Message from @^Kevin^
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the primary reason we aren't doing that, and I'm certain we already have the tech, is because it would be a military nightmare
you could move stuff around too freely
So ^Kevin^
I was wondering if you wanted to answer that epistemology question of mine: what do you believe truth to be?
truth is not relative, truth is facts that aren't debatable
you can debate with someone about facts and truth, but even if you both conclude wrongly that the truth isn't the truth, it doesn't change the truth
you can both conclude that the sky is clearly pink or orange, even though its blue
but when you live within a reality enwhich matter is a product of quatnum manifestation "fact" is linear in a non-linear reality as the mandella effect has proven
in short "you" could see a pink sky and the world wold see you as bloody crazy; but in your reality it would be a pink sky
mandella effect has not been proven
just because it's not been proven to yourself doesn't mean it's not been proven....
So you believe in correspondence theory? That which is true is that which is actual in the material universe.
if I haven't bought into the theory, its just a theory, not a fact
What's a fact?
a fact is something I have bought into
its completely subject to my beliefs
(this is a joke)
Some epistemologists do buy into relativism
its not subject to someone's beliefs
Interesting
here's the thing write if i make you lemonade I know for a fact i made it; but I can't say for a fact the lemons came from X tree unless i picked them; and a lot of science is pointing at theoretical tree's saying see the lemons came from this one; while leaving all the other "tree's" of thought up in the air out of ignorance
I think what you are trying to say here is that lemons is where money comes from
that is an interesting theory I'll have to give some thought to
So would you both agree with the statement that fact is a thing that cannot be cast into doubt?
just because the majority believe in something doesn't make it a fact
Mhm.
in fact, the majority have been duped into believing false and provably wrong beliefs
ya "true" pure facts are far and few between; most of them are objective and half lies
Okay, so Mr. J seems to agree with the statement.
Kevin, do you?
ulcers is one example, where people thought it was caused by worry and we eventually learned it is curable in most cases
no, truth is something that is true, no matter if everyone agrees to the contrary
That's not what I asked
its true regardless of what people think and regardless of what facts they present that people believe
like the globe for instance
most people have been duped into believing this fairy tale
Mate, I'm asking you to define something. That kind of does not work if you use the terms I'm asking for a defintion of.
what I'm telling you is truth is the truth