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2018-09-17 23:14:04 UTC

Itโ€™s Christmas already?

2018-09-17 23:34:13 UTC

DiFi is Feinstein.

2018-09-18 00:50:00 UTC

in america can't see reason to avoid nuclear

2018-09-18 00:50:34 UTC

makes sense to avoid exporting the technology worldwide but so far as fear of meltdowns i think we are passed that

2018-09-18 00:51:02 UTC

weve had very good examples of what not to do, so being all weary of it is same as superstition to me

2018-09-18 00:51:38 UTC

as long as its well regulated go for it imo....

2018-09-18 00:52:43 UTC

payne says they had a teacher get scared of the idea after going to a plant, when i was in middleschool we did a trip to local plant and i trust it more because of that. fine to hate on the idea if it cannot be managed properly but so long as standards are in place its not worth fearing

2018-09-18 01:03:09 UTC

Uuhhhh

2018-09-18 01:03:11 UTC

Dudes

2018-09-18 01:04:02 UTC

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's a case of inbred Syrian conscripts shooting down their own allies.

2018-09-18 01:04:34 UTC

These morons lob S200s at every blinking light they see and then ululate in joy when something inevitably explodes.

2018-09-18 01:09:00 UTC

is express trustworthy?

2018-09-18 01:12:48 UTC

I think it's considered a tabloid.

2018-09-18 01:13:20 UTC

But the facts of the article seem sound.

2018-09-18 01:13:35 UTC

so they just forwarded the article from another source?

2018-09-18 01:13:40 UTC

One caveat being that the detection of French missile launch was reported on by a Russian source and is therefore dubious.

2018-09-18 02:30:52 UTC
2018-09-18 02:37:26 UTC

<:commie:463087263153258506>

2018-09-18 02:51:17 UTC

I vomited the last time I ate at that restaurant. I should go there again and eat more (try harder).

2018-09-18 02:53:37 UTC
2018-09-18 02:54:03 UTC

Sorry, I'm turning bitter or something and couldn't resist the chance to snark.

2018-09-18 07:00:27 UTC

Holodomor should be something mentioned in School

2018-09-18 07:01:15 UTC

And researchers should research the death under Communism due to Comminism in Russia and if they can, China

2018-09-18 08:51:37 UTC

Vote in your school board election. Write your legislators.

2018-09-18 08:52:33 UTC

There's a minor rebellion brewing in TX over curricula right now and how it ends will have impacts everywhere. The left pays attention to curricula. The right shows up for football games and leaves. That needs to change.

2018-09-18 11:57:30 UTC

Why am I only hearing of this now? Come on you Krauts, I know theres 2 of you in here.
https://twitter.com/AmyMek/status/1038986377038319617

2018-09-18 11:58:43 UTC

@Stefan Payne Any chance of a little translation please?

2018-09-18 12:01:18 UTC

What's he saying about Neo-nazis?

2018-09-18 12:01:22 UTC

That's like 2 Weeks old and I think I mentioned that here (or somewhere else)

2018-09-18 12:03:30 UTC

Its a very racist rant about Migrants. They Chant Lรผgenpresse, "no, they aren't Neo-Nazis, its Fathers and mothers going on the streets".

2018-09-18 12:04:50 UTC

That is what I'd expect, the Germans aren't that beta, especially the East Germans (there is still a Rift between the Capitalists and the Ex-Communists) and there is a fire burning and the people are loosing hope and the gouvernment is protecting the Non-Germans....

2018-09-18 12:05:47 UTC

To make it klear:
*If Merkel isn't dethroned soon, there is a good chance of a civil war*

2018-09-18 12:06:48 UTC

Thanks. This isn't the one where the man was killed a two other hurt is it? This is another one?

2018-09-18 12:07:21 UTC

This isn't the 35 Year old Carpenter, this is about a 22 Year old that was stabbed by Afghans that were arguing about who the father of a Child is.

2018-09-18 12:07:48 UTC

that was on a Marriage Party and those two were loud right next to that.

2018-09-18 12:09:07 UTC

I've got both those stories mixed. I thought the one that happened in Carpenter was because of this fight over who was the father thingy. Thanks for clearing things up.

2018-09-18 12:12:16 UTC

There are so many incidents, you can get them Confused, sadly...

2018-09-18 12:12:57 UTC

and the last thing I've heard was that one of those murderers was known by police, had falsified documents and his asylum thingy denied.

2018-09-18 12:16:28 UTC

As for that Video you linked: Just imagine a KKK Meating, where they are ranting about blacks. That should be rather close.

2018-09-18 12:17:12 UTC

So when ppl descibe these ppl as alt-right they aren't lying?

2018-09-18 12:22:25 UTC

They are angry Fathers and Mother, whose loved ones are at best endangered, at worse murdered or raped...
They are afraid to go outside because of the Violence caused by the African and Middle Eastern people, some even got injured by them, some even murdered and raped....

2018-09-18 12:23:12 UTC

Can you blame them for not liking those people and wanting them somewhere else?

2018-09-18 12:25:19 UTC

I don't blame the majority of people that are fed up of being ignored and lied to by the msm about what is happening to their country. I am also aware there are people that have been waiting for such events to happen so they can offer their solution.

2018-09-18 12:29:11 UTC

What is happening in Germany and over much of Europe is a travesty and was bound to have this effect. We can't ignore and demonize the that are standing up but we also can't let it get out of hand and they must be criticised if it is warranted.

2018-09-18 12:29:40 UTC

Civil war will happen anyway!

2018-09-18 12:29:45 UTC

That is the sad thing and a given.

2018-09-18 12:29:56 UTC

the only question is: Who will start it and who will win.

2018-09-18 12:30:39 UTC

The only solution to prevent that is to deport everyone that has no right to be here

2018-09-18 12:30:50 UTC

^^^

2018-09-18 12:31:59 UTC

You maybe be a Nazi but if you are right then I'm going to agree with you.

2018-09-18 12:32:27 UTC

No, I might be Autistic, and Pessemistic but not a Nazi!

2018-09-18 12:34:37 UTC

I don't mean you specifically. I mean in general. It doesn't matter to me who you are, if you are right about something I'm going to say so. Just coz someone is an islamic jihadi doesn't mean they are wrong about everything.

2018-09-18 12:36:57 UTC

Well, when talking about Jihadis, I disagree....

2018-09-18 12:38:20 UTC

Mate, no one is wrong about everything.

2018-09-18 12:39:58 UTC

Well, there are just too many really bad things in their books...

2018-09-18 12:41:00 UTC

there might be 1-2 things they believe in, that I might not totally disagree, but there are also many bad things they believe in, you don't want to know all that stuff...

2018-09-18 12:41:40 UTC

Agreed.

2018-09-18 12:49:20 UTC

btw, something unrelated: Aragaki is really cute

2018-09-18 13:00:58 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/491594483671105546/c4nwdt82sym11.png

2018-09-18 13:01:06 UTC

Thoughts?

2018-09-18 13:21:34 UTC

It's not really surprising.

2018-09-18 13:22:10 UTC

Its Weimar Germany level of Crazieness....

2018-09-18 13:22:17 UTC

you need to really bring that up in school

2018-09-18 13:22:21 UTC

and the Holodomor as well

2018-09-18 13:25:02 UTC

They are working on a (communist) revolution, wich was one of the factors that literally brught Hitler to Power

2018-09-18 15:15:35 UTC

thats what its come to huh

2018-09-18 15:17:01 UTC

If it was 38 years ago and he didn't do it again, why not?!

2018-09-18 15:17:15 UTC

if I look into your past, do I find some shit to ruin your life?

2018-09-18 15:26:07 UTC

Was she a child when it happened or was she a teenager? Her story keeps changing <:TimThink:482277772497125378>

2018-09-18 15:26:09 UTC

if it happened. if he did then thats not cool. but theres no proof and he cant even member the year it happened.

2018-09-18 15:26:25 UTC

they were both in HS i think

2018-09-18 15:26:34 UTC

*she csnt even remember

2018-09-18 16:10:58 UTC

I donโ€™t feel radicalized

2018-09-18 16:11:07 UTC

I dont think most radicals do anyway

2018-09-18 16:11:09 UTC

Moot point

2018-09-18 16:11:28 UTC

So my subs to click in that web

2018-09-18 16:11:48 UTC

I was painted red by YouTube

2018-09-18 16:11:53 UTC

Then again, wouldnt be radicalism be shit like going out there and spray painting "no step on snek"

2018-09-18 16:11:55 UTC

But I donโ€™t feel like a radical

2018-09-18 16:12:00 UTC

Whats red?

2018-09-18 16:12:06 UTC

how many abortions do you have to stop in order to grow to crowders level of evil?

2018-09-18 16:12:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/491642603851218945/image0.jpg

2018-09-18 16:12:33 UTC

๐Ÿ˜Ž I still donโ€™t understand it

2018-09-18 16:13:59 UTC

Hence the importance of the specification between the extreemes

2018-09-18 16:14:09 UTC

"Promote a range of political positions from mainstream versions of libertarianism and conservatism" OH NO, THE HUMANITY

2018-09-18 16:14:10 UTC

Excessive libertarianism? You get Cyberpunk2077

2018-09-18 16:14:15 UTC
2018-09-18 16:14:18 UTC

Excessive Socialism,\

2018-09-18 16:14:23 UTC

you get USSR and gulags

2018-09-18 16:14:28 UTC

Thanks for showing that thing tho bro, god damn

2018-09-18 16:14:37 UTC

I was thinking it was more a metaphor because the senates were regarded as a snake

2018-09-18 16:14:41 UTC

โ€œJoin or dieโ€

2018-09-18 16:15:07 UTC

I like how it didnt make an attempt to show who is libertarian and whos "white supremacist"

2018-09-18 16:15:24 UTC

Theyโ€™re just the same I guess

2018-09-18 16:15:33 UTC

To them yeah

2018-09-18 16:16:05 UTC

It's hilarious

2018-09-18 16:16:15 UTC

Its depressing

2018-09-18 16:16:29 UTC

Those feels when Chris Ray Gun, professional shitposter and partner of Laci fucking Green, is a white nationalist

2018-09-18 16:16:59 UTC

Lol @ the article they linked about the "intellectual dark web" too

2018-09-18 16:17:11 UTC

"Here are some things that you will hear when you sit down to dinner with the vanguard of the Intellectual Dark Web: There are fundamental biological differences between men and women."

2018-09-18 16:17:16 UTC

what r penes an vagine

2018-09-18 16:17:36 UTC

hormone socal consdruc

2018-09-18 16:22:09 UTC

I... think it's meant to be supportive of the IDW? But I'm not sure

2018-09-18 16:22:18 UTC

Oh god, president German inner security Organisation (Verfassungsschutz) (IIRC Equivalent to your NSA), gets a new job.
For stating facts and speaking truth -> there was no hunt on Migrants.

2018-09-18 16:22:45 UTC

new job?

2018-09-18 16:22:49 UTC

Like what he was fired?

2018-09-18 16:23:46 UTC

Yes, you can say that he was fired

2018-09-18 16:25:40 UTC

To the web above. No Lauren Southern? Pshht

2018-09-18 16:26:43 UTC

Lauren is right next to Stefan

2018-09-18 16:26:54 UTC

Styx is a bit too unpresent

2018-09-18 16:27:22 UTC

looks like a web of diversity to me

2018-09-18 16:27:40 UTC

No Idea what they represent. BUt looks weird.

2018-09-18 16:28:29 UTC

That tweet is from a parody account.

2018-09-18 16:29:00 UTC

the Ford one?

2018-09-18 16:29:19 UTC

yep

2018-09-18 16:33:48 UTC

im suprized not to see philip defranco or jontron. guardian didint really do their research

2018-09-18 16:38:19 UTC

Hmm you are right. Scott Adams needs to do more colabs tho

2018-09-18 16:38:32 UTC

Pewds isn't on there?

2018-09-18 16:41:16 UTC

@Arch-Fiend lol and @Timcast is in the center of that network <:TimThink:482277772497125378> ๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-09-18 16:41:32 UTC

"rightwing influencer Stefan Molyneux, who openly promotes scientific racism"

Scientific racism?

2018-09-18 16:41:58 UTC

Racism backed by science. Well at least they are openly anti-science.

2018-09-18 16:43:53 UTC

"ย If a user is caught sending abusive Super Chats, the revenue received will be donated to charity instead of being split between YouTube and the channelโ€™s creator"

So they punish the creator for what the users are saying.... So basically they steal the superchats from creators who could be being harassed?

2018-09-18 16:43:59 UTC

That's hilarious

2018-09-18 16:44:15 UTC

wasn't guardian one of the biggest news sites pro-snowden when he leaked the documents ? now, they're pro-censorship... what a turn

2018-09-18 16:44:58 UTC

Rules for thee, not for me

2018-09-18 16:45:40 UTC

where did you see that @Grenade123 is that part of the new EU laws?

2018-09-18 16:45:54 UTC

Seriously?

2018-09-18 16:46:02 UTC

Oh, no

2018-09-18 16:46:07 UTC

It's in the article up there

2018-09-18 16:46:11 UTC

From the guardian

2018-09-18 16:46:15 UTC

oh gotcha, my bad, i didnt read up

2018-09-18 16:46:42 UTC

ill stfu and go back to my corner lol

2018-09-18 16:47:40 UTC

"โ€œYouTube is an open platform where anyone can choose to post videos to a global audience, subject to our community guidelines, which we enforce rigorously,โ€ said a YouTube spokeswoman.

The company has tightened the rules for which channels have access to monetisation features and deployed machine learning technology to identify hate speech in comment features, the spokeswoman added. If a user is caught sending abusive Super Chats, the revenue received will be donated to charity instead of being split between YouTube and the channelโ€™s creator."

2018-09-18 16:48:10 UTC

There has to be a potential lawsuit there somehow. It's steal money from the commentor and creator

2018-09-18 16:48:13 UTC

ya that is pretty messed up

2018-09-18 16:48:24 UTC

i have to agree, if i donate money to one person

2018-09-18 16:48:30 UTC

and another group comes along and takes it

2018-09-18 16:48:40 UTC

thats thievery of the highest order

2018-09-18 16:48:51 UTC

I know they can claim it's in the TOS, but o don't think this is enforceable.

2018-09-18 16:49:09 UTC

the problem is superchat payments are small ammounts

2018-09-18 16:49:20 UTC

It should instead just remove the superchat and canel the payment processing.

2018-09-18 16:49:23 UTC

going to court over them will be diffiicult

2018-09-18 16:49:36 UTC

ya i agree with that

2018-09-18 16:49:42 UTC

it would have to be class action, for sure.

2018-09-18 16:49:53 UTC

if you arent going to pay the creator, then refund the money paid

2018-09-18 16:50:24 UTC

like you said, the ToS probably obsolves them of anything

2018-09-18 16:50:55 UTC

They can claim that, but I don't think this works here.

2018-09-18 16:51:35 UTC

ya, i think it will be similar to people that get hurt in places with warning signs. sure that sign is there, but you can still sue

2018-09-18 16:52:03 UTC

pretty sure TOS stops being enforcable when you start stealing things actually worth money.

2018-09-18 16:52:05 UTC

we would need someone to reach almost 1k in a superchat

2018-09-18 16:52:12 UTC

or be missing 1k to get into court

2018-09-18 16:52:30 UTC

small claims wouldnt be worth the time

2018-09-18 16:52:32 UTC

Like steams tos works only because you don't actually pay for the game, you pay for rights to play it.

2018-09-18 16:52:47 UTC

ya

2018-09-18 16:52:52 UTC

same with EULAs. unenforcabke.but going to court is too mjcb troubke for avergae joe/jane

2018-09-18 16:52:54 UTC

access to the service

2018-09-18 16:53:19 UTC

which is what youtube will claim as well, we give out free access to the service

2018-09-18 16:53:23 UTC

we can do what we want

2018-09-18 16:53:29 UTC

You need to go to court for principle, not money.

2018-09-18 16:54:21 UTC

ya i get that, but there is a monitary ammount before it gets taken seriously, if someone could claim other things other than the loss of money then other stipulations can be added

2018-09-18 16:54:31 UTC

Given the right of crowd funding for some legal stuff, like Danks stuff, there is a possibility for a few people to go to bat on behalf of us, the viewer. And the person getting their money stolen.

2018-09-18 16:57:13 UTC

ya that is what it would really take

2018-09-18 16:58:00 UTC

given how the left tried to eat pewdepie, i wonder if hey will try to gank his cash, but i think he is still mostly on their good side

2018-09-18 16:58:35 UTC

honestly any lawsuit would need someone with his clout to even get noticed

2018-09-18 16:58:59 UTC

(hate saying that he has clout, but 65million subs is a hell of a number)

2018-09-18 17:00:13 UTC

Pewds isn't on their good side, YouTube just knows they can't piss him off so much he jumped to bitchute and helps make them popular

2018-09-18 17:00:29 UTC

ya that is a good point

2018-09-18 17:01:29 UTC

does he do live streams on youtube? im betting he is a twitch guy right? (i dont keep up with too many live streams)

2018-09-18 17:02:11 UTC

You don't need his clout, just the money. So, take a few of these people floating around, like Sargon, Tim, dank, bearing, etc. And get all their supporters to donate to the cause.

2018-09-18 17:03:11 UTC

I wonder if they could refund some of the money easily if the won. Like make the goal to get YouTube to change their practice, set a precedent, and cover the legal fees.

2018-09-18 17:04:11 UTC

Imagine the standard that could set, sueing the large cooperations to change their practices and get you donation refunded out of the corporations pockets

2018-09-18 17:04:29 UTC

We'd no longer need the government to police things like twitter

2018-09-18 17:04:38 UTC

suing people doesnt really work like that

2018-09-18 17:04:50 UTC

you dont sue someone then get to dictate things to them

2018-09-18 17:05:00 UTC

you sue them get money and hope that changes them

2018-09-18 17:05:07 UTC

but they dont have to change

2018-09-18 17:05:14 UTC

and likely will just pay to have the thing go away

2018-09-18 17:05:14 UTC

Depends on what the judge decides really

2018-09-18 17:05:25 UTC

not in civil court

2018-09-18 17:05:59 UTC

the judge can say stuff but there is not really any guarentee in civil court that anything will change legally speaking

2018-09-18 17:06:17 UTC

True, there is not guarantee they will change, but why keep doing something people can successful keep sueing you for?

2018-09-18 17:06:33 UTC

payout vs profit

2018-09-18 17:06:36 UTC

Particularly something as simple to change as "just refund the money"

2018-09-18 17:06:40 UTC

if the payout is lower than the profit

2018-09-18 17:06:47 UTC

they will pay out till they are blue in the face

2018-09-18 17:06:56 UTC

just look at the auto industry

2018-09-18 17:07:02 UTC

they literally made that their jobs

2018-09-18 17:07:03 UTC

lol

2018-09-18 17:07:12 UTC

They are not profiting from this tho, according to the YouTube rep, YouTube donates all the money.

2018-09-18 17:07:27 UTC

They don't keep their share then donate the creators

2018-09-18 17:07:30 UTC

they will still make money off the stream

2018-09-18 17:07:34 UTC

I mean, I guess they get tax right off.

2018-09-18 17:07:38 UTC

they will just donate the donations

2018-09-18 17:07:43 UTC

the advertisement money

2018-09-18 17:07:45 UTC

will be kept

2018-09-18 17:07:53 UTC

if that is higher than the payout

2018-09-18 17:07:57 UTC

they wont budge

2018-09-18 17:08:08 UTC

Yeah, but that's not what you are suing for, it's the superchats.

2018-09-18 17:08:26 UTC

right but yahoo only looks at the profit they make in this case

2018-09-18 17:08:35 UTC

they dont care about the 20 bucks from a superchat

2018-09-18 17:08:59 UTC

you got to look at it from a corporate standpoint. if they take, say 200 bucks out of superchats

2018-09-18 17:09:01 UTC

No, but a lawsuit that can keep happening costing them money over and over for a donated 20 bucks?

2018-09-18 17:09:02 UTC

gets sued

2018-09-18 17:09:06 UTC

and has to pay out 5k

2018-09-18 17:09:11 UTC

just as an example

2018-09-18 17:09:22 UTC

but they made 10k just from all the views in the supershat

2018-09-18 17:09:30 UTC

guess what keeps happening

2018-09-18 17:09:40 UTC

all of those numbers i just pulled out of my ass as example

2018-09-18 17:10:04 UTC

We need to know how the superchats work.

2018-09-18 17:10:12 UTC

i bet the youttube law team wouldnt even break a sweat on that lawsuit

2018-09-18 17:11:04 UTC

No, but this is why I asked about getting a refund

2018-09-18 17:11:10 UTC

oh we are geting sued over superchats? cool, i needed something to whipe my ass with

2018-09-18 17:11:16 UTC

i promise you is what they would say lol

2018-09-18 17:11:49 UTC

Imagine if your team wins, and gets the costs of legal covered. And you can refund your supporters.

2018-09-18 17:11:49 UTC

ya i dont know how or if they do refunds

2018-09-18 17:12:00 UTC

ya now that would be cool

2018-09-18 17:12:05 UTC

if it played out like that

2018-09-18 17:12:33 UTC

it also depends on what youtube decides to throw behind the lawsuit

2018-09-18 17:12:42 UTC

if they see it as a precidence setter

2018-09-18 17:12:51 UTC

then they will get their entire machine against you

2018-09-18 17:12:54 UTC

lawyers

2018-09-18 17:12:55 UTC

news

2018-09-18 17:12:57 UTC

everything

2018-09-18 17:13:08 UTC

so the case is stacked against you before you get in the door

2018-09-18 17:13:52 UTC

the news would go something like this "racists try to reverse youtube orders"

2018-09-18 17:14:02 UTC

"this is how you should be upset by this"

2018-09-18 17:14:13 UTC

and get the rage mob back in full swing

2018-09-18 17:14:31 UTC

i would bet they would line up protests over the case too

2018-09-18 17:14:53 UTC

Ah, but you know what the counter news to that is? "Youtube stealing money from maginalized makers because harasser used racist words in superchats"

2018-09-18 17:15:27 UTC

would get burried like every other story against the narrative does

2018-09-18 17:15:39 UTC

i would like to see the case happen

2018-09-18 17:15:48 UTC

it just has a very thin chance of doing anything

2018-09-18 17:16:06 UTC

Well you know, it's easy to make that the narrative. Just tell warsky followers to go say mean words on some trans person stream

2018-09-18 17:16:17 UTC

Lmao

2018-09-18 17:16:33 UTC

as much as i hate to say it, i think you are right, it would take a stream like that before it worked

2018-09-18 17:16:34 UTC

"hey, go support some trans creator with mean words"

2018-09-18 17:16:56 UTC

as long as its just the "intellectual dark web" people they will just label it racist and move on

2018-09-18 17:17:15 UTC

slap a swastika on the court case and throw the mob at them

2018-09-18 17:17:34 UTC

Here is the thing, they have to prove this is not a police of theft.

2018-09-18 17:17:44 UTC

they really dont though

2018-09-18 17:17:52 UTC

that ToS helps them with that

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