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but nazis are white identarians
Hm
or something like that (difficult word)
Aryan supremacists
yeah so they were far left
Fair enough... so where's the far right?
Corporate autocracy?
there wasnt a far right ideology tried yet ๐ if Hitler was left
Corporatism is the PC word for fascism.
So mussolini maybe?
He was "fascist" IIRC
Far right is ancap. Centrist would be ayn rand and hayek n shit.
what is far right ideology? would like to know cus i am getting lost in this thing
More later. Break's over
Rothbard and Hoppe are far right.
:(
Individualist anarchism is far right.
An advocate of a private law society is far right.
so basicly no govermenr and survival of the strongest?
like everyone is on their own
Not no government, just not monopoly on government.
Privatize everything.
soo if i got it right there would be a lot of governments in a country?
or dafuq xD cus rigth now there is monopoly on government in every country cus it is only one government
Ron Paul is pretty much far right.
okay so no government at all I think that is more understandable to have a one world as a place to live if all governments fall than having one world congress/government which would be corupt from inside out
For clarity, the definition of "state" that ancaps mean is:
*>A state is a compulsory political organization with a centralized government that maintains a monopoly on the legitimate use of force within a certain geographical territory.*
(From wikipedia)
soo state is even a local organized group with a leader and set of rules?
in a poor man reasoning
https://mises.org/wire/feudalism-system-private-law
*>Critics of anarcho-capitalism often wrongly assume that the absence of a state would mean the absence of civil government, but serious proponents of anarchism have never claimed that civil government can or should disappear. Opponents of the state merely assert that a civil government that relies on a monopoly on coercion is illegitimate. This is of course different from asserting that all types of civil government are illegitimate.*
ooooooh so we would have kings and queens in a far right world
Nah, monarchy is more like centre right.
feudalism isnt kingship?
Feudalism is one of the closest approximations in history, and also nothing like what popular culture tends to portrait it as.
Feudalism is more like landlords than kings.
yeah yeah yeah like that
but arent kings land lords too ? but property is passed on by heritage and not power ?
Sort of, but kings can tax, which is very different to rent.
hmmm
interesting ๐
Monarchy, for all its faults would still be a step in the right direction from democracy.
living in a far right world might be better then far left
If I must be a slave, I would rather be privately owned than publicly owned.
yeah cus when privately only one person do you harm and publicaly everyone does everyone harm
The only solution to the poaching of elaphants that has worked so far has been to privatize them.
i wonder if thanks to far left culture war outreage we will go back in time and the technology will stagnate
There is no incentive to invest in human capital in democracy. It is the tragedy of the commons applied to human life.
yeah becouse in far left you just dont want to do anything
and it is best for you if you cant do anything
cus you will work for 0 work
or something
A depressing amount of people see getting on a disability pension as the highest possible goal to aim for.
https://youtu.be/7FLefPaXQ8E
damn
thats so bad
we are going downhill
People's actions tend to maximize output divided by input, rather output minus input.
what thas that equal to ?
output/input=???
output - input = ???
sorry i do not understand what you meant by that ๐ฆ
He means people want to be efficient and profitable, not merely profitable
The ratio between effort and profit is more important than total profit.
And therefore, achieving any profit, no matter how meager, for zero effort, is the ultimate goal
Muh post scarcity.
Gimme the disability check while I rot away on the sofa; that's heaven
A dole check vs a full time job for only a little bit more money is not a hard choice.
oh รค
oh now i understand ๐
yeah thats true
who wouldn't want free money
thats why there are illegal printed money and ilegal activities and so on
now they dont need to even rob people or create fake money they will just be dasabled and will live happy ever after
privatizing everything is literally a corporate state, as hierarchies will inevitably form and corporations will do their best to quash competition.
but how do you have competition if everyone is incopetent ?
they're competing to see who is the worst
competition can work the other way too, breh.
u right about that ๐
like who can be more incopetent xD
who will find more ways to milk the state of money ๐
Tournament rules always ensure a winner without ensuring competence.
btw in my country we have people like that who milk the state and dont do nothing other then creating more population that will continue what they are doing ... taking money from state
but it ensures competition
it is the crazy emotional teachers who started giving prizes to everyone ...
in RL you lose when you are not first because he will be first unless he trips or drops dead but unless you do something about it there is no way to know when it will happend and you take first place and the same will await you
it is funny ๐
i saw that video
>Bruh, but _both sides_
Pocahontas wasn't silenced by a violent mob, though.
I never said she was. I simply point out that "conservatives shut down a liberal speaker" as the question stated.
There was no mention of "violent mobs" in the question. And however force is used, whether it be by a "mob" or some other mechanism available to a majority in an instance, it's still silencing. If she'd continued speaking, Dr Warren would have been invited by the Sergeant at Arms to return to her desk. Force, however respectable, was being applied to silence a liberal speaker saying something that conservatives did not like. I'd like my $100 to be contributed to Star Wars Theory so that we can get closer to a second episode of their Vader story arc. ๐
The world needs more decent Star Wars, not the stuff Disney is shoveling ๐
Amen
@DrYuriMom mate, she was stopped from a debate
what is even your point here?
That conservatives shut down a liberal speaker, exactly as stated in the question you linked
Free Speech doesn't mean you can speak everywhere
the question was _on collegue campus_
you didn't even remain on topic
she wasn't in any event. She wasn't silenced
She was free to go to any event and say whatever she wanted there
I'll admit I was only responding to the question posed in the link thumbnail
Not being given air time in a debate isn't "silencing"
Not being given a stage in a debate isn't "silencing"?
if you go to an event and you decide to scream from your seat, you will be "silenced" too
I'm very absolutist when it comes to free speech, but you are being too blind on nuances
Honestly, we're likely on the same page in that I detest the silencing of debate on college campuses. I just lived through my own experience where threat to safety absolutely did silence liberal speakers on college campuses when I went to college.
Go back to the civil rights era and people ended up in hospitals for speaking out on college campuses
I detested it in the 60's, I detested it in the 80's/90's, and I detest it now.
How's that for silencing on a college campus?
there shouldnt be silencing on campuses
or any schools
Agreed
the moment it is uniformaly agreed on whole campus and you have a bubble with one idea then something is wrong
You are kinda missing the point of the question if you have to use examples from 50 years ago
the point was not to discuss history
Maybe that's because my experience as a college student is 30 years old :p
My personal experience is my reality
it's like the slavery talk, when someone says reps wanted to end slavery and people try to dig for examples of reps that owned slaves. It's besides the point
Fair, I guess
So my life experience is beside the point ๐ฟ
But I highly doubt that people on the right wouldn't support you if you were protesting for free speech for people on the left
I can't say as I am now close to 50 years old and haven't exercised campus free speech in a rather long time. I just know that silencing has a long, terrible history. Historically it has been the right who has wielded the club. Now it may well be the left (although that may not be the case on a religious campus). Just because those doing the silencing may have changed, doesn't make it any less wrong.
I agree with Tim that college is where kids (should) go to be exposed to a multitude of ideas. If that is not happening, the system is broken and needs to be reexamined. It saddens me to hear Tim repeat his derision for college attandance. I loved it and I've worked my ass off for 25 years to make sure my kids can go without any debt.
Silencing also has a long, wonderful history.
Many a poor soul has had poisonous and harmful ideas and lies destroyed long before it could reach them.
TBF, I can soooorta see the point?
on the other hand, I'm unsure if that classes as defamation
I'm beginning to think we need to the Social Democrats the door and recover the Liberal Democrat party from the left ยฌ.ยฌ
show the Social Democrats, even
at this point, it'd be easier to just make a 4 party system
liberal and autocratic, and 1 for each side
so where does UKIP go? (off, somewhere .. to retire in spain ?)
not sure honestly...
or we just adopt a PR voting system and get rid of FPTP
Or burn down the party systems entirely?
good luck with that
human politics is in some ways, very collectivist ๐ collectively together groups of MPs can do more to achieve goals than individually
@DrYuriMom college should be something you go to to improve yourself, not to be a viable member of the work force. Even professions that really should require a degree, like doctors, shouldn't be straight tracked from high school. You should have working experience in the related field. And i mean working for a salary, not just for credits as part of a college program. Unfortunately we stopped treating college as a place of learn and more like the new GED. a requirement to enter the work force at almost every level. On top of that, we looked down up jobs that didn't require education as bad.
When you make a society that views farmers as bad, don't be surprised when you run out of farmers.
College today is not the college of the past
its extended high school and i thought the last few years of high school was a waste while in high school.
I have yet to see how it wasn't.
My college degree was even a waste even though i got a job in the industry because i don't feel it was necessary.
Do we need degrees in things like graphics design? What happened to assistants who trained under masters?
we replaced the masters with bureaucracy which just means anyone can pay enough money and become "qualified"
there is no human who assigns the quality of the student, just faceless organizations which spit out a student with cert that isn't even worth the paper its written on.
*doesnt want someone 'working in the field' to get 'life experience' and working for a wage BEFORE they goto med school to be his GP
a lot of companies (even friggin google) are looking for to train people before they go off and get made useless by college
if not, setting up offices abroad where they can sift through the useless millennials
thats a problem over here, getting your foot in the door for a job .. because so many ask for degrees
this is recent, for a long while, at least after 2008, even entry level jobs required either 5 years experience or a college degree. @สooNสooN
it depends what the degree is in
it got pretty bad at one point, couple of years ago marks and spencers (dept. store come supermarket, upmarket) wanted degrees for people applying for cashier jobs
given that the economy has finally picked back up, i guess companies are running out of people willing to take entry level positions with 5-10 years experience
degrees for cashiers?
wtf
clearly they were looking for people who could progress, but .. for cashier position???
'cause you need to know how to write 1000s of words in an essay to work a till
then you get twonks like my boss who only hires experienced people, .. last hire, doesnt have the degree in IT security he claimed he does. and he knows noooothing
my guess is that they wanted an easy way to narrow the selection
well, that and picking people who could progress through job roles as well would be my guess
really?
surely if you wanted a manager, you'd just advertise for managers
like
dude
c'mon
ah, noooo not always
company I work for hires people at store level, with the intention of picking people who seem to have the mindset to progress their careers
so you may not need an influx of managers now, but maybe in a year or two, you know you're opening 50/60 stores a year ...
kind of like gold to green?
green to gold*
Remember a time when you entired at the bottom and worked your way up? i don't because when i entered the work force, you got a few years experience then jumped ship in order to get a higher rank because you were not likely to gain more than 1 promotion. and 2 years was about the max you'd progress in that company.
we have a few people at the office who started at store level
I'd say about a third, and half of that third are management positions
recession fucked things up and companies got away with a lot of bullshit to save money. not that i blame them given the economy at the time.
so yeah, I know from experience some HR strategies do think out what some of the applicant will be doing in 3/5 years time frame
but UK issue I think is we were just turning out too many people with bachelor degrees
most of those degrees were useless tho
and if they weren't generally useless, they'd train too many people, making those degrees useless
some years back there were hundreds too many physiotherapy graduates
not entirely useless but yes, not what the nationneeded
another year there were hundreds too many forensics specialists
I started work with a B.eng(hon) in electronic engineering and comp sci, person that was hired say day as me, had a degree in the history of art in science
for an IT role
<:TimThink:482277772497125378>
how did that one square?
not for long, he was gone within 8 months, didnt like helpdesk and couldnt complete the project work he was given. went on to become a sales person for a cable company
`your disertation was fantastic, maintain and fix my servers`
eh, sod off, that was my job ๐
"Fix the backup system" "what backup system?" "What? the one our director put in 3 years ago" "Right ... as I said, what backup system? its just a tape drive with a tape in it, there's no software, no schedule, and the tape has glued itself to the tape head it hasnt been used/ removed in 3 years" "oh shi...."
"no worries, dont know how to use chayenne arcserve but I'll give it a shot" .. at the same time said history of art in science student is explaining to the managing director to leave the protective tape on laptop screen on to help "protect the colour balance"
was he just trolling on the last one?
No.
oh
oooooooh
oh no
no no no
I had to explain that particular banana skin to the MD 6 months later ... without sounding like a knob and dobbing the idiot in it
then I found out why there was tape on the laptop heat sink exhaust slots .. to stop the data from falling out when it was vertical in the bag. quick fix, hurried explanation then out the door to run to the server room so I could die laughing
did you make sure that you installed adobe reader before you left?
you're not a real IT guy unless you do
๐
this was like 20 years ago when I started the job ๐ I dont remember the boring day to day stuff .. I remember the standouts, like payroll servers shooting 10 feet of flame at me (ok it was probably less than a foot of flame but still), oh and learning that HPUX servers didnt do hardware raid, they did software raid ... and the IT director who'd been hired partially due to his HPUX knowledge, didnt know this either when he set up the server (also a payroll server though this was much later than the flamethrower server)
*should prob shut up now, he does work for the largest (albeit multibrand) fast food company on the planet*
hpux, you poor guy
it got replaced 4 years ago .. with a windows / sql server :\
lol
hpux probably ran for 15 years without a problem
let's switch to windows ๐
pretty much, no one really knew how to maintain it properly but it was a lot more stable and faster than what replaced it
Why does Tim practice how he titles his videos like news stand tabloids ?
Habit?
He's a newsie.
A newsie?
I think the practice cheapens his brand.
I think he does a good job of having the title reflect the main point/opinion of the video
Saudi sucks
I think @Timcast really needs to put a lot more thought into his support of the Green New Deal. It just seems like a bad policy to me. Firstly, there seems to be credible evidence emerging all the time that shows that the climate change models exaggerated the extent of the problem. But mostly, I want to point out that it sounds like the most reckless thing that you could do. We already know that no matter what we do, we can only make a trivial difference to whatever climate change is coming, so why risk destroying the entire economy just to make a meaninglessly small impact to the climate? It would be so much smarter to just accept climate change and then improve our emissions slowly. We could spend money on improving infrastructure to better cope with natural disasters and minimise the potential for damage. That would generate actual outcomes. The problem with leftist policies like Obamacare and the New Green Deal is that they seem to be guided by a noble cause but the people who write these policies are clearly more concerned with being able to virtue signal about the policy after the fact, than in making decisions that would lead to the best possible outcomes.
that's fair. America isn't the big problem here. it's developing countries like China and various African Nations. And India maybe
there's still a potential boon to our economy... but trump is already in the process of mending the economy, and a green new deal could destabilize it back into a recession
for all we know
A green deal would do much worse than a recession. Hell, the original New Deal prolonged the depression
ATM, I want to see more economic recovery, a bitchslap to the silicon cartel, and border security.
gotta love major democrats like Obama and Pelosi having walls around their estates when Pelosi says walls are immoral
Yeah I think the economic recovery will speed up once the battle with China advances a bit more. The tariffs will go away (or at least be reduced significantly) and the markets will become less tense
I just don't understand Democrats for allowing their leaders to be so hypocritical. I know people accept this sort of thing all the time in office politics, but that's just people being conniving so they can get a promotion. Why would you actually want to vote for people who might destroy your way of life?
because it's all tribal at this point
ah well, if trump's still in office for a second term, we'll probably have a republican-dominated supreme court at least.
Ruth... I don't want her dead, but I seriously doubt she can handle many more years
and after trump, I'm praying for Ben Shapiro to make pres.
if only to see the look on Cortez's face
Yeah I don't wish Ruth dead either, but I think there's something strange going on there. I spoke to a nurse and she said that the media is lying about Ruth. They're trying to spin it to sound like they only removed nodules from her lungs, but there is no such operation possible. They removed a whole lobe. And the media says that they found no cancer has spread in her body. But its not actually possible to be certain about this. Considering the fact that this is her third time with cancer, I say it doesn't look so good. My theory is that she is getting very weak and wants to retire but people are aggressively pressuring her to keep working in spite of the pain and/or exhaustion
If she doesn't die from cancer, she'll die from the pressure
Ben Shapiro as president is a very interesting idea, and I think he could do great things.
Is "I wish her many happy, healthy decades of retirement." too smartass?
I admit I suspected something was off, but I didn't think they 'lied about the procedure outright
thanks for the information
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