Messages in Charlottesville 2.0, #shuttle_service_information
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I have a system that will alleviate shuttle concerns. It's not complicated, but will take some organizing. I'm willing to do this. The first thing is to get people in contact and lodging with each other.
I have spoken with MadDimension and have run the fundamentals by him.
It will take some coordination and pre-planning but that will allow us to run smoothly and everyone get in and quickly without excessive exposure.
Are either or you carpool coordinators or could you point those individuals toward in the future?
@AltCelt(IL) That would be a very useful thing if you indeed can manage it. Please keep me informed.
@everyone I'm going to be organizing the Shuttles System to maximize efficiency and reduce the amount of people exposed to absolute minimum. It's not a hard task to understand but it will take cooperation and organization.
First – I need to know who is renting 12, 15 and even 8 seater vans and how many.
Please reply back here.
maybe it's 12
I'll be happy to assist
Yeah I'm renting a 15 passenger van but all things considered it's gonna seat 10 to 12 after luggage and even then it's gonna be a tight fit
Talking about for shuttle to site up there @Pharaoh Bearclaw III - FL
Luggage and whatnot should be in rooms at that point
Ahhhh okay then yeah we can cram more at that point
More like a shuttle transporting groups of ppl from a parking area to event so cars won't be there @Pharaoh Bearclaw III - FL
@everyone Since the there appears to be confusion, I need:
One (1) person from any group bringing an 8-15 passenger van to be designated the POC and let me know how many vans and how many seats in their van. (Make sure when renting you get the walk away insurance, Antifa does something you call the company and tell them it's their problem and you need another van.)
I will be arranging for satellite meet up and parking sites. Further information on that will be coming shortly. This will take organization coordination. This will keep the exposure of small groups of people to a minimum.
If you don't want to play and just show up with your car at the rally because that sounds fine to you, YOYO man.
Further details will be forthcoming. Keep all other chatter elsewhere.
My only concern with using my Florida van is if there is damage and I won't be able to get the Florida guys back I'm time for work on Monday because of insurance crap. Let's say the front windshield is smashed and there aren't any replacement vans available from the rental service.
Unless your company isn't in Virginia, they are on the hook for getting a replacement to you.
They might have to bring it to you from D.C. or Richmond, etc or work an arrangement from another company, but that's what the insurance covers.
The other option is we all act like selfish libertarians and hope it's someone else's personal vehicle that gets hit or someone else's rental.
Regardless, the entire purpose is to keep all the total amount of vehicles at risk to a minimum, but primarily reduce the risk to ALL of our people.
Agreed. Just want to make sure there is a backup plan for a worse case scenario here.
I'll talk to enterprise to double check that they will provide transportation in case of an (((accident))).
In the event something happens cops will be involved and adjustments will have to be made to remove people from the scene. This will be a game time decision.
This will be us
I know NC law is on the books that driving over protestors blocking roadways isn't an offense. This is crossover for this channel and VA law.
Sure would be nice.
@MadDimension I am renting a 15-passenger van and bringing a group from the S.C./central-NC area. We will be arriving on Aug. 11 and leaving Aug 13. I'd like to volunteer our van for whatever it can be used for while we're up there. Most of us are staying at the NC Haus.
Friendly reminder to consider using Uber/Lyft services to be dropped off at safe locations close to Lee Park. Using one of these services would eliminate the danger of your car being targeted/damaged after you drove and parked it in the area (likely with some Trump/NRA/other sticker on it).
Thats bad advice and also doesn't belong in this channel
Probably better than your idea of renting a school bus from the local school district, imo.
If you have reasoning as to why you think using Uber/Lyft is a bad idea, however, I'm more than willing to listen.
Also, this absolutely belongs in this channel, as it directly relates the topic of shuttle service to the event. Individuals have expressed concerns over having their owned/rented vehicles damaged, and this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
Yes, drive to a cliff and use a glider to get to the park.
Tfw shit-tier Hindenburg transportation
Using an Uber or a Lyft, at best, you can travel in a group or 3-4 (limited to the number of passengers in the vehicle). Right off the bat, that's a dumb idea.
I've also had situations where Uber and Lyft were booked solid for an hour at a time with just a few seconds here and there where a car became available before it was booked by somebody else. That kind of variability introduces an element of uncertainty that you don't want to have in situations like these.
Also, we'll have hundreds of people. I doubt there are that many Ubers/Lyfts.
Also, if the driver feels that the situation they're getting into is unsafe (by driving close to a mob), they can reasonably deny taking you as close as you'd want to be.
It's just a shit idea all around, especially when there are better, more reliable options being worked on by our people.
I understand that your plan is to take an Uber, have it drop you off a few blocks away, and then walk the rest of the way, but I assure you that that is a very bad idea.
tl;dr: "Thats bad advice and also doesn't belong in this channel"
Even ignoring the issue of you arriving in a small group (or alone) and leaving yourself open to attack or harassment, you will probably not be able to get an Uber in the immediate vicinity after the rally, and there will likely be no extra space for you to jump on one of our shuttles if you need to get out quickly. Do you really want to be left alone in a crowd of antifa while the bulk of the rally heads back to get on a shuttle to leave?
(But maybe you'll get really lucky amd your Uber driver will be a local commie! That'll be fun.)
I'm trying to create a system where everyone will mass early in one close but secure location. Vehicles will be returned multiple satellite locations with drivers only.
Everyone will be shuttled to the event in very large groups so there will never be less than a few dozen together.
Afterward. Several groups of dozens at a time leave. When everyone is at the off sight rally point the shuttles will take drivers to get their vehicles. Convoys will return and from the satellite sights and large groups will leave simultaneously.
If people work together, follow the plan and don't try to be on their own program, this should limit everyone's exposure to vandalism or injury.
That's the wave tops. Without the satellite locations nailed down. I decided to post it early because I need people to conceptualize it, so that we don't have people going off script on game day or trying to tinker with things and screw up the broader system.
If you have suggestions within this framework. Please submit, but we do not need multiple people trying to devised there own system. The strength is massing the most of us as possible. @everyone
The only real variables at this point is how early are we starting and where are the satellite points. Which are being worked out. The time at the rally point waiting for the shuttles to return will likely be good because it will be the first time the entire group will be together and can iron out detail instead of trying to meet each other and figure it out under duress.
Great work, @Tyrone 👌🏻 let me know if there's any way I can help in establishing your proposed shuttle system. I'll definitely be a part of a Carolina convoy, myself.
I hope the satellite parking can be on private property.
There's pinned messages for a reason. Please read them.
There will be more details released tonight. However it might be late overnight.
Is the shuttle even running for the afterparty?
hasnt even been discussed
Didn't think so. Every man for himself to find a designated driver or should we try to coordinate something comprehensive?
I'm going to spend a few hours tonight working on some logistics. After its over and everyone has 88 ideas on how it would be better, let me know for next time.
I will make a plan for the after party, because apparently we didn't get the cool place with Slave Quarters secured in time
But let's be honest...
All you need at the end of the night is a 2 foot by 6 foot section of floor for a couple hours
I thought this page was for shuttle bus drivers to say that they have a shuttle. Obv, just about everyone will need to use the shuttles. The busses can make repetitive trips to Lee Park.
I'm generating the document. A work issue has me busy. It will be reviewed and final info will be passed after that
@everyone As of now, I have 8 vans for shuttle service and 1 for equipment. I need 9 dedicated drivers for each vehicle and to provide security for them during the event.
If anyone else has a van or large SUV and a driver to volunteer please reply here for planning purposes.
@Tyrone For those staying alone, any shuttle services too and from events. Mainly trying to keep personal vehicle as secure as possible.
@everyone If you are not staying in a large group start making friends through this server now.
Between now and Friday night everyone need to arrange to meet up and consolidate so that only FULL cars are meeting at Rally Point #1 (location to be released later).
This can either be at some of the larger houses or at the satellite parking location Rally Points (locations to be released on a later) or another place of your choosing. I don't particularly care. Just figure it out.
The reasons for this will make sense when the order is released. If you show up at RP#1 with just yourself in your vehicle you will have to park it there.
I need people who will volunteer to be drivers/security for the shuttle vehicles to please tag me a message here or send a DM. @everyone
What are the job requirements for security?
Drivers double as security. Basically just make sure the Vans don't get fucked with.
Valid Drivers license
Suggested over 25 (for rentals, soft requirement)
Have sense enough to avoid confrontations
Can communicate on radio
That's there is a chance the vehicles will be targeted. Primary goal is to avoid situations.
@everyone If you driving/renting a 8-15 passenger van or large SUV and are offering it for shuttle service, please tag me in a message for this thread.
This includes those with prior contact. I need to finalize plans and confirm the numbers of vehicles that will be there next Friday.
^ same for me pls, i need finalization
I'll help with security. Not driving.
I take it I will be helping with security and then my other goy driving our vehicle.
Will we be parking cars at the rally point and then use the shuttle to and from the event?
There is a lot of info in the channel and I'm not quite sure
@Rhodesiannaire - OH Here's the channel for volunteering for the shuttle service
Hey I'm interested in volunteering. Is it an all day affair?
at least from about 0800 to 1800
Does the rally end at 1800?
no, but we will probably be shuttling peopel until then
The be fair he's guessing worst case.
Well, it doesn't matter in the end I guess because there's an after party.
Consider me commited to being a driver
Send me any info I need
Glad to hear u can come out bud
You will see us anywhere and everywhere that our people give us the call lol
Right on brother
Is there going to be a shuttle bus to Lee Park?
There will be a number of them
I would suggest the Mods clean this page out and keep it for details only as we approach this weekend
I think he was talking about anyone not meeting to shuttle
For those not in this Discord most likely
we're not going to be telling ANYONE outaide the discord about the shuttle
If it's posted here, it'll be known by many outside the discord. Just sayin'
@everyone MadDimension's message was pertaining to general public at large who wanted to attend. Details, even inside this discord will be limited to need to know for all of your safety.
The only thing ready for the broad population in here currently is to make arrangement to carpool to the venue, starting now.
I understand not to discuss information outside of discord. I'll have a group of about 15 and I'd much rather Park at a safe spot and get a shuttle to Lee Park. I guess ill await further instructions.
Yea id say no exact info will go out until the day before
I'm looking for 2 spots on a shuttle. Will have my car and can meet the shuttle anywhere. ??
Stand by for full info from event and organizational leadership.
I'll be shuttling. Would I be OK to carry while driving?
Are we still having drivers protect the buses?
Yes to both
Everything is going to be released carefully.
Most info will not be released until Friday via carrier pigeon.
Keep your eyes open for the men with the yellow lapel flower.
So is there going to be more info released about the shuttle service on discord or is that all going to be communicated in IRL stuff tonight?
Yeah I won't be in town tonight so won't be hearing of anything IRL... good question
If you cannot be in town for information speak to someone you know who is. That is the official policy from the organizing committee.
I've had to cancel speaking at the event since my personal security detail said it's too dangerous for me to attend but my husband and oldest son still want to go, is there a shuttle service? Can someone DM me?
I need a dm for information on parking/rally point times. I still need a group to go in with
@everyone McIntire Park is the parking and Rally Point. We will be providing our own "Security Attendants" independent of any police assistance. Shuttles will run from there. The Shuttles will be armed with security.
As in mounted M240B platforms with loose ROE for engaging hostile actors.
This is not an exaggeration. All opposition to the Shuttles is to be dealt with with extreme prejudice.
How frequent are they running?
As quickly as possible for round trip or as they fill up.
Thank you to all making this happen
Your race is in your debt.
U guys are amazing thank you!
@Tyrone to clarify, are you saying we should park within the bounds of mcintire park and our cars will be guarded?
That's amazing. You guys are awesome.
@everyone. There will be a portion of the lot where our people are guarding. I cannot be more clear than that.
Parking elsewhere is at your own risk. Period.
Is there any chance of brain malfunction?
Attending in general is at your own risk. Let's be honest
Is there enough room for parking there?
But meeting centrally is likely going to give you much greater numbers
Can I bring Rockwell's Hate Bus?
I was about to start deleting the concern trolling, but I'm leaving some of it now
Holy shit. We have had people on the ground every few days for over a month scouting.
We have expected 1,488 attendees and other than a few snafus, have the logistics to support it in place.
That's how we knew where to clear out the stacks of bricks Antifa was posting up and the bottles and weapons they were stashing.
After Charlottesville the 50th Anniversary of his assassination comes soon. I will be at one of his houses in Arlington VA and I will give him our salute.
A few windows with bricks through them. A few tires slashed. This is why those of us who organized the main event don't think it's overkill to park together and provide our own security.
We had a feeling vehicles would be targeted.
I feel like the Jew in the first Jurassic Park sometimes.
Is the parking area being guarded now? Or only tomorrow?
It wasn't organized and planned for because people didn't think it was necessary. Well...
Please forgive me but your reply isn't clear.
Exactly when will the parking area at McIntire Park be guarded with shuttles?
It will be guarded when cars show up as directed through proper communication channels.
Got it, thank you.
Thx for doing this. Hail victory!!
What is happening at shuttle parking??
Why do you ask?
I made my way that earlier
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