Message from @^Kevin^
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what I'm telling you is truth is the truth
hell most people believe this "reality" is the reality of matter; that this is ground 0 when we are just an expression of spirituality bound within the constraints of a greater system of "beliefes" etc
facts are useless because reality is defined by the individual
some facts are malleable that can be distorted to change public opinion but they aren't truth
Kevin, that doesn't mean anything because you haven't told me what truth is. If I said Yog-Sothoth is Yog-Sothoth, you say: "What is Yog-Sothoth?"
real facts are truth, not manufactured facts
truth is the opposite of a lie
I'm asking for a positive claim; saying it isn't X or Y doesn't help.
if a kid steals something and tell you he stole it, he's telling you the truth
you can believe he's telling you a lie, but it doesn't change the fact that its the truth
Okay, so you believe "truth" is a proposition that is in accordance with a material reality?
The sentence: "I am typing right now," is true becaue it's happening.
I believe truth is the truth regardless of what reality it happens to be in
So you think truth transcends reality, in a certain way?
some truth might be limited to the reality it finds itself, there can be alternate truths depending on the rules of that reality
truth is bound within experince; one's truth can be a lie to another
truth is not subjective
Well, Kevin, you said truth wasn't relative; you're now claiming it's relative to the limits of a reality in which it could exist in.
what I believe doesn't matter in terms of truth
like if i tell you i'm working hard; from anothers point of view it may look as tho i'm "working" up to hard not working through it and "thus" hard
whether I can determine that doesn't mean I will always find truth
I often ask people if they are working hard or hardly working
so if I told you planes claim to fly higher then thay do and use optical lensing to portray the lands bellow differently to make you think in essence your flying further then you are; would you say its "true" that they are distorting the scale of our landmasses?
Are you asking me or Kevin?
"both"
I don't think they can distort the scale of the landmasses that much, we have other methods like driving a car to determine how far stuff is
I'm in michigan, I drive to california takes roughly 1 day of driving, how can you distort the distance by airplanes
the fact is that they are using optical illusions and perspective wrongly to hide flat earth
when it comes to flat earth one of the biggest points is flight; how all flights going from bottom of south america to aussy for example "pass" near noth pole area's for "refueling" etc in essence there paths make sense on a flat earth map
using fish eye lenses
well, the flights in the south are a little wonky
antartica is the outer edge of flat earth
so boating around that continent is literally 100,000 miles in circumferance
I'm presuming this is why you think climate change is propaganda?
I.E. melting poles would destroy your model of Earth
climate change is reality
its not propoganda
you should look into the current ice rates at greenland for instance... they are growing back a lot
we have seasons, its fact
What's this Cilmate Propaganda signify, then?