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@halfthink look at history, there have been sooo much better societies in the past
There will always be war, always be rape, there will always be fucked shit
ours is even more refined than those
The dark ages were borderline ancapistan.
Sin will exist to the end of time, but we can drastically improve things for european peoples. We have a higher order disposition to the others, so we can create more or less fairly beautiful and orderly societies.
Ireland was stateless for 2000 years and it worked great.
Ill agree to your statement about improving things. But what your setting up is doomed to fail
Your assuming perfection
your cynicism is born of living in a nightmarish evil society, which was created by classical liberal ideals
don't worry mate, we're gonna make it, everything will improve
So now im a cynical.
Its not that your ideas are flawed, im just pessimistic
well you seem very pessimistic about hopes of improving
I have faith things can only be better. Humans are like that. But they need to make mistakes
we have made mistakes, for like 300 years now with this shithole they call "land of the free"
States create social degeneracy. It's in there interests to do so. What you blame on capitalism has nothing to do with capitalism.
Were nothing but mistakes. For 60000 years
wrong, we are destined to participate in theosis, uplifted by God to morally perfect ourselves
don't lose hope
@halfthink "it's not real capitalism" said the utilitarian materialist capitalist, "it's not reaaal communism" said the hegelian materialist communist
@Vril-Gesellschaft it's a mixed economy and everything you complain about can be directly attributed to state interference. Anarchy breeds social conservatism.
it depends on the kind of state dude
It doesn't.
People are going to change. You cant keep them from changing or making mistakes. You can punish them tho
policy is created depending on the type of moral personality which creates it, this is why I stress that we need a proper nobility and leader forming policy
State of emergency announcement today
and we need to create said nobility now before this shithole evil society collapses
>38 billion for Israel
>can't even spare 5 for a wall
Build the iron curtain, bruh.
legal immigration is a bigger problem
but the wall and cracking down on illegals will buy us some more time
Thatโs not an argument against the wall, saying there are other problems
The fed will be what causes the collapse of society before immigrants do.
Italy is trying to rid themselves of their fed
I'm not against the wall. I just think that legal immigration is what is causing American white displacement more.
Italy is unfortunately couped rn by zionist interests. As "based" as Salvini appears, his ties to Israel are too close to assume he is anything other than a puppet in much the same way American politicians are.
You sound like you should be on /pol
pol is entry level dude, I am ns
the redpill process completed = me
Blue pilled as fuck.
Did you ban this guy?, i just got info, he got some information on ppl here and is going to dox them to antifa
Oh no
<:commie:463087263153258506>
Consequences will never be the same
What?
Iono lol
If he was joking, hes autistic, if hes serious, hes autistic
Definitely a commie.
What's this about doxxing? @Autistic Anime Enthusiast
If i had to guess, maybe ean was bait to get ppl to agree with natsoc ideas and the autistic guy was in on it to prove there are nazis in tims discord?
Or he doesnt like ean and wants us to ban him. Either way its dumb
He could try to substantiate his claim so he doesnt look like an autistic larper
What in autism is going on here?
Au**tim**ism
Sacrifice is the surrender of that which you value in favor of that which you donโt. . . . It is not a sacrifice to renounce the unwanted. It is not a sacrifice to give your life to others, if death is your personal desire. To achieve the virtue of sacrifice, you must want to live, you must love it, you must burn with passion for this earth and for all the splendor it can give youโyou must feel the twist of every knife as it slashes your desires away from your reach and drains your love out of your body. It is not mere death that the morality of sacrifice holds out to you as an ideal, but death by slow torture.
Wait wut
I mean you sacrifice the most to the things you want the most. Like family and children. Thats how it should be, not 2 randos.
"MAGA Country" is trending now
Chicago PD too
Smollett and Jussie is too
he's navy seals discord autist
Who thinks that China is going to get physical once we retaliate against spyware and wiretapping?
Not me unless you can give a compelling reason, plan and target
Politics FFA? Why not have a TDM?
Because class consciousness is a spook.
*bellum omnium contra omnes*
politics battle royale ill tell you
Politics battle royale sounds like a great name for the 2020 elections
I'm so excited and happy that Trump has proven he has the balls to declare the national emergency we need to build the wall
Thank you daddy trump
Now if we could only extend the wall to california
XD
Well, we all have to make compromises
How does this emergency declaration affect what's in the funding bll?
Declaring a national emergency gives the President the ability to use military funding for whatever purposes he deems fit.
So he will use the military to build the wall, essentially.
I hope so.
I mean, he's clearly thought plenty about it. When he announced the move, he stated that he was fully aware it would be contested in many left-leaning district courts around the country
So he'll hopefully be prepared for whatever happens.
I wonder if he was fully aware that his people negotiating the funding bill with Congress would stab him in the back.
I'd bet he knew going into office that even establishment Republicans wouldn't want to back him because they're all spineless fucks
He's fully aware he's a loner through most of this. Which is one of the reasons I have all the more respect for the man.
His mission as POTUS is nearly impossible for one man.
But he's doing all he can. He's done more than *most* presidents. I won't say all, some historical Presidents have probably done more, but he's certainly done a hell of a lot, and remained firm through it all without caving to the pressure.
If im understanding correctly, he also got funding from the bill for the wall and he can go up to 8 billion via emergency
Lmao this bitch
Lmao this bitch
is she the one married to her brother>
is she?
the brother thing
yes
thats where i got it from
thanks
well the thing is that the man she married might be her brother
the man was in a picture with a man she called Father
and supposedly he called him Father too
the only way to know for sure is to do DNA test
to be fair, could be step brother.
if it was her brother, biological one, i don't think that marriage is valid and might actually be criminal in her state
I still don't understand why @Timcast thinks why Democratic establishment needs to be replaced with people like AOC, when he still goes to support policies that Crowley would likely have supported. It's funny.
Also, while 3 billion tax break is not automatically lost money (since losing Amazon HQ may cause 10 billion in lost revenue), it's still unjust favoritism for **ONE** company which is not given to other companies.
Even as center-right / centrist libertarian type, I cannot support corporate favoritism even if it produces result. It's corrupt as fuck.
There is an argument to be made that corruption does produce wealth, but if so, why not support the *establishment*? They are **masters** in corruption, thus the best ones to uphold it!
Seems like Tim wants to have the cake and eat it too... which is typical leftist.
Why can't we make a system that results in corruption costing more than paying taxes?
@halfthink Lies. The libertarian left in reality don't denounce the commies.
"Stalin was right wing"
Yeah. **Exactly** that nonsense. They blame any attempts at communism to be rightwing, and continue to support "anarcho"commies.
As i understand it the bonuses granted to amazon via the tax plan are rewards for keeping the money inside of the US as opposed to sending it overseas.
Like Tim has admitted: left support diversity of tactics. They can have a peaceful protest but they don't separate themselves from "separate" black block tactics.
It's always the same: they never kick out Antifa types from their demonstrations, but they like to cry when they get water cannon from the police.
The same plan has penalty sections for taking money out of the country, apple and microsoft each got hit with 8-13 billion in penalties.
To black people here
In the US
Why would it be?
I don't know. People are like
"This is so ugly. We should change it"
I don't think blacks care, but niggers might.
<:TimThink:482277772497125378>
There's a difference between blacks and niggers, and I want to remind of it as often as possible.
@halfthink Since you are an ancap retard, comment on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS1jsgyrEXk
Address the problem instead of responding with stock imagery.
If you respond with stock imagery, you admit everything correct, and just claim that the alternative is worse (without giving specific examples).
That's just forfeit.
He's comparing an extremely unlikely worst case scenario against an unrealistic ideal that has never existed. Like using a lack of "perfect competition" as a justification for government intervention. Does he think poor and rich communities have equal quality protection of property rights now?
I'm pretty sure such "extremely unlikely" scenario already exists in Chicago and Detroit. Also, pointing to unequal protection in current system to make things even worse is rather a splendid cop-out.
Cicago and Detroit are the opposite of an argument against ancapistan.
I'd also like to call out the hypocrisy of calling non-anarchism for demanding perfection, when the ancap side demands 0% taxes or it's theft and tyranny.
Imagine the hypocrisy of demanding 0% taxation, or everything is statism and totalitarian socialism...
Meanwhile, in that uncomfortable reality the non-ancaps don't actually demand perfection (like you claim they do). They just want to avoid a total disaster.
It's the monopoly that is the problem, not how much the government charges for its "product".
...meanwhile you argue against anti-monopoly measure. Irony.
This is why ancaps are a joke.
Sure, and free trade agreements are about free trade.
I think I'll rest my case since you haven't addressed any of the points presented, only quoted go-to arguments, which only ancaps and communists have at hand to give **regardless** of the topic at hand.
You are autistic ultimates, logical absolutes of you own positions.
Neither of you accept any reality check. Both of you say: true X has never been tried.
Ireland was basically ancap for 2000 years.
The "dark ages" were a fairly close approximation too.
So, you are actually using the Dark Age feudalism as "positive" example of anarchocapitalism. **IMAGINE MY SHOCK!**
Seriously, fuck you. Even communists have better ethics than you.
They are naive and deluded but they are not sociopaths.
Why am I suspicious that you are actually a communist making the *worst* imaginable arguments for anarchocapitalism?
<:NPC:500042527231967262>
*>Why am I suspicious that you are actually a communist making the worst imaginable arguments for anarchocapitalism?*
David Friedman and Brian Caplan.
Go wank in a sock, commie. You don't fool me.
At least you admit being a commie plant.
I do not.
Which is the commie plant in this one?
https://youtu.be/wHIm2NRvcAQ
Just proves my point...
14 and -14 is top left?
Err... I think you missed the joke.
The tulip is the commie plant
Who says there can't be two?
Top left would be -10 and 10. The joke is that halfthink is 14.88 and -14.88, i.e **Fourteen Words, HEIL HITLER**. (8th alphabet is H, hence HH is Heil Hitler.)
I know I'm ruining the joke.
"A joke is like a frog, if you have to dissect it, you kill it."
I don't mind killing it...
Hitler did nothing wrong, ex ante.
Satan was black. According to Prophet Mohammed:
https://youtu.be/1Qwe0b9IsV4
https://youtu.be/jIYBod0ge3Y
Has this been shared here before? I think this is relevant to the ongoing effort to comprehend the truth of modern politics.
McNuke ftw
Even without reading Qu'ran, I could have guessed. Because Muhammad was (according to the scripture) so white he was self-luminous (read: white as fuck).
Of course Shaytan would be a nigger.
More information on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxOM4GrqElw
hong kong > norway
low taxes and univeral healthcare
@Yang Gang Bang coperwaithe really turned it around.
@dostoevskysghost what
@Yang Gang Bang I was talking about Hong Kong
what's/who's coperwaithe?
oh
Financial Secretary of Hong Kong from 1961 to 1971
read this wikipedia article, I like this guy
Uhhh I don't read wikipedia articles anymore
Marc Dice has a nice video about Wikipedia and their Far Left bias
Wikipedia is fine on some things.
Just not on current politics.
It's also a good starting point to get a view of the landscape - kind of alike a link repository. I want to find a different encyclopedia, though.
Tenessee, go, go go.
we need more of his kind....
Will Trump win in 2020 or Kanye?
Neither. It's gonna be The Rock.
Naa
jair will come to the US
Architect of Prosperity: Sir John Cowperthwaite and the Making of Hong Kong
@Yang Gang Bang
It's a good book if you are really interested.
I'll look into it
Why doesnโt Tim mention the Jussie and Kamala Harris connection, and the lynching bill she just passed. He speculates that Jussieโs motivations for concealing information.
Or how much of an activist that Jussie is
Heโs basically a Crisis Actor
Yep, absolutely.
hm, somehow I feel that the relationship between the US and Isreal might be quite bad right now (or at least the President)...
And there might be something coming towards Isreal, they overplayed their hand...
@Rusty I don't know anything about that. Have any links or anything
Who is that Thicc man?
Tim Pool is a dunce on economics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbdT0X8sL0
Tax evasion is theft, comrade.
```"There is simply no other choice than this: either to abstain from interference in the free play of the market, or to delegate the entire management of production and distribution to the government. Either capitalism or socialism: there exists no middle way."
-Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism.```
Goverment is neccesary for order
Order is neccesary for value
Even if goverments werent regulating a thing, a large force that controls most of the desired resource would establish a form of goverment and regulation
Order is more important than value
Tell me why value should come first, or rather why its more important
What do you mean?
Well if your an an cap im making the assumption that value is everything, and that value will establish order
Am i incorrect?
I don't know what you even mean by that.
Like if you remove goverment completly and let the market run wild, eventually there will be a semblace of order the market establishes right? Basically once everyone has a job
Tim Pool being a dunce on eminent domain as well: https://youtu.be/0VFtbR1fmgg?t=507
Thinking that when facing an invasion, you could eminent domain to build a wall. Like you can build a wall **WHILE BEING ATTACKED?**
(Also, isn't USA already invaded by illegal aliens? Meaning condition is already fulfilled.)
His second example isn't just dumb (like the first one) but outright shows how dangerous Tim's ideas are.
He literally talks about eminent domain being justified if government was to seize **ALL MEANS OF PRODUCTION** (i.e establish communism).
So eminent domain is OK when communism. Yeah.
Havent watched the vid yet so i cant comment
@My Preferred Pronoun Is Sama you don't need an organisation that maintains a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence to have a peaceful and orderly society.
Somalia.
Somalia is a good example.
Yeah, a good example indeed.
Alright ima look into somalia and get back to you then
Somalia is a hellhole. Somalis were the primary source of economic leeches to arrive to Finland prior to war refugees from Iraq, then Maroccan "Syrians" during recent years.
```"It is beyond human power to make a Negro white."
-Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism.```
Somalia has been a hellhole even before war in Iraq. If it's now growing faster than others, it's because it's national produce was close to absolute zero for a great long time, with warlords implementing anarchocapitalism on the populace.
Ok ima have to look into it alot more than the article.
Since even the developing countries are leeching from first world achievments and have positive growth
But in the scenario of developing countries, centealization has been bad. I just think order becomes harder to maintain as countries become larger. But. Yea ima look into it
Somalis are receiving tons of globalist welfare. Money, food, building projects. (Not that it helps. Arguably it hurts the local markets.)
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