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you had nazi germany on one side who were out to claim an area of the world and exterminate all those who they found outside the standard of being "german" on the other side you have japan cutting swaths through china with an idea that they are the chosen people master race over all others and destined to rule all other people and exterminating any who did not concent
extreme problems call for extreme messures
I don't claim to be an expert on this, I just don't like militaries targeting civilians
Anyway, I have to put my phone away cause I'm going into a theatre
every military in ww2 targeted civilians
I don't know many who would love a good civilian bombing, so I understand that
one could only argue that the allys did so the least
So every military was wrong, and the allies were the least wrong
Such is life.
most of the time our bombing target civilian military suppliment structures like munitions factorys, rail roads, airports, naval ports, and bases of opperations
Thats why Hiroshima was targeted, actually. It wasn't just a random pin on a map.
That, and it would have less casualties than targeting Tokyo. I don't think the Japanese would have forgiven us if we did that lol
Also, it would have caused more fighting. Its like shooting them in the thigh, and then say if you dont surrender, you bleed out or get shot in the head.
Japan did and the usa not only bandaged them they gave them a complete makeover
As shitty as targeting civs is, its a legit millitary tactic.
If the US nukes tokyo the high command dies
If the high command dies its unlikely the japanese surrender
Two nukes created anime
Imagine if NK got two nukes as well
anime was already being used before the war started
there are a couple of pre war drawings of various Imperial Japanese Navy ships as girls
What a dumb cunt lol
"Even if women say 'kill all men', they will remain protected by a system built in their favour"
She meant that "they" as "men" though =p
thats why she's a dumb cunt, cuz she meant to say the opposite
a strap on is so much weaker than a dick
Today Trump called for the military to form a new branch.
The Space Force.
It will be Star Wars done right.
Game over man, game over
it'll be the colonial marines from Aliens
hey, if we want to get back to the moon, or really ensure our species survival by getting off this rock, i say the best way is to tell the government there is an enemy on the moon, or on mars. Or that the ruskies are gonna build a base there, and we will be there in no time flat.
isint nasa a military org?
Hmm, so he can be the god emperor of the imperium?
Space race suppremacy
And now to wait for Russia to do the same since the gentlemans agreement not to weaponize space is officially gone. Rather than unofficially never adhered to.
Wasn’t it just that you can’t have nukes in space?
Nuclear weapons and other WMD cannot be placed into orbit, and celestial bodies cannot be used as testing grounds, military bases, and cannot have weapons of any kind. Conventional weapons in orbit are A-OK.
So ABM interceptor missiles & lasers wouldn't violate the treaty, and rods-from-god would probably also be OK presuming they are built with yields in line with conventional munitions.
pretty sure missiles wouldn't work nearly as well in space for intercepting anything.
outside of stuff already in a known orbit
I made this a WHILE ago.
BTW I'm True Neutral.
I guess Hitler was lawful good
Actually, Hitler would've been Lawful Neutral, I'm ashamed to say.
The person I most associate with "lawful neutral" is Sessions. I've never seen someone so literally try to obey the letter of the law.
Well, I mean
That chart is meant entirely as a joke, anyway.
true, just a statement I wanted to say that no one would actually listen to
but the actual political compass test does NOT actually measure policy
in much the same way that how much you bench press does not measure how well you'll do in a fight.
There are other factors
and part of the point of horseshoe theory is really that authoritarians who don't share the same political outlook hate each other, and people who are on the libertarian (chaotic) side of things are far more likely to be able to coexist in peace, at the very least.
So, in dealing with people online, I think I'm going to start reposting people's arguments with appeals to emotion removed before I continue to dismantle their argument. I just had one particular argument (where I didn't think to do this first). Anyone care to judge? I'm trying to leave in things that are relevant to the conversation, anything you'd remove or add, I'm fine tuning here.
Really, I feel like I could remove a bit more, but I want to have something to argue against in this. -_-
You can re-insert "Why not keep families together as they await trial?"
I want to start illustrating to people that most of their arguments are based in emotional appeal as opposed to actual reasoning.
Did I drop that? shit.
I'm going to give this a full second pass
Actually, I did leave the heart of that in as the first line
I just didn't have it repeat.
It's the same line, just in a different spot
I like Shapiro's take on it. Equating Mexican immigrants to the Japanese citizens in ww2 is a false narrative.
Mexicans aren't US citizens and are breaking the law by entering illegally.
I made a repeated point that this was equal treatment under the law, as well.
The Biblical stuff would be pointless but fun. Half the Bible's stories are about situations that the "right thing" conflicts with the letter of the law. It has a big "Context is key" aspect to it.
It can be complained about and asked for, but keeping families separated is a law actually, as a part of that Flores case
Has nothing to do with Trump
As an atheist, I wasn't interested in arguing bible with another atheist.
It never goes well.
They cannot put the children in jail
The children are not accused of a crime, they are minors.
Therefore, the government must treat them as wards of the state
(If a single parent is found inside a house they've broken into, their child isn't left unattended while the parent is arrested.)
Basis of my equal treatment under the law argument
Might want to mention how proper documentation allows for reuniting the family when things are cleared up
I've already bombed all of his arguments into retreat.
Was that facebook?
Totally did not just dox myself.
When people on my friends list in Facebook start saying the right are nazis, etc.
I take it as an ultimatum.
I either convince them there's another perspective
or they remove me from their friends list.
Either one is an acceptable outcome.
4 pointed argument dismantling any excuse for a weak border policy, too.
There is no option but to defend our borders.
And there aren't any better ways of handling the inflow from Mexico, either, because Catch and Release can't coexist with Sanctuary Cities.
Typically, an argument goes over better if you can throne a bone to emotion if you can. It isn't necessary, but winning the argument isn't the point. Convincing the other person there's a reasonable way to think in the opposite way is.
That's why I bring the Human Trafficking aspect into it
the part that I find disgusting.
Our state has to deal with 18 wheeler trailers on a monthly basis, with no ventilation, no climate control systems, just packed down with 50+ illegals.
Every once in a while, one will get abandoned.
If one of those people is an unwilling participant, lax borders makes it that much harder to find the missing person
There's also the high probability of rape for women who attempt to hire coyotes to make it across
Murder was illegal.
Pedophilia is illegal.
good luke ryecast you have your work cut out for you
What about Pedophilia? Love is love!
Being black without an owner wasn't necessarily illegal, just unlikely. Minor nitpick
I mean... yeah.
I don't support that argument, just posted it here because it was stupid af
Oh, I know
I got that from the post
I wouldn't think anyone here would go full godwin.
Not unless it was fully necessary.
If you draw bad similarities, at least be accurate in what was wrong with your examples.
There's that. There's also false equivalency.
There are immoral things that are illegal. Just because the people commutting the actual act have good excuses to do so, doesn't mean they should be allowed to commit the act.
Sure, mexico is a terrible place with skyrocketing crime rates, but that does not give anyone a license to jump to another country and leech off it's taxpayers
The fact that he ran out of things to mention and went straight to
is kind of telling.
Half work ethically is understanding what you are capable of. If you take on all the world's problems, there's no way to address each one properly and you hold up the ones who can for the individual issues.
ah turn that B into a P, a reverse IHOP if you will
legal/illegal doesn't make sense unless everyone involved is under the same law.
yeah for LGBT
I remember that whole fucking mantra about 'No human is illegal'.
Murderers aren't illegal, then, I guess.
Rapists aren't illegal.
I'm just waiting for someone to bring up that mantra again.
So I can remind them that there ARE illegal acts.
I liked the capital letters. The B looked like a butt.
And an alt versio
I kinda feel like Radcliffe might've missed the point?
What if the B was replaced with an actual butt?
what if the entire thing was replaced by a butt?
what if we printed tshirts on pants?
flip the b
P for pedophile
love knows no ages
Rad, you're missing it
School Shooters are not illegal!
the point is
'Bisexual' implies two genders
therefore it's problematic for the LGBT+ movement
Acts are illegal. Not people, and at the very least documentation needs to be done to resolve it.
drop the B, demand inclusiveness.
Adding a P out of nowhere convolutes the joke/bait
Part of the point is that this could actually be a legitimate movement.
i didnt realize shitposting was so serious
Oh, it's super serious.
Besides, any P in the LGBT+ Alphabet soup stands for 'Pansexual', not pedophile.
The joke's lost further on the intended target.
that ridiculous acronym has repeat letters
L and G being separate implies only two genders
You could have all the letters after the + and have it get cropped out part way.
Because it won’t fit on the shirt.
have it wrap around like half way the back
You're right, Nine...
I feel that's a bit too new-aesthetic
I would suggest that but I don’t think they make shirts that way.
the existence of Lesbian and Gay validate two genders.
im sure it can be done
But I don’t know if the company Tim uses does it.
Usually it’s just really basic front/back stuff.
I'd never heard of this before yesterday's podcast.
Can HoPT stand for anything problematic?
Hey guys wanna see the stupidest thing ever?
i remember 3 games being played through school like that
circle game was one
there was this other assassination game that was played
like a group of 10-15 kids would play everyday and act as if a closed fist with an extended thumb was a knife
you would have to sneak up on people and 'cut throats' from behind
youd be out for the day
if you got killed
by the end of high school it morphed into some weird nut punching game
That's the punching game I grew up with.
I tried to make PT Cruiser Bruiser a thing, but it didn't work
I almost feel that the gold branch things makes it too obvious it’s a joke.
This is unrelated, but I was listening to an interview with Karen straughan, and she talked about a study where in eight schools, the students were given a recess, which was completely unmonitored by adults. Apparently, bullying was almost entirely eradicated.
I think this looks pretty stylish, too
Take off the wreath, and people might wear it unironically
Also the back could have like twenty more letters on it.
Just fill it up.
Make sure to put LMNOPQRS at the end of the letter string
Ah good idea.
That shirt is great. Good job.
I'd buy that
I'd say we need another 1984 reference, off of this
But I can't think of any face we can actually use for Big Brother that wouldn't get sued into the ground.