+giveme consent

!agree

But isnt that at heart, most people lean left? By normalcy, we just revert back 2 what? The 90s? And do this all over again?

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I mean, i remember when health care was a thing, the the republicans also had the same plan going on

There was a video prager u made todat that i strongly disagreed with

Saying that it didnt matter that we disagree with the left wince we want the same "goals"

But the way you try to do something changes everything

Well mitt was looking alot like a dem to me

Like alot of little things rewrite laws and make a huge difference later

So yea of course everyone wants no1 to be hungry, for planet to be clean etc

But thats what supposed to separate people in politics, how u got about it. And yea zolris beat me 2 it

But ot changes the result hard

As a counter to that

Having multiple parties traps ideologies

Kinda like in europe where a party that has like 25-30% overall votes just controls everything, and makes the echo chamber anyway

Well wait and see i suppose

I fear the right is only united because of trump

Like the left. Its the after part that worries me.

Yea but what happens when trump is gone? The neo cons take back over?

Thanks to trump yea

Graham has grown stones all of a sudden

The republican party also has its own slew of problems

Its why the right was so vulnerable to the left to begin with

And it goes back around to things being "normal"

Because what normal was also a problem.

Under "normal" way more problems were caused than things fixed

And people on both sides can agree to that

I hope not

Thats my fear exactly

I mean i welcome moderate democrats

Yea hopefully

Im just worried the democrats coming in will make republicans lean more left as politicians

And im just 2 far 2 the right i guess

Lol hi @Undead Mockingbird. Nice to see u here2

Well maybe history just repeats itself because we cant make something new. We as humans can only work with what were given, and we are limited. We are bound to make the same mistakes.

I like the rhyme thing. Im using that

Ppl are softer now. Its easy to mold people

The problem lies in peoples lack of conviction.

Its like people dont want to argue the facts, its easier to have the screen tell then

Just things in general. Including science.

Depends on how relevant it is

Since its a sign of culture

And people really want him gone for a reason

Christmas used to be important :(

But see, people dont even value much anymore

So whats relecant doesnt matter

They value their own comfort

Thats about where a peraons relevancy stops at

I agree with you people only argue and whats important to them, like 2 nerds arguing star wars vs star trek

But if neither cared, its easy to change their mind

Or fill with misinformation

Id say stick to your value. Yea its the echo chamber, but there is also a problem when you dont hold values

Coherence is important

Thats why opinions matter, they make patterns even in non democracies

Well everything can be politics though

I dont mean to complicate things

Like i get your trying to narrow it down

Yep. Which is why having values

Matters

And in a democracy where people can be told what to think and feel

Are easily manipulated

Can you censor a womans nipples with a mans nipples?

Im asking the real question

So we agree then @NativeInterface

A tool is no good without the will to use it

But values lead to learning to facts

So having the opinion needs to come first

I mean a person with no opinion or values can be told anything

Well it can be a fact you feel that way

Lol

Since emotions are perceptions

They matter

Its telling you something

My feelings just dont care about your feelings

Facts can be used to lie

But i mean even then

There is still context

In war context matters

And so feelings are suddenly important

I mean thats an interesting topic

Cause thats feelings right there

So feelings do matter

Not all important things are settled by facts

We going in deep bois

Why is murder immoral?

Context = feelings

Or perception of the situation

But thats not facts

If one definitoon contradicts another

Only one can be true

Thats ur feelings talking @Paradox

Several people are typing

So therefore feelings matter

So if someone looks at a child a funny way, we can murder them right?

Im fine with that @Phioux

Then murder is wrong is not a fact but this statement has more impact on peoples lives do than some facts

Only fools speak in facts

Cause people arent informed cause they dont care