Ok I look forward to hearing your reply.

Native americans built tribes

Wait since Asians and Europeans both had Monarchies then why isn't Asia western?

GOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!

They largely are, or at least have adopted aspects of western culture, haven't they?

Oh yes, they have.

BUT

China used to be fully commie, but it wasn't working out until they adopted some captialism.

Well, they're on their way to communism again, potentially.

You know most of Asia was under European control for centuries.

Yes. Your point?

Well, to be fair, so were parts of Africa.

why wouldn't they keep a better culture?

remove better, replace with foreign.

anyway

But why?

back to the GOOD QUESTION part of things

Why?

Over in the European corner of the world, we had Christianity.

Over in the Asian corner, Christianity wasn't as much of a factor.

So did other parts of the world.

Aussie, how do you make a taco?

yes I know religion is important but parts of Africa had it to but didn't become western.

You're talking about these factors as if it's just a single one that makes up a culture.

I think race is the defining factor. Western culutre in eastern europe survived communism becase culture is downstream from race.

And yet you think 'White' is a race.

I mean, damn

That is what the caucasian race is known as.

that's really how you REALLY let them get you.

That's really how you let them be able to say 'There is no white culture', and actually have it sound true for a second.

Since we're actually French, Irish, English, Scottish, German, Spainish, Norse...

all of which have their own rich, vibrant cultures

independent of each other

despite the shared skin color

Culture isn't based on skin color.

So, try again.

yes I know different nationalies have different forms of western culture but Western culutre is only made by whites.

Some whites.

Not all whites.

Race is more then skin color mate.

I don't even know what point you're trying to make with that.

I mean, I basically just said the same thing

that 'White' is a simplification.

A way to make ACTUAL diversity inconsequential.

The drastic differences in French culture and German culture are pretty remarkable.

Hell, even the root classifications of languages tends to be different between them.

I don't think an islamist is going to care to differentiate between a Frenchman and an Irish. When they're plowing trucks down roads, I don't think they're trying to avoid the Germans in favor of mowing down the English.

I see it like this. Humans have three leaves of genetic groups. Ethnic group/Nationality, Race and the species.

I agree, Jaden.

That's the tragedy.

The differences between Nationalities will be smaller than the difference between races or between species.

That's why I see the case for European identity as different from that of American

one sec, Aussie, the grownups are having a conversation.

With the mass migration that Europe faces

it doesn't stand to kill European Whiteness. It's far worse.

It stands to kill French culture, German culture, Swedish culture, English culture

Yes western culture is different between Europe and America becase Americans are a different nationality to other white Nationalities.

The loss to genocide in Europe is far greater than the 'white race'.

Yeah, I'm easily against uncontrolled mass migration, especially from the middle east. I'm pretty sure most *sensible* people are. lol

Anyone who hasn't been sold on the 'white race' shit.

one way or the other

But without whites those cultures will die. Even if asians replaced europeans or any other type of non white.

If you collectivize White people as one race of people, you cheapen European heritage

In the same way you cheapen Asian heritage in much the same way.

I don't becase as I said I see culture on three levels. Nationality/tribe, race and species.

Tribal communities are somewhat different because they're too numerous and borderless to track

so Race is downstream from Culture.

Really I don't get this redefinition of Culture, anyway.

Race is a biological reality, culture is an organic thing which is created by the said race.

Because culture doesn't really have to do with any of that stuff.

It has to do with history, arts, societal structure. not race.

No mate if that was the case then Africa would be western.

That makes no sense.

You need that to make sense, but it doesn't.

How does the history of mainland France impact the Congo?

Europeans have been in Africa for centuries, they were influnced by western art and Europeans inposed a societal structure.

Were black people allowed to join these societal structures?

or were they FORCED to?

Because if you want to say that Indians willfully participated in British society in India, you're gonna have to explain Mahatma Ghandi to me.

To a certin extent. After the Bores and English got to know the black they created apartheid.

Nelson Mandella.

What about the terrorist?

The implication you bring up is that, were they not forced to join these societal structures, they would continue to be tribalistic. I don't think you realize the point you're making here is that "the only reason these societal structures existed in these countries is because it was forced upon them", with the implication that otherwise their 'natural state' is to devolve back into tribalistic society.

Unless I'm missing something.

You're mostly correct.

The Tribal culture is what was theirs.

And I know how Aryan is going to connect that

the key aspect is subjugation

Good point Jaden blacks make a society africanized when they take over just look at Haiti, Jamaica and Africa.

There are those willing to adopt another culture, and those that aren't.

Subjugation of a society does not cause those subjugated to magically accept their oppressor's culture.

Just like if Australia were to fall under Sharia Law

and you were to oust that regime

I suggest you read Where black rules white : a journey across and about Hayti. it explains how Haiti was western but when the blacks kick the French out it became africanized. https://archive.org/details/whereblackrulesw00pric

You wouldn't retain sharia law.

Because that doesn't jive with your culture.

Well, because Sharia Law is literally contrary to western culture. It's an objectively worse system, not just culturally but also in function.

Thats a religious thing and most likely not as the balkans have shown.

Western Culture is contrary to tribal culture.

That doesn't mean they're on equal footing in terms of viability.