Message from @Dr.Wol
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and congress has a way to fight back against the,
checks and balances
i dont think executive orders should be used that way
the way you fight against congress is veto
that requires congress to pass something to start with
executive orders if they are absolute power is just a system that is outside the normal governemnt
you cannot veto a bill that never made it to the floor
that is where exec orders come in
i dont think thats how the power was intended
to get past a party controlling the congress from keeping laws from even getting voted on
Executive Orders are exactly for that reason
They're there so that a President can enforce his view
but can be instantly dismantled by the next president
but the idea is that they aren't written out willey nillilly
only for like very special situations
whats the point of having a congress of 200 people if your just going to have a guy with no limit to how he can undermine it?
there is a limit
the Supreme Court overrides executive orders
yeah, executive orders are not just law
afaik
you can basically ignore them if you really wanted to
well look at that travel ban from those 7 muslim nations
"Like both legislative statutes and regulations promulgated by government agencies, executive orders are subject to judicial review and may be overturned if the orders lack support by statute or the Constitution."
yeah so there cant be an Exec Order to kill all male gingers 😦
but there is already a genocide on the black gingers!
yeah im not worried about that level of abuse
i mean, where are the black gingers?!
oh theres plenty
just reorder the letters in ginger 😉
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my consern is the use of executive orders to basicly do the congress's job for them. which often ends up undermining state govenrments
true, but afaik trump does the opposite in some cases, demanding congress fix it instead of just throwing an Exec order
i think executive orders should be used in responce to problems that will have great consaquences if they arnt adressed quickly and no other branch of the governemnt is as fast as the executive
i think that was their original purpose
"While they do bypass the U.S. Congress and the standard legislative law making process, no part of an executive order may direct the agencies to conduct illegal or unconstitutional activities."
to use it if something needs an instant fix, thats why the Exec orders can be rescinded very easily
Honestly the first problem they did was make executive orders be something with an indefinite time period
if you have to use executive orders in order to undermine congress then it should be obvious that is also what its being used for
"The president can amend or retract his or her own executive at any time. The president may also issue an executive order superseding or nullifying executive orders issued by former presidents. New incoming presidents may choose to retain the executive orders issued by their predecessors, replace them with new ones of their own, or revoke the old ones completely. In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court."
sometimes though it seems executive orders are being used to just do things that should be delt with by another part of the government
like gay marrage
more than sometimes imo 😦