ya i agree with that

it would have to be class action, for sure.

if you arent going to pay the creator, then refund the money paid

like you said, the ToS probably obsolves them of anything

They can claim that, but I don't think this works here.

ya, i think it will be similar to people that get hurt in places with warning signs. sure that sign is there, but you can still sue

pretty sure TOS stops being enforcable when you start stealing things actually worth money.

we would need someone to reach almost 1k in a superchat

or be missing 1k to get into court

small claims wouldnt be worth the time

Like steams tos works only because you don't actually pay for the game, you pay for rights to play it.

ya

same with EULAs. unenforcabke.but going to court is too mjcb troubke for avergae joe/jane

access to the service

which is what youtube will claim as well, we give out free access to the service

we can do what we want

You need to go to court for principle, not money.

ya i get that, but there is a monitary ammount before it gets taken seriously, if someone could claim other things other than the loss of money then other stipulations can be added

Given the right of crowd funding for some legal stuff, like Danks stuff, there is a possibility for a few people to go to bat on behalf of us, the viewer. And the person getting their money stolen.

ya that is what it would really take

given how the left tried to eat pewdepie, i wonder if hey will try to gank his cash, but i think he is still mostly on their good side

honestly any lawsuit would need someone with his clout to even get noticed

(hate saying that he has clout, but 65million subs is a hell of a number)

Pewds isn't on their good side, YouTube just knows they can't piss him off so much he jumped to bitchute and helps make them popular

ya that is a good point

does he do live streams on youtube? im betting he is a twitch guy right? (i dont keep up with too many live streams)

You don't need his clout, just the money. So, take a few of these people floating around, like Sargon, Tim, dank, bearing, etc. And get all their supporters to donate to the cause.

I wonder if they could refund some of the money easily if the won. Like make the goal to get YouTube to change their practice, set a precedent, and cover the legal fees.

Imagine the standard that could set, sueing the large cooperations to change their practices and get you donation refunded out of the corporations pockets

We'd no longer need the government to police things like twitter

suing people doesnt really work like that

you dont sue someone then get to dictate things to them

you sue them get money and hope that changes them

but they dont have to change

and likely will just pay to have the thing go away

Depends on what the judge decides really

not in civil court

the judge can say stuff but there is not really any guarentee in civil court that anything will change legally speaking

True, there is not guarantee they will change, but why keep doing something people can successful keep sueing you for?

payout vs profit

Particularly something as simple to change as "just refund the money"