And frankly, the United States is the only nation that's come close to having the opportunity for it to happen.

But you keep using this example of Blacks.

Like I said

you need to just admit that you hate black people

It's a lie you keep telling yourself, that you're not racist.

Also an ad-hom.

Bite me.

You don't seem to recognize naturalized Hispanics

your stats against them include that of illegals

Do blacks commit crime at the same rate? No. Do blacks have the same average income? no. These are things europeans after a few generations have done but blacks who have lived in America for generations even in the North haven't.

none of the statistics that you've shown include Asians, either.

I don't hate black people I'll just admit that they can't make a western society like all non whites.

Among hispanics, those who are here legally are far more comparable to white people.

The disconnect that occurs when you've got a competing culture and language invading a society

That's where that Hispanic crime statistic comes from.

Quite simply, in order to assimilate to a new culture

there has to be a will to.

No they aren't.

Ok how will you get them to interate then?

I've told you this.

What about those that refuse to assimilate? Regardless of race, mind you. This can apply to a Russian who refuses to adapt to, say, Canadian culture as much as anyone else.

Tell me again then.

Fix the nuclear family > more income in black families + no reliance on welfare > black children will have father figures + discipline > reduced crime

How will you get the goverment to end wellfare? You won't win an election on that platform.

That’s a whole different problem.

But how will you do it?

If the left loses power it might become possible.

I would say it's kind of related, considering an earlier conversation we had about most minorities always voting left.

They are digging their own graves by going even more to the left so maybe it will happen.

Even otherwise conservative minorities still tend to vote left.

How would you get the government to enact a 'passport buyback system'?

(from people who generally don't have passports)

They have. The president is Republican, the Congress is Republican and the senate is Republican.

pfft

no, it's jnot.

See, you don't understand this shit.

The left still has cultural power, though, which is arguably more important.

Politics is downstream from culture.

First off, the senate's purple, not red.

Republicans still need Dems to pass things. They need a greater majority to do things on their own.

And that's vital if we're going to get anything passed.

We've got to have 60 in the senate to do jack shit.

And culture is downstream form race. What's your point?

Gen Z is super conserative if my memory is correct. The left's power IS waning.

Culture is not downstream from race.

Then name a non white western Country?

Yeah, I wasn't gonna bring up Gen Z until I looked more into it, but if it's true then Gen Z will be far more consverative than any generation in the past... what, 50 years?

You can't becase culutre is downstream from race.

That's an ignorant question.

The answer to that question is in the name

'Western'.

We've been over this shit before.

Modern western culture is an offshoot from western monarchy

How is it ignorant? western culutre is the best culutre so why wouldn't other races adopte it if they could?

Which developed in our corner of the world

Not magic soil. Don't give me that shit.

But exists in white countries all over the world.

It seems like you do believe in the magic soil theory.

simple

fucking

maps.

South Africa was western when it was run by whites but blacks take over and it becomes africanized why?

Rhodesia.

Yes another exsample. Thankyou Jaden.

I would point out Liberia, but they were actually doing pretty fine on their own.
Until they had the audacity to try to get off of the US petrodollar.

"Whoops, time for a regime change."

South Africa is undergoing a communist revolution.

The west didn't just happen to be created in Europe as Jared Diamond would have you believe. It was created and sustained there becase white people live there. Eastern Europe was communist but become western again becase it has white people there.

who the fuck is Jared Diamond?

Sounds like a jewelry store owner.

Not sure.

The guy who wrote Guns Germs and Steel.

Haven't read it.

Oh yeah.

I was actually more interested in reading "Death of the West" by Pat Buchanan sometime.
Apparently a lot of the predictions he made in his book are becoming scarily true, right down to the prediction of something like the migrant crisis.

Basically he says that it was all becase of resources but that leaves the question, why has the rest of the world become western?

Why was Gunpowder invented in China?

Why is anything

done anywhere?

The extent to the validity of your argument is that no real great nation, western or otherwise, formed in south Saharan Africa.

it was done by accident. It took the european to make it into a powerful weapon.

Are you implying that Whites are inherently warlike?

It took white people to figure out how to kill another person with it?

But why? There are large amounts of reasources farm exsited in africa too.

existed* africa* too*

Good god, man. Type like you got a first-rate education.

Seriously if it all depends on resources then why didn't they?

That's an argument you made

not one that I made.

It's not my place to defend that.

Why do you think africans aren't western then?

Because they didn't develop the same forms of early governing that we did.

It'd take far more research for me to get a more detailed answer as to why, but to say that formation of governing bodies is genetic is insanity.

Europeans built monarchies

Africans built tribes.

Asia built monarchies