religion is everything dude, without God's law we devolve into wretches like modern America, literally there's pedo bars in nyc now where faggots watch a little kid dance

we let these liberal fucks ruin our civilization and turn it into hell, religion would have prevented this

The state encouraged it, yours will be no better.

Humans are humans. Weve always been degenerates. Dont make them out to be greater than they really are

@halfthink look at history, there have been sooo much better societies in the past

There will always be war, always be rape, there will always be fucked shit

ours is even more refined than those

The dark ages were borderline ancapistan.

Sin will exist to the end of time, but we can drastically improve things for european peoples. We have a higher order disposition to the others, so we can create more or less fairly beautiful and orderly societies.

Ireland was stateless for 2000 years and it worked great.

Ill agree to your statement about improving things. But what your setting up is doomed to fail

Your assuming perfection

your cynicism is born of living in a nightmarish evil society, which was created by classical liberal ideals

don't worry mate, we're gonna make it, everything will improve

So now im a cynical.

Its not that your ideas are flawed, im just pessimistic

well you seem very pessimistic about hopes of improving

I have faith things can only be better. Humans are like that. But they need to make mistakes

we have made mistakes, for like 300 years now with this shithole they call "land of the free"

States create social degeneracy. It's in there interests to do so. What you blame on capitalism has nothing to do with capitalism.

Were nothing but mistakes. For 60000 years

wrong, we are destined to participate in theosis, uplifted by God to morally perfect ourselves

don't lose hope

@halfthink "it's not real capitalism" said the utilitarian materialist capitalist, "it's not reaaal communism" said the hegelian materialist communist

@Vril-Gesellschaft it's a mixed economy and everything you complain about can be directly attributed to state interference. Anarchy breeds social conservatism.

it depends on the kind of state dude

It doesn't.

People are going to change. You cant keep them from changing or making mistakes. You can punish them tho

policy is created depending on the type of moral personality which creates it, this is why I stress that we need a proper nobility and leader forming policy

State of emergency announcement today

and we need to create said nobility now before this shithole evil society collapses

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shutdown/trump-to-sign-border-bill-declare-emergency-mcconnell-idUSKCN1Q30KU

>38 billion for Israel
>can't even spare 5 for a wall

Build the iron curtain, bruh.

legal immigration is a bigger problem

but the wall and cracking down on illegals will buy us some more time

That’s not an argument against the wall, saying there are other problems

The fed will be what causes the collapse of society before immigrants do.

Italy is trying to rid themselves of their fed

I'm not against the wall. I just think that legal immigration is what is causing American white displacement more.

Italy is unfortunately couped rn by zionist interests. As "based" as Salvini appears, his ties to Israel are too close to assume he is anything other than a puppet in much the same way American politicians are.