Where you draw the line?

Then their perants.

Generations?

Hmmm... the United States, or Rhodesia.... **hmmm**....

Their parents

were from here.

also from america

lol

And what? YOu talking 8 sets there

also

@Deleted User tell me, why dont you go back to your home country?

by your own fucking logic

Like what if 2/8 are not american

So aussie, he refuses to leave.

What do you do?

i'm full german under that logic

Where ever his anseters came from then.

His ancestors came from all over.

YOu know that every generation the number of ancestors go up by a factor of

dude we are all ancestors of 1 woman

Then we imprison him like the Isrealies.

I mean, those arent really good solutions

your nationality is pangea

according to aussie

And that, Aussie, is where I enjoy my second amendment rights.

Like you suggesting something but not taking into account how to achieve that

So, you want him to leave and he won't, and your solution... is to keep him from leaving?

...OK.

Well, Im glat the 2nd ammendment exists I guess.

Then again, good luck with achieving that. And I mean it, its like trying to ban firearms. It will result in another civil war.

GingaBomer there is no "good" solution when the root of your problem is too much compassion and acceptance.

@Deleted User I don’t think you actually know how the system works in Israel and you just assume it works like an ethnostate.

So at that point, why bother?

So you attack the police right then you go to prison. People don't want to go to prison. These people go to prison and from there they will be sent home.

Antifa seems fine attacking police

Oh, so deported.

Yes over time they have to go back home.

Aussie

where is he from?

so if i am like 10% arab

you will deport me to some random middle eastern country?

I don't know anything about him so how could I know.

EXACTLY

So you don't know anything about him

So wait, I dont understand this part. We only got the goal here, but the costs of which and how to we have no diea?

you just arrested him

@ping The rule is that if you look White, and you fight for White interests, then you can stay.

and you're going to send him 'home'

Technically, I'm half German, and half a bunch of other stuff like Native American and Welish.
Am I American? I mean, my family (or half of it) technically came from Germany....

If I met him I could find out pretty qickly becasue you can tell where in the world non whites are from.

@GS then it has nothing to do with race?

@Deleted User Just in case you missed one of @RyeNorth's clarifying messages, we're talking about a black person whose family has lived in the U.S. since they were brought in as slaves in the late 1700s, is of upright standing in the eyes of the law, and is a productive member of society. This person does not want to leave the U.S. because they consider it to be home.

Race is 99% visually identifiable.

Isnt that pretty subjective?

Yes.

@Revan then we send them to Liberia or other english speaking countires in Africa.

Is it really a good idea to base a law on something subjective?

But that's not his home.

Did you not get the memo? We like White people because we are White. This is an entirely subjective movement of people.

So you're saying that no matter how long a person's family has lived in a given country, they should be sent back to whatever country their family is from?

Okay

Africa is not his home

Well, thats what I dont really get.

and african culture is not his culture.

We'll just gather up all the white people in the Americas and send them back to Europe

Oh I love subjective standards! Means I can make up bs about anyone I don't like and get them fed to the fire!

And in Australia as well

I don't know this guy @RyeNorth bt once I know is race and ethnicity I will know where he belongs.

the United States is his home, and western culture is what he claims.

I mean, when you allow subjective standards, you open up the system to implement others.

Aussie, you're fucking arguing for kennel clubs for human beings.

Like, what happens if in the future someone suggests sending whites to europe?

You end up with another Zimbabwe

I mean you trust the native americans to run things?

Yes send non whites home. If you think white countires should be white then why are you against that?

The United States is not white.

Even then, we still have no idea where people are actually from

America is a country for white people.

Up until this decade it was commonly accepted that all people came from africa

Not if we don't say it is.

Says who?

So Americans don't have a contiry in your eyes.

Well can I ask then, what will you give up to achieve that goal?

By your definition? No.

Fun Fact: Australiens are not part of the Aryan Race.

By the ACTUAL definitions, yes.

We've been over this, Aussie

So please stay out of europe, AussieAryan.

you warp the definition of 'nationality' to fit your purposes

Well, its subjective as well so...

as opposed to using them in their actual definitions

Americans are a people. It is more than just a peace of paper is a gentic grop of people who have built a nation.

Some of who are not white...

^ ^ ^

And you want to kick out

And well, you could say a small minority of it are or something

@Grenade123 the non whites in America are a different group.

I mean, who could forget the asians

no they're not.

Yeah, they are the original owners of this land

Yes they are.

No, they're not.

So how about you go back to Europe, this is their land, not yours

Well, lets not get aggressive here.

You are just trash Europe didn't even want

Not if you're defining them as non-Americans.

I mean, we wont get anywhere with this attitude

It's already clear to me that we won't get anywhere with any of these guys.

Okay, to summarise, Aussie just wants America for the whites, since they are the supposed owners.

How is a labour like a chiwawa? They are both subspecies of dogs. It's the same with whites and blacks.

Yoz really think that you are getting anywhere?

It's not good enough for them that we agree that a political nation should have the right to it's own borders

That's the types of whites who first came here. Ones not even other white people wanted.

Or was it something elese?

Well, if people are not getting anywhere, why even bother discussing?

wow, Aussie

You are absolutely retarded.

I mean I see this in every channel, if it wasnt a supposed Ethno Nationalist, it will be some leftist who wants to stir shit up as opposed to listening opposing viewpoints

'Chihuahua, Labrador, subspecies, and your point?

Do you deny subspeciation @RyeNorth?

They always put in some random link and then feed off the people who reply.

Yes.

I'm part irish, part british, part german...

I mean, if you want an opinion, you got it, but why bother if you are not going to listen to opposing views.

Then how do you explain dog breeds and human races?

Ayy, Irish represent.

Not saying that noone here is listening or anything.

I'm part otherkin part weeb part degenerate furry

Well... Even if different species of humans exist, do they physically distinct enough?

Oh yeah, that's absolutely right that race and breed aren't that far off from each other.

wanna know something that's going to sicken you?

And do we have enough info to know what aspects can be owed to certian features?

Mutts are generally more healthy than purebreds

Although I would argue the differences between human races aren't nearly as radical as those between dog breeds.

And well... We dont know which "purebreds" are actually pure.

There prity much the same thing there just different words to discribe the same thing in humans and dogs.

Rye I've already brought up dog Inbreeding to them

How to keep something pure genetically: incest

^ ^ ^

Not a race mate.

How to ensure something will be fucked up and die shortly after birth: several generations of incest

I mean it's all just genetics

Well, lets get back on topic

White is not a race either.

How is race, or breed, defined as anything other than a common ancestor?

You will form sub races naturally

Science has a small problem with your purity standards, it prefers diversity.

Like the polar bear white fur gene

Yes there are less dogs so it's harder to keep a bread going but there a millions of people different races. So there is enough genitic diversity in human races.

So then, how do we know if its a race, as opposed to a phenotype?

And at that, 'white' isn't a race, if race is the same as breeds.

I mean, Im not a geneticist

@Deleted User you can have a white person who is half black, but has white skin. Do you kick them out?

I think this is just getting caught up in terminology.

You, not being 'british' (or more likely, scottish) by being austrailian, is no different than my black friend not being 'african'.

Well, subjective definitions here.

No they just shouldn't bread.

Well, I want to catch up here

Yeah, but it's deterimental to the point where the actual ideas trying to be discussed are being lost in the noise, that's all.

But how would you know if they appear white and you never see their parents?

So we have a goal, and a supposed series of steps.

He'd know.

How about the results and the aftermath

That's what DNA tests are for.

Every human

What would we gain from this?

How much would it cost?

Tell me, have you checked out your DNA?

See, humans would come either with a certified purebred pedigree

or they'd be neutered at birth.

what about the white parents that have a black child, or the black parents that have a white child, what about them? where do they call in terms of your categorization @Deleted User

Well, we wont get anywhere with questions like that.

It's a good point. It is something that happens.

And the last one, what will you sacrifice to achieve this?

The blacks leave rember this won't happen over night it might take several years or decades even.

And what would we sacrifice to keep it as it is?

@Deleted User you didn't answer, have you checked out your DNA?

Yes I have.

It has happened though, parents in the UK have had white parents having black children and black parents have had white children, so where do those children fit in

Thing is, can we take your word for it?

And how far back did you look?

With DNA it tells you your persentages.

In theory, any part that would indicate having been from Africa should disqualify you from breeding, no?

The only opinion that matters with regard to Aussie's Whiteness is that of other White Nationalists.

And it wont matter though

@Deleted User just a question... do you consider jews to be white?

The children that are born to white parents, with white grand parents and have a really far way back of being white; who just happen to be black, they are technically white, so I ask where would you place them.

Only the opinion of the other ethnonats will

No Jews are a different race.

So well, Id like to know the reasoning here.

What happens if a christian converts to judaism?

I mean, you have a statement.

Race = Whatever is convenient for him at the moment.

Are the no longer white then?

But do you have something more substantial?

Judism is a religion yes but their is a race to.

He'll acknowledge white as a race

I mean, I dont want to fall into the issue of saying white as one race

but when it comes to the phenotype differences between slavs, italians, germans, british, russians, french, spainish

*shrug*

Well, to be fair, it is a bit complex with the Jewish, since there is both the Jewish race and the Jewish religion.

We got scottish, irish, european, english

list goes on

you know, the ACTUAL nationalities.

Yes those are ethnicities and nationlites.

that's redundant

Yeah, we wont get anywhere here, we all got different definitions for words.

Those mean the same thing.

Lets untangle this

Ah fuck I hate having to say this

Ginga, this is like arguing with an SJW about racism.

I wanted to avoid that

They'll keep defining it as 'Power + Prejudice'

Yes a nationlity is an enicty/racial group.

We wont get anywhere antagonizing ethnonats.

since the actual definition is inconvenient to their point

Tell me, at what point did humans become white? Do you have one iteration of human that you pin as the original white person? If so, do you know for a fact you are decent from that person alone, no other races mixed in at some point?

I mean the issue I have here is the law being extremely subjective

THere are too many factors to list down

And well, you cant do it bit by bit either

And well, who do you trust to achieve this?

Well, list it down

The thing is that a nationlity is a biological thing not just some civics. Once you understand that it all makes more sence.

Every ethnonat I see has very different definitions of race

'not just some civics'

stop using that word, please.

You've said that so many god damned times.

Well, we do agree on *mostly* everything else: the issue in Europe right now is the migrants and mass immigration. It needs to stop and they need to go, same thing with the illegals in the US. Mass immigration is highly destructive and *will* result in the destruction of the west as we know it if it is not stopped.
This we all agree on.

I mean, we are all against uncontrolled immigation here

Yeah.

yeah

Its the poisoned M&M thing again

and I won't 'understand that' because the moment you realize that racism = power plus prejudice, it'll all make sense as well

but, I just wnat to say Nationality and ethnicity are different

I just refuse to acknowledge false definitions of words

Like until we can screen out the poisoned ones, leave them putside

We can meet the alt right halfway on that issue. The problem comes when they start going on about legal citizens and "da joos."

Well, I like the nationalist part.

Not the ethno part.

Jaden's essentially right.

A nation is a people tell me how this isn't the case?

how*

An ideal?

I think its more of the ideals its people hold

And ideal isnt stuck to a race or a nationality

A nation is a people. A people is not a race.

My ethnicity is italian and french, my nationality is canadian

that is the difference

a people is a group.

Then what's the difference between an American and a Candian both like freedom.