Message from @Grenade123

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2018-06-05 15:30:52 UTC  

afaik

2018-06-05 15:31:05 UTC  

you can basically ignore them if you really wanted to

2018-06-05 15:31:23 UTC  

well look at that travel ban from those 7 muslim nations

2018-06-05 15:31:38 UTC  

didn't like half of America ignore that? and its currently awaiting SCOTUS final call?

2018-06-05 15:31:54 UTC  

"Like both legislative statutes and regulations promulgated by government agencies, executive orders are subject to judicial review and may be overturned if the orders lack support by statute or the Constitution."

2018-06-05 15:32:29 UTC  

yeah so there cant be an Exec Order to kill all male gingers 😦

2018-06-05 15:32:50 UTC  

but there is already a genocide on the black gingers!

2018-06-05 15:32:51 UTC  

yeah im not worried about that level of abuse

2018-06-05 15:32:59 UTC  

i mean, where are the black gingers?!

2018-06-05 15:33:17 UTC  

oh theres plenty

2018-06-05 15:33:23 UTC  

just reorder the letters in ginger 😉

2018-06-05 15:33:49 UTC  

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2018-06-05 15:33:49 UTC  

my consern is the use of executive orders to basicly do the congress's job for them. which often ends up undermining state govenrments

2018-06-05 15:35:04 UTC  

true, but afaik trump does the opposite in some cases, demanding congress fix it instead of just throwing an Exec order

2018-06-05 15:35:10 UTC  

i think executive orders should be used in responce to problems that will have great consaquences if they arnt adressed quickly and no other branch of the governemnt is as fast as the executive

2018-06-05 15:35:27 UTC  

i think that was their original purpose

2018-06-05 15:35:33 UTC  

"While they do bypass the U.S. Congress and the standard legislative law making process, no part of an executive order may direct the agencies to conduct illegal or unconstitutional activities."

2018-06-05 15:35:47 UTC  

to use it if something needs an instant fix, thats why the Exec orders can be rescinded very easily

2018-06-05 15:35:58 UTC  

Honestly the first problem they did was make executive orders be something with an indefinite time period

2018-06-05 15:36:08 UTC  

if you have to use executive orders in order to undermine congress then it should be obvious that is also what its being used for

2018-06-05 15:36:34 UTC  

"The president can amend or retract his or her own executive at any time. The president may also issue an executive order superseding or nullifying executive orders issued by former presidents. New incoming presidents may choose to retain the executive orders issued by their predecessors, replace them with new ones of their own, or revoke the old ones completely. In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court."

2018-06-05 15:36:44 UTC  

sometimes though it seems executive orders are being used to just do things that should be delt with by another part of the government

2018-06-05 15:37:10 UTC  

like gay marrage

2018-06-05 15:37:12 UTC  

more than sometimes imo 😦

2018-06-05 15:37:17 UTC  

more like "generally"

2018-06-05 15:38:20 UTC  

executive orders are hilariously stupid in how powerful they seem to be

2018-06-05 15:38:26 UTC  

well thats usually my complaint about the president having more power than i think they should

2018-06-05 15:38:43 UTC  

honestly im not sure what their limits are

2018-06-05 15:38:46 UTC  

i dont think they are supidly powerful, but they are noticibly so

2018-06-05 15:38:56 UTC  

their limits are within the constituion

2018-06-05 15:39:08 UTC  

because as said before they can be overturned

2018-06-05 15:39:59 UTC  

also I love how the media refers to the cake ruling as a "narrow victory" when it was 7-2

2018-06-05 15:40:35 UTC  

what they mean to say is that the victory didint effect much of the law

2018-06-05 15:40:50 UTC  

oh I know

2018-06-05 15:41:11 UTC  

it's just an incredibly satisfying way to kick off pride month

2018-06-05 15:42:01 UTC  

i mean, all it does is hand bakeries the right to make this "gay only" month.

2018-06-05 15:42:05 UTC  

but they never think of that

2018-06-05 15:43:20 UTC  

Im more surprised there wasn't another bakery that said "We'll supply you for free"

You'd get insane publicity from the media

2018-06-05 15:43:38 UTC  

become the new abe lincoln

2018-06-05 15:43:49 UTC  

for freeing gay cake

2018-06-05 15:45:08 UTC  

free gay cake?