i dont think executive orders should be used that way

the way you fight against congress is veto

that requires congress to pass something to start with

executive orders if they are absolute power is just a system that is outside the normal governemnt

you cannot veto a bill that never made it to the floor

that is where exec orders come in

i dont think thats how the power was intended

to get past a party controlling the congress from keeping laws from even getting voted on

Executive Orders are exactly for that reason

They're there so that a President can enforce his view
but can be instantly dismantled by the next president

but the idea is that they aren't written out willey nillilly

only for like very special situations

whats the point of having a congress of 200 people if your just going to have a guy with no limit to how he can undermine it?

there is a limit

the Supreme Court overrides executive orders

yeah, executive orders are not just law

afaik

you can basically ignore them if you really wanted to

well look at that travel ban from those 7 muslim nations

didn't like half of America ignore that? and its currently awaiting SCOTUS final call?

"Like both legislative statutes and regulations promulgated by government agencies, executive orders are subject to judicial review and may be overturned if the orders lack support by statute or the Constitution."

yeah so there cant be an Exec Order to kill all male gingers 😦

but there is already a genocide on the black gingers!

yeah im not worried about that level of abuse

i mean, where are the black gingers?!

oh theres plenty

just reorder the letters in ginger 😉

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my consern is the use of executive orders to basicly do the congress's job for them. which often ends up undermining state govenrments

true, but afaik trump does the opposite in some cases, demanding congress fix it instead of just throwing an Exec order

i think executive orders should be used in responce to problems that will have great consaquences if they arnt adressed quickly and no other branch of the governemnt is as fast as the executive

i think that was their original purpose

"While they do bypass the U.S. Congress and the standard legislative law making process, no part of an executive order may direct the agencies to conduct illegal or unconstitutional activities."

to use it if something needs an instant fix, thats why the Exec orders can be rescinded very easily

Honestly the first problem they did was make executive orders be something with an indefinite time period

if you have to use executive orders in order to undermine congress then it should be obvious that is also what its being used for

"The president can amend or retract his or her own executive at any time. The president may also issue an executive order superseding or nullifying executive orders issued by former presidents. New incoming presidents may choose to retain the executive orders issued by their predecessors, replace them with new ones of their own, or revoke the old ones completely. In extreme cases, Congress may pass a law that alters an executive order, and they can be declared unconstitutional and vacated by the Supreme Court."

sometimes though it seems executive orders are being used to just do things that should be delt with by another part of the government

like gay marrage

more than sometimes imo 😦

more like "generally"

executive orders are hilariously stupid in how powerful they seem to be