Message from @Tyrone

Discord ID: 336542668798820353

2017-07-16 13:57:47 UTC  

@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL @Tyrone we both have 15 PAX vans

2017-07-16 13:58:23 UTC  

I'll be happy to assist

2017-07-16 14:14:11 UTC  

👌 👍

2017-07-16 15:26:44 UTC  

Yeah I'm renting a 15 passenger van but all things considered it's gonna seat 10 to 12 after luggage and even then it's gonna be a tight fit

2017-07-16 15:34:18 UTC  

Talking about for shuttle to site up there @Pharaoh Bearclaw III - FL

2017-07-16 15:34:37 UTC  

Luggage and whatnot should be in rooms at that point

2017-07-16 15:36:50 UTC  

Ahhhh okay then yeah we can cram more at that point

2017-07-16 15:50:01 UTC  

More like a shuttle transporting groups of ppl from a parking area to event so cars won't be there @Pharaoh Bearclaw III - FL

2017-07-16 16:10:00 UTC  

@everyone Since the there appears to be confusion, I need:
One (1) person from any group bringing an 8-15 passenger van to be designated the POC and let me know how many vans and how many seats in their van. (Make sure when renting you get the walk away insurance, Antifa does something you call the company and tell them it's their problem and you need another van.)

I will be arranging for satellite meet up and parking sites. Further information on that will be coming shortly. This will take organization coordination. This will keep the exposure of small groups of people to a minimum.

If you don't want to play and just show up with your car at the rally because that sounds fine to you, YOYO man.
Further details will be forthcoming. Keep all other chatter elsewhere.

2017-07-16 16:10:34 UTC  

2017-07-16 18:13:18 UTC  

My only concern with using my Florida van is if there is damage and I won't be able to get the Florida guys back I'm time for work on Monday because of insurance crap. Let's say the front windshield is smashed and there aren't any replacement vans available from the rental service.

2017-07-16 18:14:17 UTC  

Unless your company isn't in Virginia, they are on the hook for getting a replacement to you.

2017-07-16 18:15:23 UTC  

They might have to bring it to you from D.C. or Richmond, etc or work an arrangement from another company, but that's what the insurance covers.

2017-07-16 18:16:12 UTC  

The other option is we all act like selfish libertarians and hope it's someone else's personal vehicle that gets hit or someone else's rental.

2017-07-16 18:16:46 UTC  

Regardless, the entire purpose is to keep all the total amount of vehicles at risk to a minimum, but primarily reduce the risk to ALL of our people.

2017-07-16 18:17:15 UTC  

Agreed. Just want to make sure there is a backup plan for a worse case scenario here.

2017-07-16 18:18:35 UTC  

I'll talk to enterprise to double check that they will provide transportation in case of an (((accident))).

2017-07-16 18:31:21 UTC  

In the event something happens cops will be involved and adjustments will have to be made to remove people from the scene. This will be a game time decision.

2017-07-17 16:05:09 UTC

2017-07-17 16:05:14 UTC  

This will be us

2017-07-17 16:20:24 UTC  

I know NC law is on the books that driving over protestors blocking roadways isn't an offense. This is crossover for this channel and VA law.

2017-07-17 16:21:17 UTC  

Sure would be nice.

2017-07-17 17:37:18 UTC  

@MadDimension I am renting a 15-passenger van and bringing a group from the S.C./central-NC area. We will be arriving on Aug. 11 and leaving Aug 13. I'd like to volunteer our van for whatever it can be used for while we're up there. Most of us are staying at the NC Haus.

2017-07-17 18:03:25 UTC  

Thanks @SCnazi

2017-07-24 05:10:39 UTC  

Friendly reminder to consider using Uber/Lyft services to be dropped off at safe locations close to Lee Park. Using one of these services would eliminate the danger of your car being targeted/damaged after you drove and parked it in the area (likely with some Trump/NRA/other sticker on it).

2017-07-24 05:15:19 UTC  

Thats bad advice and also doesn't belong in this channel

2017-07-24 05:24:51 UTC  

Probably better than your idea of renting a school bus from the local school district, imo.
If you have reasoning as to why you think using Uber/Lyft is a bad idea, however, I'm more than willing to listen.

2017-07-24 05:41:18 UTC  

Also, this absolutely belongs in this channel, as it directly relates the topic of shuttle service to the event. Individuals have expressed concerns over having their owned/rented vehicles damaged, and this is an issue that needs to be addressed.

2017-07-24 05:44:08 UTC  

Yes, drive to a cliff and use a glider to get to the park.

2017-07-24 05:44:17 UTC  

Beat that.

2017-07-24 05:47:51 UTC  

Tfw shit-tier Hindenburg transportation

2017-07-24 07:45:54 UTC  

Using an Uber or a Lyft, at best, you can travel in a group or 3-4 (limited to the number of passengers in the vehicle). Right off the bat, that's a dumb idea.

2017-07-24 07:47:25 UTC  

I've also had situations where Uber and Lyft were booked solid for an hour at a time with just a few seconds here and there where a car became available before it was booked by somebody else. That kind of variability introduces an element of uncertainty that you don't want to have in situations like these.

2017-07-24 07:47:42 UTC  

Also, we'll have hundreds of people. I doubt there are that many Ubers/Lyfts.

2017-07-24 07:48:12 UTC  

Also, if the driver feels that the situation they're getting into is unsafe (by driving close to a mob), they can reasonably deny taking you as close as you'd want to be.

2017-07-24 07:48:31 UTC  

It's just a shit idea all around, especially when there are better, more reliable options being worked on by our people.

2017-07-24 07:49:27 UTC  

I understand that your plan is to take an Uber, have it drop you off a few blocks away, and then walk the rest of the way, but I assure you that that is a very bad idea.

2017-07-24 07:49:56 UTC  

tl;dr: "Thats bad advice and also doesn't belong in this channel"

2017-07-24 10:30:05 UTC  

Even ignoring the issue of you arriving in a small group (or alone) and leaving yourself open to attack or harassment, you will probably not be able to get an Uber in the immediate vicinity after the rally, and there will likely be no extra space for you to jump on one of our shuttles if you need to get out quickly. Do you really want to be left alone in a crowd of antifa while the bulk of the rally heads back to get on a shuttle to leave?

2017-07-24 10:31:12 UTC  

(But maybe you'll get really lucky amd your Uber driver will be a local commie! That'll be fun.)

2017-07-24 10:41:32 UTC  

I'm trying to create a system where everyone will mass early in one close but secure location. Vehicles will be returned multiple satellite locations with drivers only.
Everyone will be shuttled to the event in very large groups so there will never be less than a few dozen together.
Afterward. Several groups of dozens at a time leave. When everyone is at the off sight rally point the shuttles will take drivers to get their vehicles. Convoys will return and from the satellite sights and large groups will leave simultaneously.
If people work together, follow the plan and don't try to be on their own program, this should limit everyone's exposure to vandalism or injury.
That's the wave tops. Without the satellite locations nailed down. I decided to post it early because I need people to conceptualize it, so that we don't have people going off script on game day or trying to tinker with things and screw up the broader system.

If you have suggestions within this framework. Please submit, but we do not need multiple people trying to devised there own system. The strength is massing the most of us as possible. @everyone