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!agree

2018-07-02 11:09:03 UTC [Subverse #new-member-alert]  

2018-07-02 11:09:40 UTC [Subverse #bot-commands]  

!agree

2018-07-02 12:58:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

There's a lot of economic reasons why residential zones are limited. As zones get bigger, the cost of maintenance and support increases proportionally. Roads, parks, infrastructure, sewage, water etc...

2018-07-02 12:58:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Urban camouflage.

2018-07-02 13:13:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

```The bottom line is that running a high immigration program requires massive investment and costs a lot, and these costs are borne to a large extent by the incumbent population.

Therefore, if you want wages to be reduced, traffic congestion to get worse, to pay more for utilities and housing, and to see the environment get degraded, then continue with current mass immigration settings. But if you care about maintaining Australian living standards, then immigration needs to be slashed to sensible and sustainable levels.```

2018-07-02 13:17:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The UK could do with a revenue bump... The Anglosphere could do with a boost in numbers...

2018-07-02 13:22:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I thought dealing with the colonized people was the problem, generally?

2018-07-02 13:25:07 UTC [Sparta #general]  

True.

2018-07-02 13:27:39 UTC [Sparta #general]  

A lot of that is heavily correllated to the transition from a manufacturing to an intellectual developing economy.. Which is happening in most Western countries...

2018-07-02 13:33:36 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It depends if sending them back is actually inhumane, doesn't it?

2018-07-02 13:34:56 UTC [Sparta #general]  

If they're economic migrants, then it wouldn't be illegal to deport them, I would think.

2018-07-02 13:35:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I'd be curious to know what they are basing that on.

2018-07-02 13:35:56 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Morally, is it right to pull people on to a lifeboat, if pulling more people on will increase the change of capsizing the lifeboat?

2018-07-02 13:38:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

There is a clear dissonance there...

2018-07-02 13:38:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I was oppressed once... I got better...

2018-07-02 13:42:28 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Which human right? Half the problem is 'they' don't seem to understand what a 'Human Right' actually is...

2018-07-02 13:47:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

As long as it isn't an iPhone

2018-07-02 13:55:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

My 56k modem is a pile of molten plastic now...

2018-07-02 13:56:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Oh wow...

2018-07-02 13:56:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I... I can't with all the evens...

2018-07-02 13:57:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I swear these people need a flowchart that shows how these principles are interdependent.

2018-07-02 13:59:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Whoa! How does he throw his voice like that?

2018-07-02 14:00:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Sounds legit.

2018-07-02 14:01:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I look forward to ZeFrank's next video... "True facts about Hitler"... `Hitler is literally 50% of the entire population of the Earth; Because that is how Hitler do...`

2018-07-02 14:02:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Did you just assume my species?

2018-07-02 14:03:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

πŸ˜‚

2018-07-02 14:08:01 UTC [Subverse #general]  

"extensive state regulation" can also have significant drawbacks as well...

2018-07-02 14:08:29 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The balance between "limited government" and "extensive regulation" is an important one.

2018-07-02 14:09:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

There is a solution; it comes from where this mentality stems from...

2018-07-02 14:10:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Are there other types of identity politics there?

2018-07-02 14:12:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

We are pretty ethnically diverse where I come from; and for the most part, most people are just too chill to really worry about that sort of thing. It is slowly starting to take root in the left-biased media though which is slowly starting to stir up tensions...

2018-07-02 14:13:31 UTC [Subverse #general]  

The welfare state is a net good, but it only works with a strong capitalist foundation

2018-07-02 14:13:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The land downunder.

2018-07-02 14:15:21 UTC [Sparta #general]  

No, we're getting acquired.. It's differnt.

2018-07-02 14:15:33 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They don't want to live here; they just want our natural resources.

2018-07-02 14:16:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

πŸ™ƒ

2018-07-02 14:17:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

its underrated

2018-07-02 14:17:35 UTC [Sparta #general]  

In terms of condition; Australia is still significantly better off than the likes of the UK, Canada and the US.

2018-07-02 14:17:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

But we are moving down that path.

2018-07-02 14:18:57 UTC [Sparta #general]  

IMO the lack of constitutionally protected freedom of speech is problem #1.. China's growing influence is also a concern.

2018-07-02 14:20:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Has she made any definitive statements either way?

2018-07-02 14:21:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It's not really racist at all, amazingly..

2018-07-02 14:21:36 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Most people don't care about ethnicity, it's more about attitude and effort.

2018-07-02 14:21:45 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Its acceptable to dislike laziness..

2018-07-02 14:22:24 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I dislike his lack of 'Oxford Comma'

2018-07-02 14:22:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Oh it's certainly here...

2018-07-02 14:22:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

it's just not pervasive.

2018-07-02 14:23:36 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The attitude here is pretty much along the lines of "tow the line, participate in society, and you're golden"

2018-07-02 14:24:04 UTC [Subverse #general]  

^ this

2018-07-02 14:24:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

#OxfordComma

2018-07-02 14:30:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Right you are. Just needs a normal comma.

2018-07-02 14:30:55 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Why would Bernie dying be a catalyst for civil war?

2018-07-02 14:31:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

There's probably a significant percentage that do; but it sure isn't the majority.. And in that light, there's also what we call 'Bogans' which are the white equivalent. There's way more of them.

2018-07-02 14:32:11 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I don't know what the percentage split would be, but it'd sure make for an interesting infographic.

2018-07-02 14:32:47 UTC [Subverse #general]  

As far as I can see, the Dems don't have a candidate that could challenge Trump in 2020...

2018-07-02 14:33:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ah.

2018-07-02 14:34:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

They are a single issue party now.. They are Anti-Trump. That's it...

2018-07-02 14:35:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I'm not convinced Bernie has the political clout to hold the Dems together anyway...

2018-07-02 14:37:18 UTC [Subverse #general]  

It's entirely likely, and probably desirable, that the Dems split into a center-left and extreme left parties... When trump leaves in 2024, the same will happen to the Republicans.

2018-07-02 14:38:21 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oh boy; i hope they come up with a better name than that πŸ˜›

2018-07-02 14:39:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

LOL really? hahaha. that's gold.

2018-07-02 14:39:34 UTC [Subverse #general]  

no, they dont.

2018-07-02 14:40:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I'd believe it.

2018-07-02 14:40:45 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Sounds like our Greens party.

2018-07-02 14:42:44 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Explains why the Greens always do so poorly

!rank

2018-07-02 21:46:52 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

What can't be automated?

2018-07-02 21:47:03 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

Saying something can't be automated just suggests a failure of imagination.

2018-07-03 08:46:01 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Well that wasn't inevitable...

2018-07-03 08:48:20 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Many countries are doing it though. It does simplify a lot of bureaucratic systems, but it also has huge privacy implications.

2018-07-03 09:08:40 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeh, Bearing did a great video on this...

2018-07-03 09:11:47 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yeh the knives thing.. That's just crazy.. I saw a video the other day of the Mayor of London defending it as the problem that needed to be solved to stop gang crime.. The audience wasn't having a bar of it.

2018-07-03 09:12:20 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Knives arent the problem, lack of law enforcement and accountability is the problem.

2018-07-03 09:21:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Probably not a lot of mass Kanata-ings though

2018-07-03 09:22:07 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Most Texans aren't Bruce Lee, I imagine...

2018-07-03 09:33:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I always have my Victorinox knife with me. It's the most useful thing I own.

2018-07-03 09:34:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

it gets used on a daily basis.

2018-07-03 09:35:50 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

So the police raided a Tradie then?

2018-07-03 09:36:03 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

#ProtectandServe

2018-07-03 09:36:31 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I feel sorry for the constabulary though, they must look at these policies coming down from on high and must think `Are you being serious, mate?`

2018-07-03 09:37:20 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch_NuUgvb7s "You can take my stick from my cold dead hands..."

2018-07-03 09:37:47 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I think it's stranger than fiction, It's almost certainly true...

2018-07-03 09:41:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Why isn't intent a thing, when it comes to those searches and seizures? Is that factored in?

2018-07-03 09:42:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Uhh.. Who's getting stabbed with a bike tire?

2018-07-03 09:43:11 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Is there a Speight of bike tire stabbings I haven't seen?

2018-07-03 09:43:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

ROFLMAO

2018-07-03 09:45:16 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Not by force, obviously..

2018-07-03 09:46:15 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Centripetal?

2018-07-03 09:46:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

They basically stopped a crime spree...

2018-07-03 09:47:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

What a monster!

2018-07-03 09:48:43 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Might be in a muted channel?

2018-07-03 10:04:03 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ive muted most of the channels and just leave the ones i use.. Man i still can't keep up.

2018-07-03 10:04:13 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Boop Boop. Boop Boop. non-stop,.

2018-07-03 10:04:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Arhiwolf Wow. Just when you think the tard cannot get more tard...

2018-07-03 10:05:04 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@vlnc.co That's a paddlin'...

2018-07-03 11:23:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

That's so crazy it just might work!

2018-07-03 11:24:00 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Nah, i want notifications from some channels, and not others.

2018-07-03 11:24:51 UTC [Subverse #general]  

not too bad in this discord..

2018-07-03 11:24:57 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Sargons is a bit more challenging

2018-07-03 11:25:12 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Somehow, i've ended up with 2 sargon discords. I dont know which one is the legit one

2018-07-03 11:25:15 UTC [Subverse #general]  

lol

2018-07-03 11:27:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Bam!

2018-07-03 11:28:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That's not really a reason against Brexit. That's a reason against regressive politicians.

2018-07-03 11:29:50 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

At least with Brexit, there's just one government screwing things up. Without Brexit, the EU and Germany can bring their incompetence to bear as well.

2018-07-03 11:30:03 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

So by extension, Brexit means UK is reducing incompetence by 2/3.

2018-07-03 11:39:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

They likely will. Most western countries are...

2018-07-03 11:48:17 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

If you've ever had a DNA test, for any reason, it's almost certain they have your biometrics.

2018-07-03 11:59:25 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Case in point is having to identify yourself to watch porn in the UK.

2018-07-03 12:01:27 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The other, more concerning issue is there is no way that data is *not* going to get misused, stolen and exploited.

2018-07-03 12:01:53 UTC [Subverse #general]  

You're not the bost of me, Mee6.... <clicks link>

2018-07-03 12:01:56 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Oh i can't stay mad at you...

2018-07-03 12:02:46 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I wish teespring didnt charge me more for the shipping than it does for the shirt.

2018-07-03 12:08:38 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

whoops. Fixed that.

2018-07-03 12:09:11 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

`"Damnit, why is my massive database of 25million citizens not being hacked yet!"`

2018-07-03 12:13:10 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

If the Australian Census taught us anything, it's that the government shouldn't be responsible for protecting anything big-data related.

2018-07-03 12:25:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Is it?

2018-07-03 12:25:47 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I don't agree it is.

2018-07-03 12:28:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Sorry, no i mean I don't agree thats a fundamental job of the government...

2018-07-03 12:28:19 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The DNA record they collect is assigned to a number. Your Social Sec number.

2018-07-03 12:28:31 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Along with a metrick fuck-tonne of other metadata

2018-07-03 12:30:01 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It may be something they do, but I don't agree its a responsibility of the government..

2018-07-03 12:31:25 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

A government's job is to protect its border, and defend citizens rights to property.

2018-07-03 12:31:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That's fundamentally it

2018-07-03 12:31:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Everything else is scope creep.

2018-07-03 12:32:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

And i am coming from a position where I am okay with government delivering critical services like energy, health care and infrastructure... But i don't think the government should be unilaterally tracking its citizens.

2018-07-03 12:32:49 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

what good can come from that?

2018-07-03 12:36:48 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm not saying the government doesn't need to have a record of its citizens. But i do think they don't need biometrics

2018-07-03 12:36:57 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

biometrics just allows them to track citizens more easily

2018-07-03 12:37:06 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I don't think tracking citizens should be somethign that can be done easily

2018-07-03 12:37:10 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

it should be hard, and expensive

2018-07-03 12:39:13 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Biometrics includes facial recognition data.

2018-07-03 12:39:20 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

DNA is but one element of biometrics

2018-07-03 12:40:01 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I have a friend who works for a multinational that sells facial recognition tech to government. They are throwing millions at this tech...

2018-07-03 12:40:05 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

They want it everywhere.

2018-07-03 12:41:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's not enough to say that "I haven't done anything wrong, so i have nothign to fear...", knowing you are under constant surveillance can heavily influence behaviour of people who haven't done anything wrong.

2018-07-03 12:43:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

All that's required to do facial recognition is a photo.

2018-07-03 12:44:24 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm not sure that's true any more

2018-07-03 12:44:38 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Citation required

2018-07-03 12:44:54 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

^ thats probably true

2018-07-03 12:45:14 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

but that doesn't justify mass surveillance.

2018-07-03 12:49:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The company my mate works for, the system they deploy has >98% accuracy.

2018-07-03 12:49:49 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

with 1 photo as a source

2018-07-03 12:50:14 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Granted, people have been matching faces for thousands of years, and are hard wired to do it...

2018-07-03 12:50:22 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

A significant portion of the brain is dedicated to it

2018-07-03 12:50:37 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That doesn't make the risks of biometric tracking any less concerning

2018-07-03 12:52:42 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Why would the government keeping your data discourage identity theft?

2018-07-03 12:53:22 UTC [Subverse #general]  

sup

2018-07-03 12:53:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The government demanding?

2018-07-03 12:55:38 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Who's 'Omega', and why are you Killing him?

2018-07-03 12:57:05 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

When a govvernment entity verifys you... What do they ask for?

2018-07-03 12:57:11 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Your name, Your Address, Your birthday

2018-07-03 12:57:18 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Once they have that info... they have ALL of your metadata

2018-07-03 12:57:30 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Those elements are trivial to find

2018-07-03 13:00:23 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

There is a balance to be struck, for sure..

2018-07-03 13:00:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

But i don't think giving the government access to ALL metadata is a balance.

2018-07-03 13:00:57 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The balance isn't reasonable. Not any more

2018-07-03 13:01:19 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Mostly because the vast majority of people don't understand just how much data is being collected on them

2018-07-03 13:01:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

If they actually understood the scope of the machine at work, they would be horrified.

2018-07-03 13:04:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I didn't say they shouldn't have "some" data.. I just think they currently have too much.. And we certainly shouldn't be volunteering more.

2018-07-03 13:05:23 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The government doesn't need more metadata to determine that.

2018-07-03 13:05:35 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Your income statement is enough to calculate that.

2018-07-03 13:06:25 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Nerd creds confirmed

2018-07-03 13:06:27 UTC [Subverse #general]  

πŸ˜›

2018-07-03 13:06:52 UTC [Subverse #debate]  

`Is it paranoia if they really are out to get you?`

2018-07-03 13:07:16 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm not necessarily in favour of that sort of welfare

2018-07-03 13:07:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

i support a safety net

2018-07-03 13:07:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

There is the debate over security vs freedom... I don;t necessarily agree that its a zero sum game

2018-07-03 13:09:02 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

@Arch-Fiend that's not true any more.. Ive watched facial recognition systems track 30 people across an open square, and identify each of the people in the scene in real time, and the face doesn't even need to be facing the camera.

2018-07-03 13:09:08 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

the tech is both amazing, and terrifying

2018-07-03 13:10:09 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

both

2018-07-03 13:10:33 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That's partially true

2018-07-03 13:10:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

your fingerprint isn't stored on your phone

2018-07-03 13:10:46 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The hash of your fingerprint is..

2018-07-03 13:10:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's non-reversible.

2018-07-03 13:11:16 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yes, you do.

2018-07-03 13:11:33 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I wonder what he other one is...

2018-07-03 13:12:25 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

It's a fundamental part of cryptography

2018-07-03 13:12:28 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Non-reversibility

2018-07-03 13:12:42 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

You can generate the hash from the fingerprint, but you cant generate the fingerprint fromt he hash

2018-07-03 13:13:08 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Oh neither do i. Fortunately the math behind it doesn't lie

2018-07-03 13:13:23 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

That what makes cryptology such an important asset to protect

2018-07-03 13:14:30 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm certainly no expert in the math.. thats for sure.

2018-07-03 13:14:43 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Lack of trust?

2018-07-03 13:14:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Have you considered a career in Cybersecurity?

2018-07-03 13:14:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

πŸ˜ƒ

2018-07-03 13:15:10 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Ah

2018-07-03 13:15:11 UTC [Subverse #general]  

cool

2018-07-03 13:15:14 UTC [Subverse #general]  

ditching the old one then

2018-07-03 13:16:20 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Yep.. Thats my point

2018-07-03 13:16:32 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The tech can so easily be used nefariously

2018-07-03 13:17:17 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Governments gotta government...

2018-07-03 13:18:41 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

They managed to solve crimes before mass surveillance...

2018-07-03 13:18:52 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

mass surveillance just makes it industrial.

2018-07-03 13:19:34 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

If it's better for 100 guilty people to go free less 1 innocent go to jail... Surely the same should apply to privacy?

2018-07-03 13:19:55 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

^ the evidence suggests that isnt the case

2018-07-03 13:20:05 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

most murders are crimes of passion, not premeditated.

2018-07-03 13:20:31 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

True; mass murders are generally premeditated...

2018-07-03 13:20:42 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

but usually, they want noteriety.. they are looking for the fame..

2018-07-03 13:20:45 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

(infamy)

2018-07-03 13:22:16 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those two terms mutually exclusive?

2018-07-03 13:22:39 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Fear sells papers, so to speak.

2018-07-03 13:22:44 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Fear clicks links.

2018-07-03 13:22:51 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Sex sells things better.

2018-07-03 13:24:19 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I see.. It'd work if everyone in the group new and empathised with everyone else in the group. That wouldn't scale.

2018-07-03 13:27:09 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Orwell ~might~ would disagree with that.,

2018-07-03 13:27:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

I am all for the automation of labour.

2018-07-03 13:28:17 UTC [Subverse #general]  

Doesn't sound like they have a plan for pulling that off, though...

2018-07-03 13:28:53 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

The moment catching a murderer requires the impinging of civil liberties, including privacy, its a bridge too far.

2018-07-03 13:29:08 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

There are compromises to make, but we shoudl always err on the side of privacy

2018-07-03 13:31:29 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

I'm actively trying to avoid those. I'm rational enough to know there is legitimate call for some metadata retention.. And noone is really saying that tracking down a murderer can't be done with metadata... But My point remains is the bias should be toward the protection of liberty and privacy. not the increased power of the states surveillance machine.

2018-07-03 13:31:59 UTC [Subverse #general]  

That may not be off the cards for them, i would hazard a guess..

2018-07-04 12:31:57 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Could you imagine if the genders were reversed in that article?

2018-07-07 11:46:21 UTC [Subverse #newsroom]  

Not sure that makes it better..

2019-12-16 04:12:54 UTC [Athens #other_politics]  

Well they're never going to admit to the successful ones, are they?

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