lmfao

didnt he also say he wouldnt do it cuz he did nothing wrong?

we only just reached this phase? didn't we reach it the moment he got elected?

Reminder that the MSM was talking about Hillary pardoning herself if she got elected.

oh shit really?

didn't we technically reach it the moment when the position was made?

naw, because he wasn't powerful enough to really be considered a king

before that, he was just mad

no i mean like

didn't previous presidents have that right too?

idk if they do actually have that right.

https://i.redd.it/knq6j2cqk1211.png

glorious

Phillip DeFranco even said that it was legal to for example

The president taking a leave of absence, making the VP acting president, they could then pardon the original president
And promote them back to active duty

this makes me believe we should have the runner up for president, become the VP. i wonder how interesting that would make things

https://youtu.be/fSqxW9L-ZQM?t=14m29s

this part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBD6cPcF8Uw

would grind out political system to a halt

>black guy supporting second amendment rights
>left.exe has stopped working

>left.exe now starts yelling racist names at a black person

but yeah it seems there are loopholes inside the government that need to be patched up, which i dont think is a bad thing, as much as i like trump i think presidents have to much power currently

which is funny, because they really don't have that much power.

most of their stuff can be undone by another part of the government

If Trump has so much power, why is like every blue state in open revolt to his travel ban, which was an executive ORDER

and obamacare still around
Why isnt his desired DACA deal pushed etc

Presidents might have a lot of power,

But not nearly enough as people want to believe

and yes, fix loopholes

in fact, just crack government open, so much things arent essential in there

part of thinking that the president has to much power is that the federal governemnt has to much power

well by that reasoning, you are right

i'm still toying with the idea of making the VP the person who got second in the election.

make the government fight itself keeps it from fighting the people

so the opposing party?

basically

i mean, an opposing party

since they would be in direction competition.

but i don't know about how much power the VP has

so might not be the best idea

If both parties were honorable, i could find something in that,

But as they are,
You'd get like "President Madness"

A fatal disease in which a president commits suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head several times

cuz both parties would kill the president to seize power

and literally start like world war 3?

nah, just a lot of dead presidents

we'd have the 1000th POTUS by 2025

like that futurama episode you know? with the water people

Whoever kills the emperor becomes the new emperor

and their average reign is two weeks

i think obama actually used his power more than trump, while trump is doing a lot of executive orders its my opinion that executive orders should only be used in order for the government to react quickly to changes in the world but when obama did that "gay marrage" thing thats an example of an executive order being used to adress a social issue that should be handled by a greater society and doesent require the quick action of a president. any time power is used this way by a president is when i have issue

that better be a metaphorical death, because here, presidents don't die in office often, and the american people tend to get very upset. doubly so if its believed the opposing party was believed to be at fault

@Arch-Fiend give it time, obama had 8 years.

you have to read what i type in order to respond properly to what i say

I thought Obama was famous for his Exec Orders, cuz the reps fully blocked him 2nd term in congress

my opinion is simply that i think some executive orders are abuse of power while others arnt and that system doesent seem very regulated

cuz i remember there being an Exec Order to ignore immigration procedures for DACA people

oh they are,
Exec orders are technically absolute authority

well they are supposed to be a way for the president to fight back against the congress.

and congress has a way to fight back against the,

checks and balances

i dont think executive orders should be used that way

the way you fight against congress is veto

that requires congress to pass something to start with

executive orders if they are absolute power is just a system that is outside the normal governemnt

you cannot veto a bill that never made it to the floor

that is where exec orders come in

i dont think thats how the power was intended

to get past a party controlling the congress from keeping laws from even getting voted on

Executive Orders are exactly for that reason

They're there so that a President can enforce his view
but can be instantly dismantled by the next president

but the idea is that they aren't written out willey nillilly

only for like very special situations

whats the point of having a congress of 200 people if your just going to have a guy with no limit to how he can undermine it?

there is a limit

the Supreme Court overrides executive orders

yeah, executive orders are not just law

afaik

you can basically ignore them if you really wanted to

well look at that travel ban from those 7 muslim nations

didn't like half of America ignore that? and its currently awaiting SCOTUS final call?

"Like both legislative statutes and regulations promulgated by government agencies, executive orders are subject to judicial review and may be overturned if the orders lack support by statute or the Constitution."

yeah so there cant be an Exec Order to kill all male gingers 😦

but there is already a genocide on the black gingers!

yeah im not worried about that level of abuse

i mean, where are the black gingers?!

oh theres plenty

just reorder the letters in ginger 😉

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my consern is the use of executive orders to basicly do the congress's job for them. which often ends up undermining state govenrments

true, but afaik trump does the opposite in some cases, demanding congress fix it instead of just throwing an Exec order

i think executive orders should be used in responce to problems that will have great consaquences if they arnt adressed quickly and no other branch of the governemnt is as fast as the executive

i think that was their original purpose

"While they do bypass the U.S. Congress and the standard legislative law making process, no part of an executive order may direct the agencies to conduct illegal or unconstitutional activities."

to use it if something needs an instant fix, thats why the Exec orders can be rescinded very easily

Honestly the first problem they did was make executive orders be something with an indefinite time period

if you have to use executive orders in order to undermine congress then it should be obvious that is also what its being used for

"The president can amend or retract his or her own executive at any time. The president may also issue an executive order superseding or nullifying executive orders issued by former presidents. New incoming presidents may choose to retain the executive orders issued by their predecessors, replace them with new ones of their own, or revoke the old ones completely. In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court."

sometimes though it seems executive orders are being used to just do things that should be delt with by another part of the government

like gay marrage

more than sometimes imo 😦

more like "generally"

executive orders are hilariously stupid in how powerful they seem to be

well thats usually my complaint about the president having more power than i think they should