Message from @JadenFrostwolf

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2018-03-09 07:42:52 UTC  

Were black people allowed to join these societal structures?

2018-03-09 07:42:58 UTC  

or were they FORCED to?

2018-03-09 07:43:58 UTC  

Because if you want to say that Indians willfully participated in British society in India, you're gonna have to explain Mahatma Ghandi to me.

2018-03-09 07:44:16 UTC  

To a certin extent. After the Bores and English got to know the black they created apartheid.

2018-03-09 07:44:34 UTC  

Nelson Mandella.

2018-03-09 07:44:53 UTC  

What about the terrorist?

2018-03-09 07:44:59 UTC  

The implication you bring up is that, were they not forced to join these societal structures, they would continue to be tribalistic. I don't think you realize the point you're making here is that "the only reason these societal structures existed in these countries is because it was forced upon them", with the implication that otherwise their 'natural state' is to devolve back into tribalistic society.

2018-03-09 07:45:04 UTC  

Unless I'm missing something.

2018-03-09 07:45:30 UTC  

You're mostly correct.

2018-03-09 07:45:59 UTC  

The Tribal culture is what was theirs.

2018-03-09 07:46:22 UTC  

And I know how Aryan is going to connect that

2018-03-09 07:46:40 UTC  

the key aspect is subjugation

2018-03-09 07:46:45 UTC  

Good point Jaden blacks make a society africanized when they take over just look at Haiti, Jamaica and Africa.

2018-03-09 07:47:00 UTC  

There are those willing to adopt another culture, and those that aren't.

2018-03-09 07:47:48 UTC  

Subjugation of a society does not cause those subjugated to magically accept their oppressor's culture.

2018-03-09 07:48:05 UTC  

Just like if Australia were to fall under Sharia Law

2018-03-09 07:48:10 UTC  

and you were to oust that regime

2018-03-09 07:48:13 UTC  

I suggest you read Where black rules white : a journey across and about Hayti. it explains how Haiti was western but when the blacks kick the French out it became africanized. https://archive.org/details/whereblackrulesw00pric

2018-03-09 07:48:19 UTC  

You wouldn't retain sharia law.

2018-03-09 07:48:49 UTC  

Because that doesn't jive with your culture.

2018-03-09 07:48:59 UTC  

Well, because Sharia Law is literally contrary to western culture. It's an objectively worse system, not just culturally but also in function.

2018-03-09 07:49:12 UTC  

Thats a religious thing and most likely not as the balkans have shown.

2018-03-09 07:49:18 UTC  

Western Culture is contrary to tribal culture.

2018-03-09 07:49:36 UTC  

That doesn't mean they're on equal footing in terms of viability.

2018-03-09 07:49:36 UTC  

And that's not to say that all cultures are equal

2018-03-09 07:49:42 UTC  

Right. lol

2018-03-09 07:49:44 UTC  

But that one is theirs

2018-03-09 07:49:46 UTC  

and one isn't.

2018-03-09 07:49:59 UTC  

Why is it theirs?

2018-03-09 07:50:08 UTC  

What is linking them to that culture?

2018-03-09 07:50:42 UTC  

Well, their history.

2018-03-09 07:51:09 UTC  

Cultures that have changed and improved also have history, though.

2018-03-09 07:51:11 UTC  

Even under Roman rule, the jews still maintained their culture underneath

2018-03-09 07:51:14 UTC  

The Balkans were ruled by Turks for centries and when they kick the turks out they become western again.

2018-03-09 07:52:35 UTC  

Did it, now?

2018-03-09 07:53:07 UTC  

yes i want the non white out. Will you help me on this quest?

2018-03-09 07:53:18 UTC  

lol no.

2018-03-09 07:53:19 UTC  

I thought Turkey was pretty western, up until islam started gaining power there?

2018-03-09 07:53:35 UTC  

what makes you think that's the moment to ask that question.

2018-03-09 07:53:43 UTC  

The Balkans turned Western, you say?

2018-03-09 07:54:04 UTC  

I got confused, I thought we were talking about Turkey. lol