^

might be an interesting confrontation between sanctuary cities and federal law enforcement.

personally i'd love to see some of these sanctuary city asshats brought up on seditious conspiracy charges.

the constitution clearly states that the congress has the power to set uniform laws regarding naturalization

@JDM_WAAAT @Timcast Here is the story I mentioned in the Superchat earlier. Please just give me your opinion. We are doing a second round on it next Wednesday on the Hard News Network but please let me know if you're interested. I have 2-4 witnesses depending on availability to confirm everything I'm talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdynfibjB9o

You should connect your youtube to your discord account

I'll check it out

@JDM_WAAAT this was originally on the Hard News Network and then my colleague @Canucklehead mirrored it back. You can see both me and JMSO in the video. He's the Canadian dude.

@Starscream92 (ChefLeopard) Watching the video now. Are you the guy in the hat and glasses?

Yes.

@RyeNorth I also have a link to @Canucklehead 's undercover call to John Mattes, and a link to his tweet of the fake article he wrote about him.

I'm not in a position of any sort of journalistic power other than a specific region of Texas in the music industry, and that's even debatable. I'm just evaluating presentation. 😛

lol. r u saying i look like a douche? u can be honest

Like the Dearth Vader voice?

*Darth

Basically this and a voice mod to protect your identity. 😛

Lol, i don't always wear the hat and glasses. sometimes it's better for the lighting.

I'm just being an ass since it was invited. 😛

Abolish Ice caps not ICE. Then the flattards will see the ice doesn't hold the water on earth

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/canada-yazidi-refugee-sees-her-isis-slave-master-on-ontario-bus-is-told-dont-tell-anyone

She better cover dem ankles the fuck back up

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-social-credit

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/17/compulsory-eu-wide-biometric-id-announced-commission/

Well that wasn't inevitable...

"The European Commission has announced plans to make biometric ID cards compulsory across the bloc which will allow authorities to bar “terrorists and criminals” from accessing money and other services." why do i get the feel that terrorist and criminals will be the "free speech extremists"and not the grooming gangs and shit?

Many countries are doing it though. It does simplify a lot of bureaucratic systems, but it also has huge privacy implications.

@LOLTRON I dont see how biometric IDs supposed to allow to bar “terrorists and criminals” from accessing money and other services."

technically ther capable of that already

Whats worse if those bastards start to copy chinese social credit system

There are ton of cameras in china

if you jaywalk even on an empty street, system can automatically detect your face and impact your socual credit and put out a fine

thers such a thing as way to much controll

in b4 emotionally-charged "think of the children" arguments to sell 1984-style surveillance

@vlnc.co think of the children thats why in UK u will now have to buy wanking pass from the goverment if u want to accses porn.

@Arhiwolf i thought you were trolling at first. unbelievable 🤦 https://www.cnet.com/news/uk-adults-could-buy-porn-passes-to-view-adult-content-online/

Yeh, Bearing did a great video on this...

thanks for the heads-up; i'll have to check it out. and wow knives too?

Yeh the knives thing.. That's just crazy.. I saw a video the other day of the Mayor of London defending it as the problem that needed to be solved to stop gang crime.. The audience wasn't having a bar of it.

Knives arent the problem, lack of law enforcement and accountability is the problem.

Quote from the Mayor of London on this topic: "No excuses: there is never a reason to carry a knife. Anyone who does will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law. "

Meanwhile in Texas, you can open carry a katana.

Not that anyone sane would because katanas are shit

but glorious nippon steel

I generally keep a rather large survival knife on me.

The looks I get when someone asks if I've got a lighter, and I open the pommel of the knife and pull out a match. 😛

Probably not a lot of mass Kanata-ings though

Most Texans aren't Bruce Lee, I imagine...

I actually do train with a bokken and a bo staff. 😛

^ ^ ^ kind of eccentric.

survival/utility knives are handy tools for sure. i bring a freshly sharpened 250mm chef knife over to my buddys house to meal prep every other week. between this and the uk judge who wanted to make everyone file their knife points down, i think people are going to hurt themselves trying to cut stuff with objects that are not designed to be used as knives

Oh absolutely.

Nothing more dangerous about a knife than dullness.

Knife's liable to slip if you have to apply downward pressure

Most chefs hone their blades daily.

For a damn good reason, too.

ive started to do daily honing at home too. leather strop + green compound; keeps the knives sharp enough to never slip on papery onion skins. added benefit of keeping them away from the stones for longer

I always have my Victorinox knife with me. It's the most useful thing I own.

it gets used on a daily basis.

^ so handy

nice heat treat on the victorinox blades. fine grain structure despite being stainless

https://i.redd.it/wnunz15c7wq01.jpg

https://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Uk+comp+literally+a+stick_3dd932_5621719.jpg

damn. this has to be satire...?

So the police raided a Tradie then?

#ProtectandServe

@vlnc.co UK police says it dosent have resources to fight crime but thank got they can go araund remove dangerous sticks

I feel sorry for the constabulary though, they must look at these policies coming down from on high and must think `Are you being serious, mate?`

#priorities

I mean...

One of two outcomes with these things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch_NuUgvb7s "You can take my stick from my cold dead hands..."

Either these guys are so enthralled with their job that they confiscate sticks and think it's glorious work

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/met-police-spending-cuts-400-million-funding-london-crimes-not-investigated-burglary-assault-a8002746.html

Or they are taking pictures of that shit sarcastically

I think it's stranger than fiction, It's almost certainly true...

noup

tots serious

Think so?

You don't think they might be bound to the law, and taking ridiculous pictures might be their quiet rebellion?

noup

interesting. malicious compliance?

theyr totaly brain dead

I'm starting to think they might.

They can't straight up say "this is ridiculous"

but I find it hard to believe that they're not finding any knives whatsoever in those pictures.

Why isn't intent a thing, when it comes to those searches and seizures? Is that factored in?

https://i.redditmedia.com/DuXyjiNTprH9arFEt1ahwOxJ3T-i0VEa2l1v_2N02B4.jpg?w=432&s=035f009877712c87c3d180d9e7b18880

https://pics.me.me/hackney-police-mpshackney-follow-weapons-found-today-in-pemburyweaponsweep-31589079.png

Uhh.. Who's getting stabbed with a bike tire?

lolwut

http://2static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Me+too+i+m+glad+deadly+weapons+like+assault+bicycle+wheels+_dc628efdc77069954d5ae1db0cc23b39.jpg

Is there a Speight of bike tire stabbings I haven't seen?

aperently somone did

ROFLMAO

i thought the wood file in the previous picture was bad, but bicycle wheel takes the cake

Not by force, obviously..

centrifugal force

Is that green thing a jerry can?

See, THIS is the sort of shit I'm talking about!

You can cut the plastic into a knife shape.

Centripetal?

Jeeze, a bike wheel

those spokes can be sharpened.

That's, what, like 26 knives?

They basically stopped a crime spree...

Each one of those spokes is long enough to skewer two victims at once.

That's 52 lives saved!

What a monster!

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/03/british-man-arrested-for-wielding-potato-peeler/

A British man was arrested Saturday after he was found walking the streets of Dunfermline, Scotland, with a potato peeler.

monster

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/350/236/9fd.jpg

@LOLTRON did u know u cant buy eggs and spoons in uk in some places unless u can prove your not under age

jfc. I thought blades under 3 inches were okay under the current laws though? potato peelers aren't that long. i think he should a-peel

egg thing was apperently a one time thing foe halloween tho google the spoon thing and be amazed

Britain's knife laws are basically youtube community guidelines.

This is what I've learned today.

I've got to go to bed.

^ great analogy. egg and spoon thing is just ridiculous, speechless

gn

@Arhiwolf Wow. Just when you think the tard cannot get more tard...

@vlnc.co That's a paddlin'...

i find it funny that the first article i saw people talking about since i went to sleep was about the EU so its like "good thing for the brexit" and then the rest of the night was showing all the shit that the uk government is doing incompatently

That's not really a reason against Brexit. That's a reason against regressive politicians.

At least with Brexit, there's just one government screwing things up. Without Brexit, the EU and Germany can bring their incompetence to bear as well.

So by extension, Brexit means UK is reducing incompetence by 2/3.

yeah i just realized the EU is also asking the uk to adopt biometric

They likely will. Most western countries are...

does the united states have biometric? wouldent be surprised that was added to us without anyone ever telling us

also only 10 countrys in the eu had biometric in may

and half of them were eastern european

If you've ever had a DNA test, for any reason, it's almost certain they have your biometrics.

poland, austria, slovenia, lithuania, latvia

though i wonder if perhaps the problem with biometrics isint that it is used but rather how many things idenification is required for. identification has always been a thing throughout history, if you go somewhere the authority of anywhere you go wants to know who you are specificly so you wont cause any trouble, the evolution of identification has basicly been making sure that your who you say you are or so that no one is saying they are you besides you. in reality you have no reason to say you arnt who you are other than when your actively working against the authority in some reguard. however if you have an omnipressent requirement to display identification before making any action it becomes tracking and monitoring. if today your location is known because your identity is used 5 times then tomarrow its known because you had to use it 50 times, your life is tracked substantially more. the security of this identification has nothing to do with how often its demanded though.

Case in point is having to identify yourself to watch porn in the UK.

yerp

The other, more concerning issue is there is no way that data is *not* going to get misused, stolen and exploited.

it conserns you that data will in no way get misused, stolen, and exploited?

whoops. Fixed that.

`"Damnit, why is my massive database of 25million citizens not being hacked yet!"`

If the Australian Census taught us anything, it's that the government shouldn't be responsible for protecting anything big-data related.

its actually a fundomental job of the government to insure identification and regulating traffic within its borders though

i think the idea of biometrics is that its harder to steal that information rather than just being a number your assigned at birth

its tied to your dna

Is it?

I don't agree it is.

steal my dna

Sorry, no i mean I don't agree thats a fundamental job of the government...

The DNA record they collect is assigned to a number. Your Social Sec number.

if the government is to have a job it sure is

Along with a metrick fuck-tonne of other metadata

@Timcast please keep an eye on that crowd pac story censoring republicans from their platform id really like to know what happens with what the are doing about the election meddling argument that that girl is saying

its one of the oldest jobs government has had

like prostitution

Lawyer and plumbers are also old jobs

It may be something they do, but I don't agree its a responsibility of the government..

A government's job is to protect its border, and defend citizens rights to property.

That's fundamentally it

Everything else is scope creep.

@LOLTRON agree

And i am coming from a position where I am okay with government delivering critical services like energy, health care and infrastructure... But i don't think the government should be unilaterally tracking its citizens.

what good can come from that?

you cant protect the border without identification

unless you have a wall of fire around it

but then that keeps your own people inside

doesent really respect their freedom

I'm not saying the government doesn't need to have a record of its citizens. But i do think they don't need biometrics

biometrics just allows them to track citizens more easily

I don't think tracking citizens should be somethign that can be done easily

it should be hard, and expensive

explain how its easier for a government to track with biometrics

Biometrics includes facial recognition data.

DNA is but one element of biometrics

I have a friend who works for a multinational that sells facial recognition tech to government. They are throwing millions at this tech...

They want it everywhere.

see thats the thing "they want it everywhere" is the tracking part

It's not enough to say that "I haven't done anything wrong, so i have nothign to fear...", knowing you are under constant surveillance can heavily influence behaviour of people who haven't done anything wrong.

if facial recognition was only used during the same instances where normal identification is also used then it would be no more effective at tracking people than normal identification

howeveri f you increase the demand for identification, essentaully putting more activitys behind a identification wall, it doesent matter what kind of id is used

All that's required to do facial recognition is a photo.

humans actually recognize faces better than machines do

I'm not sure that's true any more

i have evidence

Citation required

"I haven't done anything wrong, so i have nothing to fear..."

given the number of laws, its a pretty good chance you HAVE done something wrong.

hell, even most people technically speed all day

^ thats probably true

but that doesn't justify mass surveillance.

security vs convenience vs privacy is a battle that rages all the time and there is no right answer

http://www.superrecognisers.com/

The company my mate works for, the system they deploy has >98% accuracy.

with 1 photo as a source

Granted, people have been matching faces for thousands of years, and are hard wired to do it...

A significant portion of the brain is dedicated to it

That doesn't make the risks of biometric tracking any less concerning

how do you prevent identity theft while not allowing the government or even companies from being able to track you?

Why would the government keeping your data discourage identity theft?

what keeps them from demanding a company to hand it over?

The government demanding?

The more points of data to confirm your identity, the harder it is to fake. The more interconnected that data is from all entry and exits points, the harder it is to spoof.

if a company can have access to the needed information, why wouldn't the government?

When a govvernment entity verifys you... What do they ask for?

Your name, Your Address, Your birthday

Once they have that info... they have ALL of your metadata

Those elements are trivial to find

yes, all my metadata, including anything someone not me did using my name.

but this is my point, security vs convenience vs privacy

all of those points are at odds with one another

everyone wants all of them

There is a balance to be struck, for sure..

But i don't think giving the government access to ALL metadata is a balance.

that balance changes from person to person, from day to day

The balance isn't reasonable. Not any more

Mostly because the vast majority of people don't understand just how much data is being collected on them

If they actually understood the scope of the machine at work, they would be horrified.

if you have a welfare state, which you pay for with your taxes, wouldn't it be in your best interest for the government to make sure the people receiving welfare are actually in need of welfare?

I didn't say they shouldn't have "some" data.. I just think they currently have too much.. And we certainly shouldn't be volunteering more.

The government doesn't need more metadata to determine that.

Your income statement is enough to calculate that.

In this case, welfare would naturally become a "security over freedom" sort of deal, wouldn't it?

I'm not necessarily in favour of that sort of welfare

Neither am I in most circumstances.

i support a safety net

There is the debate over security vs freedom... I don;t necessarily agree that its a zero sum game

the thing is computers recognize faces well, but only 2 dimensionally. they dont recognizes faces in motion, different angles, behavure and disguises confuse them. super recognizers can actually use very little shown of a human face at multiple angles to recongize them. face scanning identification where your required to hold your face in a certain position will detect faces neer perfectly thats for sure, thats where you get your 98% effeciency from, you dont get it from tracking people with the millions of low tech ctv cameras throughout the uk

I think in the case of a natural disaster, social welfare is justifiable. Also in the case of a service shutdown of some sort.

@Arch-Fiend that's not true any more.. Ive watched facial recognition systems track 30 people across an open square, and identify each of the people in the scene in real time, and the face doesn't even need to be facing the camera.

the tech is both amazing, and terrifying

do they track the faces or do they identify the faces?

because face tracking and facial reognization are different things

face tracking can pick up faces that arnt even real

both

Right. Also, keep in mind we do not even need facial recognition anymore. Do you realize most people store their fingerprints in their phones now? People are handing over PII to tech firms willingly with known ties to government agencies and sign ToS's that justify the distribution of that data.

That's partially true

at what point is catching a murder no longer important enough?

your fingerprint isn't stored on your phone

The hash of your fingerprint is..

It's non-reversible.

You carry around a tracking/surveillance device in your pocket/purse.

Yes, you do.

Well, we SAY it's non-reversible. I don't know if it is or isn't at this point.

It has to be interpreted somehow, so if it can be translated in one way, it can be in the other as well.

you can't use GPS without requesting and receiving a GPS signal to your device, so you can't complain when someone is able to find your device to send that signal too.

It's a fundamental part of cryptography

Non-reversibility

You can generate the hash from the fingerprint, but you cant generate the fingerprint fromt he hash

Oh, I agree with you, I just don't trust government or tech firms not to lie about said non-reversibility.

@Grenade123 You're right about that.

Oh neither do i. Fortunately the math behind it doesn't lie

That what makes cryptology such an important asset to protect