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2018-09-11 21:16:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2018-09-11 21:17:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-09-11 21:18:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

can i have fe please

2018-09-11 21:18:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

what's truther?

2018-09-11 21:21:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

done my roles i think

2018-09-11 21:22:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-09-11 21:25:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS that leaked video with hillary clinton and the other woman doing all the satanic shit isn't it?

2018-09-15 16:49:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

which book?

2018-09-15 17:06:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Citizen Z could you change my fe role to undecided please?

2018-09-15 17:06:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

oh ty

2018-09-15 17:07:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i finished my diy cavendish and it worked so im not really sure about things atm

2018-09-20 17:43:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-09-23 13:14:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


I wouldn't say it's more accurate, i used to be FE but i'm not really any more because it started to really bother me how the fe model cant really make predictions about anything

2018-09-23 13:22:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-09-24 15:28:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

>So the friction in the air should provide plenty of free electricity
Wind power?

2018-09-24 15:38:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

isn't it half mass * velocity squared

2018-09-24 15:39:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

didnt you just say mass * velocity squared

2018-09-24 15:39:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  



2018-09-24 20:47:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i don't think you did

2018-09-24 20:47:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It turns out the "eratosthenes works on a flat earth with a local sun" doesn't fly at all when you actually test it with more than 2 sticks

2018-09-24 20:49:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-09-24 20:49:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

just watch it

2018-09-24 20:50:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-09-24 20:50:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

the one true jam

2018-09-24 20:51:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

no other kind of jam is acceptable on a sponge cake tho lets be honest

2018-09-24 20:52:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

c: none of the above

2018-09-24 20:53:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They literally give the benefit of the doubt and assume a flat earth to demonstrate that it doesnt work

2018-09-24 20:56:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Goldsteel i did it too, i was off by like 2%

2018-09-24 20:57:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

wait did you do it eratosthenes style?

2018-09-24 20:57:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I think i did it a different way

2018-09-24 20:58:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

FEcore is a drug front confirmed

2018-09-24 21:37:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

why no?

2018-09-24 21:39:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-09-24 21:41:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

who cares whether or not he did it, you can do it now with much greater accuracy and it works

can't people literally book trips to antarctica though?

how do you know this?

they have, i think you just reject it


seems very impartial

i don't think they care about what info comes out tbh

EMDrive? or something else


2018-10-02 17:56:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

whole article is what one psychologist says

2018-10-02 21:57:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

are they the norm?

2018-10-04 21:42:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

gives you a list

if he invented gravity why was i successfully able to measure it in my own home

youtube channel has my name etc on it so i'd rather not sorry

Got the exact same result as all the other youtube videos i've seen tho

you don't have to take my word for it, i didn't say you should

have you tried that experiment?

i measured a tiny force between masses

got the exact same force with different materials, i did it with lead, a bag of concrete and bowling balls

i didn't use a scale so no

a torsion balance

it's literally a plank suspended by fishing line

there's basically no force to resist it so you can use it to measure tiny forces

i also tried it with a bunch of different types of wire and got the same result with all of them

what i measured was an attractive force proportional to the mass, isn't that what gravity is?

maybe that's the case but what i measured here wasn't downward

it appears to be 2 masses attracting each other


but doesn't seem to depend on the material or anything, only the mass

that's why i did it with several different masses


2018-10-05 23:05:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

needs a control test surely, on an identical night but without the moon up

2018-10-05 23:05:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

how do you know it's the moon doing the cooling

2018-10-05 23:07:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i don't know what it is, but i wouldn't assert that it's the moon before i've tested it without the moon to see

2018-10-06 14:25:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-10-06 14:27:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

there's basically no liquid water in antarctica is there?

2018-10-06 16:15:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i've measured it myself

2018-10-06 16:15:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i did a cavendish experiment in a spare room

2018-10-06 16:16:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

then what did i measure?

2018-10-06 16:16:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Because i saw a force between two masses

2018-10-06 16:18:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i didn't believe they would though, thats why i tested it

2018-10-06 16:20:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

says it hasn't been replicated but it has, i've done it

2018-10-06 16:20:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

are you telling me i didn't?

2018-10-06 16:20:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's done in a sealed room and you leave it for literally hours to let it settle

2018-10-06 16:21:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And i tested it before with no masses and got a different result

2018-10-06 16:21:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-10-06 16:21:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

telekinesis is a thing now?

2018-10-06 16:21:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

That's actually more impressive ngl

2018-10-06 20:25:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

>hasn't been repeated
why do you post powerpoint presentations that lie to you

2018-10-06 20:26:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And yet i've done the experiment using a bunch of different materials and i got the same result, why is that?

2018-10-06 20:26:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-10-06 20:26:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you should get a job with the fbi or something

2018-10-06 20:27:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

that sounds really useful

2018-10-06 20:27:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

yes actually i used balls made of every globe earther's favourite material, magnetium

2018-10-06 20:29:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i thought we were talking about the cavendish experiment, i don't see how mirages are relevant

2018-10-06 20:30:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

so far the only evidence against it that's been posted is one person who deliberately did it in such a way that they could dismiss it all

2018-10-06 20:30:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

so i consider it undebunked

2018-10-06 20:30:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2018-10-06 20:30:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

you can literally do a cavendish experiment for $10

2018-10-06 20:32:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

how much energy does it take to glue some weights to a plank and leave it for a while?

2018-10-06 20:34:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

>flat earthers running tests that might prove them wrong

2018-10-06 20:34:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

hold on now

2018-10-06 20:35:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@^Kevin^ how many dimensions do you exist in

2018-10-06 20:35:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

no there's a correct answer

2018-10-06 20:37:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

okay yeah he's mike πŸ˜‚

2018-11-15 18:44:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #members-log]  

2018-11-17 14:35:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i think if you want to figure it out, the easiest way would be to construct a 3d model of the 3 bodies

2018-11-17 14:35:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

See what actually happens

2018-11-17 14:35:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

why do i have globe role?

2018-11-17 14:39:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

i am undecided

2018-11-17 14:40:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

not really

2018-11-17 14:40:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I can see how we've all been lied to but i'm not sure about the flat earth version either

2018-11-17 14:42:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

to hide the truth about the Lord and his creation

2018-11-17 14:45:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I don't have time to go into it right now sorry

2018-11-17 14:52:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

<@&484512215764828162> can you update my roles? idk why i have mainstream and globe

2018-11-17 16:06:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@Citizen Z why do i have globe role?

2018-11-17 16:10:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

-No curvature observed
-Clear editing in space footage
-Hot spots from the sun

2018-11-19 14:04:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I guess we'll find out in march 2019

2018-11-19 14:11:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@The Gwench is 4G dangerous? they set up a mast not far from my house recently

2018-11-19 14:14:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I've been having headaches and stuff recently, idk if it's caused by that though

Boris Bikes πŸ‘Œ

2018-11-23 17:38:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Pretty much the entire backbone of the internet is done through fiber cables

2018-11-23 17:46:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

could you rephrase that? i don't understand what you meant πŸ˜‚

@Citizen Z what's the highlighted part mean? i don't understand

2018-12-22 17:03:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Wasn't there that chatbot that started spouting racist stuff when it came into contact with the internet

2018-12-22 17:36:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Don't forget that new technology usually also means new ways to help people

2018-12-22 17:45:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Not everyone has it set up though

2018-12-22 17:45:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you're not a pensioner chances are you don't use it

2018-12-22 23:31:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

concave earth is a thing to be fair

2018-12-23 23:21:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

if its literally in the middle of setting its fine

2018-12-28 12:15:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Looks like a transformer blew itself up

2018-12-28 12:15:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You can hear the buzz

Pretty sure someone on tumblr probably said that there's 62 at some point

2019-01-01 23:00:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

I don't get the problem can you explain?

2019-01-02 00:20:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

How do you know? just curious how you worked that out

2019-01-02 00:28:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

nah i meant how do you know that that's impossible on a globe

2019-01-02 00:30:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

i think it's due to more atmosphere for light to pass through when its low in the sky

2019-01-02 00:30:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

rather than the distance

2019-01-02 00:31:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

yeah doesn't everyone agree on that?

wifi routers don't use the same frequency that microwave ovens do

Microwave ovens are 2.45GHz, wifi networks don't use that frequency



theyre all radio waves

yeah but not the frequency that's actually harmful

I don't have any vendetta against you lmao

2019-01-03 17:01:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

whats up?

2019-01-03 17:01:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  
2019-01-04 16:36:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-01-04 16:36:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Why was i banned in the first place?

2019-01-04 16:36:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-01-04 16:36:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

hooray i guess

2019-01-04 16:40:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

troll servers?

I just looked on my router, says it puts out 50mW

100-500W according to a quick google

Out of curiosity where do you work?

@The Gwench radiology dept?

i've never seen a long range stabbing, just saying πŸ˜‚


surely the people in charge of implementing 5g would be exposed to it as well

i had a quick read of the pdf z posted, i'm no scientist but it looks like it's saying that the irradiated rats had a higher survival rate? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451782774349627394/531919874960785448/unknown.png

2019-01-12 18:41:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Why would someone lie on the internet?

2019-01-12 18:55:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

guys do you want to hear a great joke

2019-01-12 18:56:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

*Imperial units*

2019-01-12 18:59:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Do you want to hear an even better joke

2019-01-12 19:17:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

*american healthcare*

2019-01-13 22:46:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Maybe we should take all the good guys with guns and put them on standby

2019-01-13 22:46:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And have some kind of phone number that you can call to get them to come help you

2019-01-14 18:22:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Wait z did you say europe was communist? or did i interpret that wrong

I live here, that's news to me πŸ˜‚

2019-04-06 20:48:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Can't you use p = f*v and disregard the mass term

2019-04-06 20:51:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Isn't that just drag, how does that relate to gravity

2019-04-08 16:08:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-05-15 13:12:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Sounds like you should just ask them to explain it better

2019-05-15 13:12:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I know what they are

2019-05-15 13:13:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-05-15 13:13:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's possible to do it that way, but that's far from the only way

2019-05-15 13:14:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

`2. Determine mass with force and acceleration`

2019-05-15 13:14:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's the best tasting planet there is

2019-05-15 13:14:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

<Insert uranus joke here>

2019-05-15 13:15:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Most of them are just trolls though

2019-05-15 13:16:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Most of it is fairly simple to get your head around

2019-05-15 13:17:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Primarily it's just weight and buoyancy iirc

2019-05-15 13:17:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

All the other ones don't have much of an effect in most cases

2019-05-15 13:19:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's the main one in most cases yes

2019-05-15 13:21:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@jeremy Have you ever asked for evidence of that?

2019-05-15 13:22:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Why do you not consider the cavendish experiment to be evidence?

2019-05-15 13:22:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-05-15 13:25:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Check DMs

2019-05-15 13:29:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I've seen people post lots of different ones

2019-05-15 13:31:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The balls on the spandex sheet is a different thing entirely

2019-05-15 13:31:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Perhaps you should just watch the experiments, look at the results and see if they are consistent with the masses attracting

2019-05-15 13:32:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You could try repeating it

2019-05-15 13:32:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Or you could look and see if there are anomalies in the results

2019-05-15 13:33:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

afaik properly done lab experiments generally aren't presented on youtube

2019-05-15 13:34:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So the logical thing would be to repeat the experiment yourself and see what result you get right?

2019-05-15 13:35:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Then I guess all you can do is look at other people's results

2019-05-15 13:37:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

I'm just presenting some evidence that i've seen

2019-05-15 13:37:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It appears that when you do a test with sufficient precision, they do attract each other

2019-05-15 13:40:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There are plenty of people who are willing to explain it to you

2019-05-15 13:40:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It does make sense if you listen

2019-05-15 13:42:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you knew about the things that determine weight, couldn't you account for them?

2019-05-15 13:43:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The 3 body problem is very maths-heavy

2019-05-15 13:44:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's about what a system of 3 orbiting bodies will look like at any point in the future, based on their starting position

2019-05-15 13:44:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There's no analytical solution for it right now

2019-05-15 13:44:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Weight is just the force things experience towards the ground

2019-05-15 13:44:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Yes, the trick is to make some assumptions that simplify it

2019-05-15 13:45:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It turns out that if one of the bodies is really small, like a satellite compared to a moon, you can consider the gravity of the satellite to be zero

2019-05-15 13:45:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

And it becomes practically identical to a 2-body problem

2019-05-15 13:46:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Remember that the oceans have much bigger masses than satellites, so they experience a much bigger force

2019-05-15 13:46:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

For all i know the sun and moon do distort the orbit by a few meters, I don't know

2019-05-15 13:49:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Seems like the best thing you can do is test it yourself

2019-05-15 13:49:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If there's something you don't like about what other people have done, you can fix it

2019-05-15 13:49:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well it's mass attracting mass remember

2019-05-15 13:50:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The more mass you have, the stronger the attraction

2019-05-15 13:50:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

But with less mass comes less force

2019-05-15 13:50:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Where have you tried to observe it and failed @Rudi?

2019-05-15 13:51:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

You need good precision to be able to do it properly

2019-05-15 13:52:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@jeremy It comes from measuring the angle between the sun and moon at certain times of the month and doing trig with that

2019-05-15 13:52:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Where have you specifically tried to observe it?

2019-05-15 13:52:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Do we expect to?

2019-05-15 13:52:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The force is weak and would be overpowered by friction after all

2019-05-15 13:53:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-05-15 13:53:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's important to look at what we should expect to see before declaring that it's not there

2019-05-15 13:53:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Unless you get the precision you need to see it

2019-05-15 13:54:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Not seeing something in a place where you don't have the precision to measure it doesn't really prove anything

2019-05-15 13:54:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh are you talking about just measuring its angular size?

2019-05-15 13:55:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh that's a 3rd different thing ok

2019-05-15 13:55:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Could you explain what you're talking about a little bit more?

2019-05-15 13:56:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What result did he get?

2019-05-15 13:56:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

What process?

2019-05-15 13:57:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Using parallax?

2019-05-15 13:58:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

`but the process he used you would have gotten the same distance to the moon`
i guess the only way you can know that is if you take a second person and try and apply it to the moon

2019-05-15 14:00:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

about 3K iirc

2019-05-15 14:00:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The atmosphere doesn't get that cold as you go up though

2019-05-15 14:00:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Well this is just full of spam now

2019-05-15 14:01:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

@jeremy Do you know any other servers?

2019-05-15 14:01:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-05-15 14:01:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Kinda hard to talk with a pile of gifs being spammed

2019-05-15 14:04:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Helium still has weight, a filled helium tank weighs more than an empty one

2019-05-15 14:04:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Weight is the downward force, but it becomes slightly harder to measure if there's a big upward force acting on it as well

2019-05-15 14:05:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well the balloon filled with helium has both the mass of the balloon and helium

2019-05-15 14:05:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But filling it with helium means that the upward force of buoyancy acts on it too, so it becomes hard to measure the weight

2019-05-15 14:05:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It still has weight acting downwards, there's just a bigger force pushing it up

2019-05-15 14:06:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well a scale just measures the force pushing down on it, if there's another force present then you won't get a good measurement

2019-05-15 14:08:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Because we don't feel speed, just acceleration

2019-05-15 14:08:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

But the acceleration is actually quite small

2019-05-15 14:09:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

If you try and figure it out it's actually quite reasonable

2019-05-15 14:09:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

It's just a quick division but ok

2019-05-15 14:10:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  


2019-05-15 14:10:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

No, only the maths that has been shown to represent reality gets used

2019-05-15 14:11:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The whole idea of maths is that it's just a way of describing reality

2019-05-15 14:21:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Mass is not weight

2019-05-15 14:21:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

They're measurements of different things

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