we replaced the masters with bureaucracy which just means anyone can pay enough money and become "qualified"

there is no human who assigns the quality of the student, just faceless organizations which spit out a student with cert that isn't even worth the paper its written on.

*doesnt want someone 'working in the field' to get 'life experience' and working for a wage BEFORE they goto med school to be his GP

a lot of companies (even friggin google) are looking for to train people before they go off and get made useless by college

if not, setting up offices abroad where they can sift through the useless millennials

thats a problem over here, getting your foot in the door for a job .. because so many ask for degrees

this is recent, for a long while, at least after 2008, even entry level jobs required either 5 years experience or a college degree. @ʇooNʇooN

it depends what the degree is in

it got pretty bad at one point, couple of years ago marks and spencers (dept. store come supermarket, upmarket) wanted degrees for people applying for cashier jobs

given that the economy has finally picked back up, i guess companies are running out of people willing to take entry level positions with 5-10 years experience

degrees for cashiers?

wtf

clearly they were looking for people who could progress, but .. for cashier position???

'cause you need to know how to write 1000s of words in an essay to work a till

then you get twonks like my boss who only hires experienced people, .. last hire, doesnt have the degree in IT security he claimed he does. and he knows noooothing

my guess is that they wanted an easy way to narrow the selection

well, that and picking people who could progress through job roles as well would be my guess

really?

surely if you wanted a manager, you'd just advertise for managers

like

dude

c'mon

ah, noooo not always

company I work for hires people at store level, with the intention of picking people who seem to have the mindset to progress their careers

so you may not need an influx of managers now, but maybe in a year or two, you know you're opening 50/60 stores a year ...

kind of like gold to green?

green to gold*

Remember a time when you entired at the bottom and worked your way up? i don't because when i entered the work force, you got a few years experience then jumped ship in order to get a higher rank because you were not likely to gain more than 1 promotion. and 2 years was about the max you'd progress in that company.

we have a few people at the office who started at store level

I'd say about a third, and half of that third are management positions

recession fucked things up and companies got away with a lot of bullshit to save money. not that i blame them given the economy at the time.

so yeah, I know from experience some HR strategies do think out what some of the applicant will be doing in 3/5 years time frame

but UK issue I think is we were just turning out too many people with bachelor degrees

most of those degrees were useless tho

and if they weren't generally useless, they'd train too many people, making those degrees useless

some years back there were hundreds too many physiotherapy graduates

not entirely useless but yes, not what the nationneeded

another year there were hundreds too many forensics specialists

I started work with a B.eng(hon) in electronic engineering and comp sci, person that was hired say day as me, had a degree in the history of art in science

for an IT role

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