop etc to build your 40 thousand dollar part

2018-08-31 21:39:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

One thing i look forward to regarding this kinda โ€œshiftโ€ is more personalized products and relationships with creators, like imagine working with your mechanics to slowly build your dream car etc and it not costing you 20 grand

2018-08-31 21:41:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

mmm well thatโ€™s just because he isn't knowledgeable in the "futureโ€ potential within hydroponics etc

2018-08-31 21:52:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

so what are your guys views of dna, I've heard a lot of crazy shit, mostly all pointing towards โ€œusโ€ being a product of higher intelligences (emerald tablets of thoth)

2018-09-02 07:16:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Here, outside chilling with drink, ready to embrace the souls till dawn and beyond

2018-09-02 07:18:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Honestly hope to get into some heartfelt and/or passionate conversations...after u get down a few drinks ;)

2018-09-02 07:24:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Had a blond Irish beer; guiness for lack of better spelling; and a fax 10% ; working on a ice cold bottle of luxardo atm :3

2018-09-02 07:35:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well I found a side job while I build up the body to go back to my old job after the winter, so I'll be dabbling in materialistic pleasures for a time to come :3

2018-09-02 07:47:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So I'll be in vc lounge for a bit if yous care to chat

2018-09-02 08:03:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Alright I'm seated and ready, not buzzed but green; let's get talking whenever your green

2018-09-02 23:32:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What's cooking folks

2018-09-03 23:08:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

so how's ma party people doing tonight?

2018-09-04 11:45:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Don't forget about crippling indoctrination of the masses; inducing self sustainable insanity within a crippled state of non-divinity; all to be wage slaves for a military industrial system... "god is great" as they say...

2018-09-04 19:07:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

anybootay up to chat about crazy shit?

2018-09-04 19:12:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

anything from metaphisical "telepathic" divine "ki" energy work/meditation altered states of mind etc, to the psy op like nature of indoctrination within religion,news,history, etc

2018-09-04 19:15:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

so would you care to vc regarding it?

2018-09-04 19:17:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

*cough* lame

2018-09-04 19:19:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

mind me asking how old you are?

2018-09-04 19:20:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

so what is it that drove you to this?

2018-09-04 19:23:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

not voice chatting

2018-09-04 19:24:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

mmmmkay just saying its probably more a product of experince/you.... just saying a lot of people do it, it just takes time to get used to

2018-09-04 19:28:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

๐Ÿ˜„ times all we have, I'll look forward to the day you join us. So what are your beliefes in the potential of dream like states of altered reality?

2018-09-04 19:32:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you know how you can "see" behind closed eye's, and dreams are in essence "you" within a "reality" of unrealistic constraints? well have you studied the potential intensities/complexities of "that" state of minds ability to expand your understanding and ability to harness/embody greater passions etc

2018-09-04 19:34:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I just mean have you looked into the art of expanding this state of mind

2018-09-04 19:38:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

okay, well from what I've read over the years I've found that one source of true freedom lies within this state of mind. Being that once you can embody passion/emotional focus of willpower etc these "dreams" will grow in length/intensity/complexity etc and for some they last days upon weeks etc every night; some learn to "keep" the dream going in the background, where they blink and focus for a bit and are there again etc, a lot of meditation in later stages comes down to "dreaming" reality and in turn reality becomes the dream, and thus "your" reality becomes an expression of dream like nature, but by that point your dreams are something unlike i could ever describe

2018-09-04 19:43:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It gets to a point where going to sleep โ€œhereโ€ is akin to unplugging from the body and entering an infinite network of expression in which your intention throws you through a spectrum of consciousness until โ€œrealityโ€ manifests around you based upon the mindset/emotions etc going into this state

2018-09-04 19:46:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

well you see creativity, and โ€œmuchโ€ of what we are/do is a product of the subconsciousness of which we are an expression of. By โ€œmasteringโ€ these altered states of mind to one degree or another you in turn learn how to harness โ€œfocusโ€ and willpower within passions/emotions etc to intensities beyond that of what would be otherwise egotistical and empty/superficial. So if you want to be able to sing/write music, etc, play instruments or follow your dreams, well it helps to be able to live those dreams and โ€œliveโ€ through far greater experiences to draw passions from

2018-09-04 19:48:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

lol hell no, I've studied this kinda thing from many points of view because i fundamentally lacked the very essence of this to such a degree my previous depression was a state of perpetual self induced numbing denial. I only point towards the road/path that we and many have followed, in time i hope to grow upon this too

2018-09-04 19:55:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

For the majority of my life Iโ€™ve only ever had short 10-30 second dreams of lucidity usually waking up as if pulled from said dream state; furthermore the nature of said dreams was veryโ€ฆ artificial as if being studied/tested; so I never felt rooted within the moment and easily drew myself out of them.

As of a month ish ago I started trying to go to sleep with intent, trying to โ€œenterโ€ the void of darkness behind closed eyes and let my mind create visualizations of its own flourishion. This has more or less been peekaboo with my innate, in short it โ€œshowingโ€ me some vague/fuzzy image until I โ€œseeโ€ it and try focusing then lose it, usually takes anywhere from 5-20min to get one, and about 3 seconds to loose itโ€ฆ to say iโ€™m bad is a understatement.

On a brighter note, Iโ€™ve had some luck within harmonization, or rather dissonance; being Iโ€™ve had a few dreams enwich i could embody a feeling/tone within the mind to a degree that reality echoโ€™s the intention; such as flight or levitationโ€ฆ mostly ends in me getting pulled out of the dream tho.

2018-09-04 19:57:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Soldz (CF) what do you hope to get from your studies "here" and on these topics?

2018-09-04 20:06:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

well here's the thing, the only "truth" you have is what your 5 senses show/tell you; but many views tell you these are the only tools in which your enthralled before; so in short the only truths you can every really have are the ones you create to be true, as every product of experience can be manipulated through perceptions to create the responses they demandโ€ฆ and thatโ€™s not even getting into the nature of what we call ourself; being a product of knowing. Mk ultra like programs and of the likes have shown just how โ€œeasilyโ€ the mind can be overwritten/modified; how entire personalities can be inserted/removed and more.

So what it really comes down to is what needs to be true to do what you do, and what needs to be true to do what you want to do?

2018-09-04 20:14:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

~~Glad to see we got another mind brimming with critical thoughts...~~

2018-09-04 22:32:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

cool cool

2018-09-04 22:46:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

chilling on a little game

2018-09-05 01:09:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Lets debate the nature of understanding the mainstream portrays; like how they prescribe elements of divinity/biology to fantasy; how the supernatural is made out to be a product of external powers; etc

2018-09-05 01:11:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

So one in particular is the pineal gland

2018-09-05 01:12:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Calcification is a word used to describe many of them during biopsies

2018-09-05 01:13:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Well from my understanding Chakras are a mental construct; a tool of the mind, while very powerful, not necessary

2018-09-05 01:14:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Well the act of decalcification in and of itself has nothing to do with opening your third eye

2018-09-05 01:17:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

lol can't vouch for cocaine, but weed has personally lead to my strongest breakthroughts in the early stages

2018-09-05 01:18:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

the only drug you "need" is DMT, maybe LSD, and kinda shrooms

2018-09-05 01:18:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

the point is to enter altered states of reality/mind where you can "grow" beyond what you know yourself to be

2018-09-05 01:21:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

well to agree with Citizen's view, you honestly don't "need" any external substances, because only with the right depths of focus can you utilize substances in the first place... spent years smoking just to get high, but after over a year of being clean and meditation only then was it a different experince (micro doseing as well)

2018-09-05 01:23:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Hey we should debate the nature of schizophrenia

2018-09-05 01:24:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Because beyond the definition of a form of insanity, itโ€™s a broad term put on top of a broad subject

2018-09-05 01:26:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

For example the art of self induce schizophrenia is referred to as tulipa ; a method of creating a thematic internal voice disassociated/distinct from your own, of its own accord/knowing yet only within your mind.

2018-09-05 01:27:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Iโ€™ve personally been able to cast my own internal voice into the depths of the โ€œvoidโ€ to a degree enough that its โ€œechoโ€™dโ€ back in other tones/voices without any of my own thought, as if hearing them from afar.

2018-09-05 01:29:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

So what iโ€™m saying is my own experiences and that of those wrote about through many different styles of Occult practices all outline the same system of focuses that produce meaningful โ€œschizophreniaโ€ ; so perhaps โ€œschizophreniaโ€ itself is just the state of uncontrolled input like a radio that canโ€™t be turned off or tuned.

2018-09-05 01:33:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

So my point is, entire sects of society, โ€œgroupsโ€ of individuals that slowly attune to this aspect of their humanity, through nothing but their own natural progression of biology enter the realization that they can hear others thoughts. Thereโ€™s entire theories based around this concept; that a good deal of humanity is/can connect to this human thought form frequency

2018-09-05 01:35:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

Granted this could be just a form of mass delusion; where people โ€œportrayโ€ their inner voice as those around and as such produce their own โ€œskinโ€ of thoughts of those aroundโ€ฆ this could in turn be a system of reverse schicology the brain uses on itself, on the ego to drive it to actions that it thinks its bringing out of its own accord.

2018-09-05 01:36:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

psychology*

2018-09-05 01:39:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

I'm not saying these things as fact, or even as potential fact, mearly food for thought to build off of and talk about

2018-09-05 01:41:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

really pondering the potential "inner" workings of a society many of us arn't apart of that leads to many logical justifications of "for the greater good" is toxic?

2018-09-05 01:43:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

@Soldz (CF) the systems of logic that the people trapped within these delusions use "for the greater good" as there justifications for actions based upon these "voices" they hear within there heads that they atribute to being able to hear anothers thoughts

2018-09-05 01:46:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #conspiracy-discussion]  

not really, they are the product of dozens of views. So to say they are my own thoughts is like saying all the lego's and subject mater around it was not of others efforts

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