But environment will influence access to resources

True. the people would invent things to be able to live in the colder environments .

This looks like something from a commentary channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHY04YtfQE

Or ways to gather stuff I guess?

Starting point would vary for all test groups as well

Maaybee. Within the survivable range

So near the middle.

Well more like, have 100 groups of test subjects

Have each group start from the warmest survivable environment

Towards to coldest

Ok

So theres also the issue with what would they start off with?

LIke say, they all need equal resources to begin

@Deleted User There may be some truth to that, but are Chinese and vietnamese both asian?

So, test subject groups of three categories.

Mixed, controll, and pure.

Put into environments that are either static, or dynamic

@LEER can we get back that latter.

Put into different starting points.

Sure I will bring it up when there is silence

Grouped by terrain type?

Ok sounds good @LEER.

So you said earlier @GingaBomber that you wanted to put them nearer to the colder parts.

Uh not really

ok so were do we want them?

More put each group in different areas

Ok that makes more sense.

I mean in different tests, all test groups are seperate from one another

So say we have a world that is a constant line

Hotter on one end colder on the other

Infinite.

And have groups start in constant points along that line

Starting from the coldest suvivable and warmest survivable

Or make them start in the middle and have their ability to travel into either end as part of the scoring

Ok I like the sound of that.

Also dont forget there is the dynamic one as well

One where seasons are a factor

Of course.

But that I dont know enough to comment.

We already know how seasons contributed to societal structure

Lastly, I was thinking of a goal.

Like when they start, they are only aware of two things

A goal, and a common language

ANd some will have no goal

And others no language

I'm just a layman race realist not Philippe Rushton.

Ah damn,

And Im just a scifi fan

But is a goal and language is important?

Culture is something that should happen as the experiment progresses

Ture cultures would occur.

Goals would also be, resource accumulation, pop growth or even migration distance.

Well they would devolp into something.

So heres the thing, from there people can prove is genetics plays a factor beyond a few things we already know.

So whats already proven or commonly understood as of now?

We have intelligence which is split into ability to grasp new ideas, ability to develop new ideas, and ability to process ideas.

Learning/adapting, creating, and using.

I think that the whites and Asians would develop those ideas because they have a higher average IQ then the Blacks would.

Then theres also physical

Though people atributed that to resource availability

I mean, dont forget that whites were in an environment that nessessitated that

Seasons

Also, would it be more accurate to put in an even grouping of males and females. and have them all be the same? As in, the single defining traits of all of them put into one individual.

In each test.

With a larger one consisting of all different.

I'm going off the averages. but yes there would be some outliers.

We kinda need outliers I guess

Like I dont think a society of all geniuses would survive well

Since they will be busy coming up with new ideas, and bickering with one another. Without the less intelligent there to put them to use.

And well a society of idiots will end up with obvious consquences.

But lets just put it in as a test case

More test cases grouped. Most intelligent, least intelligent, and average

And mixed equally

So we get a bell curve

Outliers are a thing but for example if a environment which had very bad winters which to survive the people who live in that environment need to have a average IQ of say 90 to just get by. That would mean that if the people in that environment had a average IQ of 80 most of them wouldn't survive. There would be some outliers who would but if their aren't enough that population would die out.

So how the smartest black would perform against the dumbest asians for example

But well, you can also study societal structure from that alone

How each group will treat their smartest and dumbest

True the dumb ones would die in those types of winters.

Thats also kinda culture in its own

At first id assume.

Theres also physical strengths but thats kinda very diverse.

That depends on the population

Asians arnt tough by average. And id reckon outside the millitary whites arnt either.

I know obesity is to blame

And that not all are weak

Ignore extremes here as well, we want the average healthy person with no blemishes

That includes being of "optimal" weight

Some groups tend to be nearer to the average while others have a greater cluster. And that is also compared to males and females for example White males tend to have more geniuses but alot more retards while female whites tend to be nearer to the average.

Compared to blacks both Whites and Asians aren't very tough on average.

Isnt that true for all races though?

That women are generally more consistant?

Cause if one men is defective, thats just one gene gone. But a woman being defective is disastrous since thats alot of potential decendants gone

I think so. I know Asians tend to be more consistant compared to whites.

Though thats also due to less dynamic environment Id argue

Its alot of different terrain types there.

But I dont think they change very much over the seasons.

As I said earlier I'm just a layman so I don't know for sure.

Ah just offering my point.

I would imagine that would play a part.

Theres also another factor, resource availability

We have the japs that got on with very little metal and the euros that got on with well, enough of it

So how hard it will be to gather food.

Pleantyful with no seasons would be like africa or south america?

Pleantyful with seasons is like europe.

True have less resources available would create alot more pressures.

Or just change the focus

Like alot of resources can mean two things

They dont bother with innovation, or they have more time to innovate.

With that I would point out that Africa is very resource rich which would make it a easier place to live. Which is why I think that blacks evolved the way they did. They just had a easier environment which prevented selection of genes for intelligence and prevented innovation.

Hell, id say the same for the mid east before the sahara started eating everything

Also, you said earlier

Very ture.

the lack of seasons

No reason to unite against a common threat

all very true.

So it became of the smartest

To the strongest

The ones that survived were the best at fighting and taking.

And time spent innovating was time spent not training and fighting

And well, concentrated resources would create a culture of fights over resource points

I would also add the ability to organize. The Europeans and Asians created towns which organized into cities, then organized into countires and then into empire.

Though id argue that communication made it easier to do so

And well, it was like a race

YOu had to choose a side or be wiped out

True you can't organize if you can't communicate effectively.

All that needed to happen was one tribe getting bigger than another through growth.

And it dominoed from there.

And well, it got to a point where the nation couldnt communicate within itself efficiently.

And thats how it would then collapse when the people were too spread out to have a common goal.

Do Indians and Pakistanis count as Asian?

I would say evolution tends to take shortcuts. I think a good example is visual spatial intelligence which allows people to navigate over long distances but that bassicly useless when maps were invented.

Arabs? Mesopotamians?

Actually, you could argue that innovation also makes certain traits unessesary

Like before the asians, it were the indians who were amazing with math

But well, say if every one had a calculator, how long before they dont see any reason to keep going with math

True some inventions make somethings that evolved useless.

You cant affect that with the starting conditions in my opnion

@GingaBomber you'd still need math for theoretical concepts

Besides the demographic of the test group

For example what use is being very strong these days.

Surviving in a city?

Self defense?

I mean, people are coming up with situations for an excuse to be strong

Like sports.

Manual labour?

And jobs.

Being strong is pretty useful

But we live in a society where the weak are compensated by the strong

The weak compensate with other means

Or innovation allows the weak to contribute

Yeah, machines and guns, I suppose

So like prosthetics or tools

But being strong serves the same purpose as before

Which will affect the culture progression

I was just giving it as a example I'm sure there are better examples to prove the point.

So how they treat the weakest/dumbest at the start

It was a good one

Enough

And well, how they progress

Most societys get ahead by discarding the young and weak

Weak young I mean

I think the visual spatial intelligence was a better one because we have maps and other means of navigation.

Well warfare is something common though

With all cultures

Like say, a sharper knife needs less force to deliver the same amount of damage

And well, to defend youself, youd have to learn how to fight, and the different methoids your opponent might use

But all you need now is a gun, an alarm, eyesight and a working hand.

And a brain

Well I've enjoyed this discussion but I have to go to work in the morning.

Ah me too

Good night then.

But you know why I decided to change the topic earlier right?

I was hoping we could discuss it without the emotional investment.

So sorry if it was so abrupt.

Same topic, but in a different manner.

That was probably a good idea.

Well, if it works, id do it again. I had fun and I hope you did too, have a good one.

It was a interesting thoughts experiment.

You too mate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugyqOSUlR2A

@Deleted User that's about right. Basically, conform politically. They can't define what to do, only who not to vote for.

I'd ask her further, but she's my girlfriend's best friend and I don't want to piss her off

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I would counter your claims that innovation makes evolved traits useless.

take of example the internet. Given how easy access to the internet is in most developed worlds (and even in some non-developed worlds) the need to memorize certain info has become near useless. Why do i need to know how to fish when i can just look it up when i need to? However, that doesn't make the process of memorizing or learning stuff useless. Now you use the space in your head that was dedicated to one learned action for remembering how to find the knowledge of several different things when you need them. Visual spatial intelligence is still needed to convert what is on a map into what is in front of them in the real world. People who are bad at navigating are still bad at navigating, even when you give them a GPS. Things are invented and designed to free us up to use those sames faculties in new ways.

Innovation doesn't make evolved traits useless, evolved traits simply result in further innovation.

another example: I am decent at math. not the best but apparently better than most of my classmates. Because i had a calculator to do 2+2 didn't mean i didn't need to know 2+2. it was a speed aid to allow for faster computation of a problem. However for some things, like 2+2, the calculator was slower than just knowing it, or knowing how to calculate it in my head. However, on complex problems, it was additional brain power.

also often times, the presence of a calculator didn't make those classmates actually better at math

just because you test well doesn't mean you know anything.

I mean its a given that some traits are less usefull as time goes on.

But some will stay relevant.

Like it only proves you know how to do something. You know what adding is, but not how to do it without aid.

You can argue that tech also lowers the barrier of entry as well.

Or that it allows people more time to to spend on other tasks.

it allows for specialization

which is both good and bad you could say

means people get extraordinary at doing things, so well they are better than whole groups of people doing the same thing. However, means these people are usually terrible at doing anything else other than their specialty

its both a blessing and a curse

and means that people who are maybe average at everything are left with nothing to do

i'd say start with her

quick, someone hand her a gun! she is clearly failing at her other suicide attempts

I agree.

She does children’s cartoons, which is pretty fucked up.

So Super Man is against a wall in the Atlantic Ocean blocking European immigration?
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Which was presumably built by the US government in accordance with the democratically expressed will of its citizens.

so... an illegal alien is destroying something that americans constructed?

lmao

i love how the left says "we are build on immigrates" then forget the entire point of Ellis Island, which turned people away for various reasons

Dosent help that they dont differenciate between legal and illegal

https://twitter.com/FoxSportsBrasil/status/1012000729010180098

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Good quality shitposting

But it should have been huehuehue no ?

I'm archiving that

but why?

Cos it's gold and may be deleted

I take it germany lost against brazil? At least I won't have to deal with months of football related advertising then

it only gets gold if switzerland and serbia win later today 😄

nah, bavaria lost against south korea 😄

always satisfying to have one of those standard "pro" teams get canned early on,

I was sad when Argentina still made it

i find it satisfying whenever bavaria loses 😄

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/uttarakhand-court-sets-5-decibel-limit-for-loudspeakers-your-breathing-is-louder/story-1Uj2YgYlPmwMbK10AqsguO.html

Tfw silenced

Nice one

So they cant complain that the govt dosent let them

Lol previously it was just Hindu temples

Good on them

Looks like Trump's caps lock button is broken https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1011952266268545024?s=19

Liberals using statistics

A clip from Terry Gilliam's Brazil, a satire inspired by 1984.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZPlgOWbkcY

sargon...

Of course a dem says that

Get guns or depend on the police

isn't the answer a good reason to switch sides?

I dont know

Some leftist told me she hated guns because they enforced inequality

My answer was that if they didnt sell enough to purchase one. They dont deserve security.

And that they dont value the life of themself and their family more than the price of a gun

If you can't scrape together the money for a nugget you got problems.

i like how her name is slaughter

Her plans for the repubs once the guns are gone