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and stick to the facts as much as possible (which to be fair I think they do most of the time)
is ti weird that the same people who go around smashing windows, attacking people, and starting fires are the same people who advocate safe spaces?
i imagine those kinda people dont really care about any cause.. and just want to set the world on fire and watch it burn
specially if the rest of the group likes to wear masks and all wear the same black clothing
great excuse to get away with some teenage smashing stuff
@wacka since when has anything bias ever taken to moving towards unbias when being called out? they usually double down.
@Timcast maybe they are trying to create greater demand for them because they realize no one really wants their safe spaces?
Im not sure about that... the BBC has been called bias ...pretty much since its inception
i mean, its state owned news. how can it not be bias?
at least a little
well its complicated but its seperate from the people in power... its not under parliaments mandate... like the bank of england
but yeah ... Im sure GCHQ sometimes has a word... it would not surprise me
@Timcast
They want safe spaces, for THEM, not the "out" group, aka
"We want to be able to beat people and destroy others stuff, but have our stuff protected by authority"
if its funded by taxes, then its under control of whoever controls the taxes. and who controls the taxes?
government, and government will cater to anyone what offers them a vote
its a rackety
racket
smash and destroy
then scream that they need safe spaces and use themselves as proof
yeah but its different in the UK .. even though one party is "in control" .. the government is also made up of the opposition
they are technically correct about right wing speech inciting violence... their violence
right wing speakers incite the far left to violence
Extremism 101, if you're not with us, you're against us
anyone going to be watching #Farmlands when its out? Im a bit sceptical of LS
@wacka which means both sides can use the threat of removing funding as leverage. and even the opposition is still government. It may work hard, or once worked hard, to limit its bias, but its still under control of a relatively small amount of people who may not even make up its "customers"
@Timcast Its part of a theme with the extremist left. Beating you over the head while crying out you are attacking them.
The extreme/far left doesn't exactly understand what they want themselves though,
They want to punch nazi's, and have safe spaces
They want to take guns away from people and have only the government have guns, the same government they find fascist/tyrannical
They want the rich people to pay everything, most of them are rich/middle class and don't want to chip in their own money
some mentally unstable people do the same: they attack you and when you defend yourself, they start playing the victim
they don't just "play" victim, they see themselves as a genuine victim
yes
well put
i didnt hear much about this student march which apprently affected 40 states, students walking out of schools in protest
because when they attack someone, they see it as "fighting tyranny"
when they get a response, its the "tyranny oppressing them"
I didn't hear anything about a student march at all, cuz i'm not from the states
something about protecting the 2nd amendment (so Im not surprised it wasnt covered much)
all i hear about America over here is how Trump is a naisie
yeah the twitter and some media went into a bit of meltdown when they announced he was coming here in july
you expect the msm to give a 2nd amendment march airtime like they do gun control?
that would break the narrative that all young people support gun control!
I dont expect it.. but they should
they should, but they don't
you'd think it would sell more headlines
it would be a shocker to their audience
maybe even panic them
and their not target audience would be suprised too
and read
If they were smart, the MSM would report it, to spark the "left"s fear of people doing that, making them protest more, aka more news to cover in the long run
if the MSM was smart, they probably wouldn't be losing out to independent media
companies who become ridged do not last the test of time
Well i think its a market strategy,
the MSM took one polarized side, in order to get a guaranteed audience that just want to be told things they approve of
so they'll tune in every day, and MSM gets a guaranteed audience to appease their share-holders
but they bet on the wrong horse with the 2016 presidency, and now their grip on the reality they told for years is cracking between their fingers
and they don't want to come out and admit it, cuz then they'd lose their core audience base, and become uncertain, which leads to less ensurance for share-holders etc
meaning they're just slowly and surely going to bleed out
could just be biased journalists
if you start with 2 outlets.. one slightly left leaning.. then a left leaning journalist will go for that outlet - eventually it will get more and more biased naturally
Could be the audience.
Be left wing, left wingers come watch you
So you keep saying left wing, cause if you say anything right wing, they leave
So you hire left wingers to say left wing stuff.
same with audiance .. if one is slightly left leaning, a left leaning person will choose it.. but I think its down to the journalists that make the bias grow
Education really.
ANd I mean the public.
You cant expect anyone to voluntarily cut off any further profits they could have potentially earned.
it will be interesting to see how knife media or whateer its called grows
but tbh the more centrist something is, it will be called right wing and left wing
BBC is often called both
thats cuz BBC is government funded, so they are a mouthpiece of whatever political affiliation the government is
the left is always accusing it of right wing bias... and the right even insinuate that its red colouring favours the labour party
funny thing is they're both right this time
Skeptical buch innit?
since the current "conservative" government in britain, is run by a self proclaimed feminist
the current government is centre right wing
#freedankula
but like I said earlier.. less of the half the gov is made up of that party
Feminist, or closet egalitarian?
if i recall correctly, wage-gap prime minister
I would say may is a last generation feminist
not like jesse philips who is an MP for labour
but you see, even a left leading news site stands to gain from reporting on the event. They seem perfectly fine to be tabloid journalists when it comes to their side, all they need to do is find something to use to smear the kids organizing the event, or just link the event to the alt right, and BAM, their view base is spreading shit like crazy in fear
I guess its less about business to the people writing the articles... you would think someone would have a word from higher up
The thing is, I am always under the assumption people operated on greed.
But what Tim says about these journos create the opposite but affirm it as well
yeah but greed for what? greed for themselves? greed for their employers outlet? greed for fame? greed for cash?
Journos who take jobs at a net loss. Write shitty clickbait.
So theres the activism, and they know it gets them clicks.
Problem is, now its a race to see who can write the msot outrageous shit.
And most of them dont want to innovate or change.
I am skeptical of whether they actually believe their own crap or not.
yeah but tabloids have existed for decades... thats not really something new
Except, youd expect their journos to be paid better and arnt uni grads
hang on .. lemme find this prediction from Carl Sagan its really good...
ah.. cant post images... er... lemme see if I can get a link..
We arnt we all guilty?
Twitter, reddit
Id say few can keep concentrated on one thing these days.
Too many distractions and I find it really hard to break the cycle
I think that one line "unable to distinguish between what feels good and whats true"... was bang on
nah, people are perfectly able to distinguish,
They just rather be "good" than "just and true"
nothing new I know... but...meh
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